why are gamers so dumb (rantish)

Halo299 · Post by **Halo299** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:52 am

ok i hang out on a couple of diffrent role playing game message boards. and i am over and over again reminded how dumb people can be.

ok, take this message board for an exampile. Here we talk about all sorts of cool and intellegent things, and it is done in a maner that makes sense and shows that the posters are listening to what other people are saying and responding with thought out ansewers. But you go to a role palying game message board and that is not the case.

I have to give props to the official Dungeons & Dragons message boards i haven't been there in a couple of years, but when i was, there were some very smart people there and some very intresting subjects were talked about.

Other then that it is a no mans land.

On a message board for White Wolfs new world of darkness setting a lot of people are wondering what the next game they are going to make will be. White Wolf has said that the next game will be something new and not remake one of it's older games. but i have ssen loads and loads of threads that go like this.

Poster 1: I think the next game will be Changeling because changling was teh roxxor in the old setting

Poster 2: No. They said they are no going to do on of the old games again, it will be new.

Poster 1: That sucks, they'll most likely do another Hunter game. OMFG Hunter sux.

Poster 2: No. Not redoing an old game this time, Hello?

Poster 3: OMFG are they really doing a new Hunter for teh next game!!! w00t!!!

At another time i was intrested in a game by decipher based of the Lord of the Rings setting.

Poster 1: What kind of weapon would a monk in middle-earth use?

Poster 2: Tolkien never mentioned monks in middle-earth, so there arn't any. your question sucks.

Poster 1: No. i'm playing an alternate history setting where the Enemy gets the ring back and it is now a thousand years latter where people are trying to gather enough strength to rebel. so in that time some people became monks.

Poster 2: Tolkien never mentioned alternate histories in middle-earth, so you can't do that.

Poster 3: You should have your monks be dark-skinned-elves that live underground and fight with two swords.

Poster 1: that is a great idea, and since elves are so good at makeing stuff it would only make sense that they should use too katanas!

Poster 3: Totaly!!!

Poster 1: You make baby Tolkien cry.

I know we have our share of dumbness here from time to time and it is all fine and good. but it seems to be all these people are capable of, with a very few bright happy exeptions.

It dosn't seem off when i see that kind of stuff on IMDB or something because any lazy dumb ass can watch a movie and write about it. But role-playing games, require big thick books and lots of math, just a little bit of imagination is also reqired as well. To make setting with much realisim to them knowledge of history or antropology or any number of other educational skills might be used. Wouldn't that imply that the average gamer is at least of standard intelect. so why are the ones that show up on the message boards not even able to comunicate on the freakin internet one of the least interactive modes of social interaction?

I don't get it.

Halo

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:06 am

I've been in some gaming groups that make those exchanges look tame.

Between the guys obsessed with being the biggest, strongest, most gun and sword totingist drooling slope foreheaded killers aroud, the girls with EXTREMELY limited social skills who insist on playing gay male elves who only hit on the male players and will only role play man on man sex, the one mainstream attractive girl in every group who's either sleeping with the DM or is a professional nerd-cock tease, the smelly guys who think they are the FSM's gift to intellectualism, the old guys who are on permanant disability who think they are the height of humor and only play the most obnoxious thieves, the 12 year old kids who try to fuck everything that moves, the rules lawyers who can't take a crap without consulting the DMG, and the morbidly obease girls who wear kitty ears mesh shirts short skirts and whine about how they can't get a boyfriend while shoving a 12 pack of cupcakes down their gaping maws and then go on to tell you how they are accomplished helicopter pilots and are the only ones who can fly to a specifc place because "the winds are all over the place and you have to fly through this canyon that I can fly in the dark but everyone else who has tried it has died" and yet can't name a single part on a helicopter, look at a map and tell you north, or tell the collective from the cyclic...

Not all gamers are intelligent.

(ps, these are all based on real people who used to frequent my game store. I shit you not. Additional stories avaliable upon request)

Infinity-Iz-Blue · Post by **Infinity-Iz-Blue** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:48 pm

Please Squiddy, no.

No.

All this talk of gamers and related Hijinx brings to mind the question, why hasn't somebody here got the disgruntled P+P roleplayers together? It could be a great laugh. I'd do it, but I know sweet FA about organising such things, and even less about how to run a message board...

