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Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:52 pm

OK, I know this may degenerate into a round-up-the-torches-and-pitchforks kinda thing, but really I'm just asking for advice.

Looking through my referrers today, I came across this.

Evidently, these are all the latest updates from these comics, so it's not a links page, it's a ripper. And as flattered as I am to be amongst a lot of popular comics (well, maybe not Garfield), this isn't cool, for reasons that have been much discussed. Obviously this is a kid who's a fan and wants to share his favorite comics with others and not some malicious dastardly villian trying to steal bandwith for its own sake, but it's copyright infringement in either case. I'd be OK with this page if it just had links featuring a sampled comic and they asked permission, but that's not what this is.

The person doesn't have any contact information. How do I get the person's attention to say that this isn't cool?

Post by **Kisai** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:16 pm

*fixes that sites toy wagon*

Post by **Mercury Hat** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:17 pm

yeahduff wrote: The person doesn't have any contact information. How do I get the person's attention to say that this isn't cool?

Well if this person is taking the latest comic, maybe make a comic about it stating your position? That's the only way I can think of getting his attention.

Post by **Kisai** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:23 pm

it looks like the person is pulling it directly from the server, the ip address shows up exactly twice, once pulling index.html and once pulling the comic.

War · Post by **War** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:51 pm

We got any dutch speakers? On my universities website it's possible to find out a persons e-mail through their department's site (which in this case we know already) and their username (which we also know).
Can't navigate the site though, the english version is very cut down.

Okie · Post by **Okie** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:57 pm

We got any dutch speakers?

bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:02 pm

No, I don't speak dutch, afrikaans, or anything else. Sorry.

As for the whole copyright issue, somebody just registered the domain name waterguy.com before I could! Lawsuit!!!!!!!!

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:22 pm

Don't know dutch. But I can speak like that chef from the muppets. That help at all?

Orj de borj da morj?

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:23 pm

CALLING MR. BOB!

YarpsDat · Post by **YarpsDat** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:25 pm

yeahduff wrote: Evidently, these are all the latest updates from these comics, so it's not a links page, it's a ripper.

But it's not stealing bandwidth... is it? The files seem to be hosted on their server, I'm not sure how the files are obtained though.

As for translation... what about babblefish?

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:29 pm

One thing to note is that those university sites typically are only visited by the individual themselves. My guess is that the individual at hand was too lazy to click on links to their favorite comics, so instead they set up a little script to go get the comics for them.

I'm not saying that they are in the right, but it shouldn't impact your bandwidth too much (might even save you some depending on how their script works).

Post by **Kisai** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:37 pm

Well, using yeahduff's site I rigged up something explicitly to stop it. Anything that bypasses the ad's is a no-no.

So that application is going to be banned across keenspace now.

War · Post by **War** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:41 pm

That won't cause a problem considering the ads don't seem to load half the time will it?

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:44 pm

Whoa, Yeahduff. You're having issues with comic rippers.

Congratulations, consider yourself one of the big guys now.

Post by **Kisai** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:56 pm

Digital War wrote:That won't cause a problem considering the ads don't seem to load half the time will it?

Somewhere along the line, I'm going to implement a cookie/javascript check that will "validate" that it's a real browser, browsers that ignore cookie/javascript code aren't real browsers. Real browsers do different things.

I'm not trying to prevent people from saving the comics to their hard drive. That's insane. That's like anti-piracy sofware that is broken before the software is released.

No, i'm just trying to make it difficult for people to pull the comic without actually visiting the page

Okie · Post by **Okie** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:26 pm

Why don't Keenspace ads show up in iframes?

I've set up a personal page that will load all my favorite news sites at one time in iframes, and I see all their beautiful advertisements. But when I tried it with comic sites, no keenspace ads showed up, and only 1 in 6 keenspot ads showed.

So I went back to visiting comics one at time. I'd like to use iframes to load 10 webpages at the same time, but I prefer generating adviews more.

<iframe width=800 height=540 src="http://roughies.keenspace.com/index.html" name="Roughies" scrolling = yes>no text</iframe>

Joel Fagin · Post by **Joel Fagin** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:46 pm

yeahduff wrote:How do I get the person's attention to say that this isn't cool?

Tell Jim Davis.

- Joel Fagin

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:00 pm

Kisai wrote:*fixes that sites toy wagon*

Woohoo. Kisai to the rescue. *scrounges around for sketch book*

RPin wrote:Whoa, Yeahduff. You're having issues with comic rippers.

Congratulations, consider yourself one of the big guys now.

Wow. I made it. Can't wait for the hatemail and forum slander to begin.

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:30 pm

On the ripper's site or yours?

Mr.Bob · Post by **Mr.Bob** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:57 am

We may have our man...

http://www.science.uva.nl/ict/www/guides/publicdirs/
http://www.science.uva.nl/ict/search/index_en.html
http://www.science.uva.nl/ict/search/se ... &base_uri=

Name: M Meijer (Martijn)
E-mail: mmeijer@science.uva.nl (which was a fairly obvious place to look anyway)

It's hidden by a "site under construction" message on his homepage

ICT site wrote: What you are not permitted to do

More specifically: what types or information should not be on the Web? Most information can be made available on the Web. However, we feel that extreme political opinions, pornographic images, and copyrighted material should not be on our server.

The system management reserves the right to remove any document they feel violates this last rule.

So you could always notify them instead.
Maybe to this guy. He looks like he's in charge...

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