It just occured to me that you lot mainly have lives to lead, that's why.

Durrr...

MaryxTyphus · Post by **MaryxTyphus** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:57 pm

squidflakes wrote: Between the guys obsessed with being the biggest, strongest, most gun and sword totingist drooling slope foreheaded killers aroud, the girls with EXTREMELY limited social skills who insist on playing gay male elves who only hit on the male players and will only role play man on man sex, the one mainstream attractive girl in every group who's either sleeping with the DM or is a professional nerd-cock tease, the smelly guys who think they are the FSM's gift to intellectualism, the old guys who are on permanant disability who think they are the height of humor and only play the most obnoxious thieves, the 12 year old kids who try to fuck everything that moves, the rules lawyers who can't take a crap without consulting the DMG, and the morbidly obease girls who wear kitty ears mesh shirts short skirts and whine about how they can't get a boyfriend while shoving a 12 pack of cupcakes down their gaping maws and then go on to tell you how they are accomplished helicopter pilots and are the only ones who can fly to a specifc place because "the winds are all over the place and you have to fly through this canyon that I can fly in the dark but everyone else who has tried it has died" and yet can't name a single part on a helicopter, look at a map and tell you north, or tell the collective from the cyclic...

My God, you've had that too huh?

You are not alone. Trust me you are not alone.

RavenxDrake · Post by **RavenxDrake** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:18 pm

Out of any ten people at any given gaming store, there are approximately 2 that would be worthwhile to play together with.

I propose we get some startup capitol and create a shuttleservice that will pick those worthwhile RPers up from stores and deliver them to a secret location where, gathered in small groups of five, they can have sane, intelligent, revelent sessions together in private. We can stockpile it with Bawls and snackchips, and hire armed-guards to shoot rules-lawyers on site.

It will be called... North-American Errent Role-players Dominon or N.E.R.D.!

Who's With me!

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:29 pm

squidflakes wrote:I've been in some gaming groups that make those exchanges look tame.

Between the guys obsessed with being the biggest, strongest, most gun and sword totingist drooling slope foreheaded killers aroud, the girls with EXTREMELY limited social skills who insist on playing gay male elves who only hit on the male players and will only role play man on man sex, the one mainstream attractive girl in every group who's either sleeping with the DM or is a professional nerd-cock tease, the smelly guys who think they are the FSM's gift to intellectualism, the old guys who are on permanant disability who think they are the height of humor and only play the most obnoxious thieves, the 12 year old kids who try to fuck everything that moves, the rules lawyers who can't take a crap without consulting the DMG, and the morbidly obease girls who wear kitty ears mesh shirts short skirts and whine about how they can't get a boyfriend while shoving a 12 pack of cupcakes down their gaping maws and then go on to tell you how they are accomplished helicopter pilots and are the only ones who can fly to a specifc place because "the winds are all over the place and you have to fly through this canyon that I can fly in the dark but everyone else who has tried it has died" and yet can't name a single part on a helicopter, look at a map and tell you north, or tell the collective from the cyclic...

Not all gamers are intelligent.

(ps, these are all based on real people who used to frequent my game store. I shit you not. Additional stories avaliable upon request)

Actually, this sounds very funny. Do tell Squiddy!

Also, I have been to gamer stores only a couple of times in my life. I have always been disappointed by the queue of people.

But what made me decide to never come back was the building always seems to be a hellhole. There was a single bathroom with a single stall that had outside "If you vandalize you will be banned permanently!" And the bathroom was torn up as shit. Everyone has BO. I just can't take those kinds of places.

Dragoness · Post by **Dragoness** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:30 pm

The mention of BO reminds me of about 75% of the population of my school.

For the love of god, who told the nerds not to wash? I'm a nerd! A great big one! I go to school to learn to program and rub elbows with my fellow nerds all the live long day and by god, I have the decency and foresight to wash myself before doing so! Why can't they?

When I find the one who told them "you're smart so your 3-week unwashed butt smells of roses!"... I will kill them. Slowly and painfully.

RantinAn · Post by **RantinAn** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:41 pm

It;s funny squiddy. You;ve described archtypes known as "Tarquin", "Jo Farly", and "Hazel". Somehow you missed "Darren' the suposed ex special forces sniper wwargamer who tips over the gaming tabeles when he loses.

Honor · Post by **Honor** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:30 am

Infinity-Iz-Blue wrote:All this talk of gamers and related Hijinx brings to mind the question, why hasn't somebody here got the disgruntled P+P roleplayers together? It could be a great laugh. I'd do it, but I know sweet FA about organising such things, and even less about how to run a message board...

I know how to run a phpBB board now, and I'm interested in maybe creating an OLRPG Traveller or maybe (classic, original) VtM site... No reason it couldn't be a multi-game site. What's P+P?

Rand Al'tor · Post by **Rand Al'tor** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:46 am

Pen and paper, basically, 'not on the computer or LARP' if I have it correctly.

Honor · Post by **Honor** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:48 am

Rand Al'tor wrote:Pen and paper, basically, 'not on the computer or LARP' if I have it correctly.

Ah... Got it. What we used to call "tabletop" once we started adding LARP as a viable alternative.

I'd still like to try a forum based game... it'd be kinda PBMish, but it -could- work, doncha think?

LindaH · Post by **LindaH** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:52 am

i been in some forum based RPGs (mostly on delphiforums.com) and they tend to work well as long as all the players are on the same wavelength so to speak.. now and then someone wants to bring in guns to a fantasy setting etc but.. mostly they work

Honor · Post by **Honor** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:03 am

LindaH wrote:now and then someone wants to bring in guns to a fantasy setting etc but..

Seems easy enough to fix... If GMs are 'approved' before they can start a game and have moderator power in their own thread... *poof* dingbat-delete!

Rand Al'tor · Post by **Rand Al'tor** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:17 am

Ooh, sounds like a fun idea! I know I'm not exactly the most active member in the forums (26 posts with this one I believe) but if someone starts it, and I can join, I'd love to. (living in the absolute back end of Belgium right now)

LindaH · Post by **LindaH** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:27 am

Honor wrote:
LindaH wrote:now and then someone wants to bring in guns to a fantasy setting etc but..
Seems easy enough to fix... If GMs are 'approved' before they can start a game and have moderator power in their own thread... *poof* dingbat-delete!

yupp and that is what happens and then the poofed person makes a thread about his "logic" behind it and yada yada... not sayin it happens a lot but it happens

Halo299 · Post by **Halo299** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:39 am

i guess you are right about the 2 people per gaming store thing. I mentioned that on the D&D boards there seems to be a lot more intelligent conversation. I guess it might just be because there are so many more people there I never even bothered to listen to the dumb one, like my brain just kind of edited them out for me. While the other boards are smaller thus there are less intelligent people there to talk to. It is sad though. And it works against them because if the smart ones don

Major Maxillary · Post by **Major Maxillary** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:40 am

as a general rule, most gamers are the most fucktarded people around.

one reason is the following equation;

gamer+internets+anonymity+no real mental substance=fucktard

another reason is that they most of them suck.

i've had conversations that have basically proven the old addage "the worst part about multiplayer is that you have to play with outher people."

one time i was berating people in Darkspace for not securing the current system properly, stating that we needed to communicate, that we needed to secure certain places, and to actually network. to which, one of them actually said "an army that communicates is more predictable than an army that doesn't, giving the army that doesn't and edge."

... AHAHAGAUAGAHAID.ASDHSDFABBQ! if you don't know what the problem of that statement is, then you should read your history. uncoordinated armies have always fallen before coordinated ones.

every attempt i made at bringing tactics to those in Darkspace was like casting pearls before swine. i even used that metaphore and someone actually thought i was calling him a pig. it depressed me to no end.

LindaH · Post by **LindaH** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:02 am

it is odd about gamers and lack of peronal hygene. but i think it is a generally teenage thing. I used to play a lot of Warhammer (tabletop game with plastic and metal figures) and.. shesh.. sometimes you could cut the air with an axe!!

Major Maxillary · Post by **Major Maxillary** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:38 am

every gamer knows of Warhammer 40k. hell, I know of it and i don't even play it.

but yeah, sometimes i would go days without food. not because i couldn't afford it or go to the store, but simply because i forgot to eat.

but i can tell you that even then i would still take breaks to shower at least.

let's let that sink in for a bit; i would forget to eat, but i still remembered to take showers.

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:49 am

I don't get it. Do people want to smell bad? It is not hard to wash yourself. I like taking showers.

I just don't get it...