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[Joel Fagin]

I'm curious how ol' 800x600 is going these days and decided I needed some data outside of the webcomic creator demographic that visit my tutorial site.

So... What percentage of hits are people getting from old fashioned, low res 800x600 screens? I've got me 1.5%.

If the average ends up below five, I'd say it's a dead res and safe to ignore. *crosses fingers*

- Joel Fagin

[Tetsuo75]

About 3.06%
For what it's worth I don't bother with that resolution at all....

[Turnsky]

I'm curious how ol' 800x600 is going these days and decided I needed some data outside of the webcomic creator demographic that visit my tutorial site.

So... What percentage of hits are people getting from old fashioned, low res 800x600 screens? I've got me 1.5%.

If the average ends up below five, I'd say it's a dead res and safe to ignore. *crosses fingers*

- Joel Fagin

these days 1024x768's the norm i believe. i usually design my own sites around a 1024 pixel width (1020 to be safe)

[Killbert-Robby]

10.56%

[NakedElf]

Of my last 500 visitors, 0.2% were using 600x800.

1024x768=74.15%

[Renard]

800x600: 3.17%

So it looks like that it is indeed a dying resolution. In that case, I might have to consider a site redesign.

[Kemmy]

The last 500 hits on my non-CG site panned out as follows:


250 (50.51%): 1024x768
181 (36.57%): 1280x1024
44 (8.89%): Unknown
9 (1.82%): 1152x864
6 (1.21%): 640x480
4 (0.81%): 800x600
1 (0.20%): 1600x1200

I expect I constitute at least a couple of the low-res hits myself. My machine at home has a low-res monitor so incompatible with it (my original one died, and I had to borrow a friend's) that the screen area has set itself at 640x480 and will not change (my friend assures me it should go to 600x800). That's pretty damned frustrating when most sites are going all wide. Hell...it's even frustrating when I'm viewing 600x800 sites.

Someday, I shall not be poor. Someday, I shall not be poor...

[Swimmingtrunks]

Last 500 views-

220 44.72% 1024x768
139 28.25% 1280x1024
87 17.68% Unknown
34 6.91% 800x600
12 2.44% 1152x864

I still try to make things not enormous for the 800x600 people. But it gets increasingly hard, because it gets so small on my beautiful 1680x1050 resolution.

[Warofwinds]

1. 1024x768 35.66%
2. 1280x1024 28.93%
3. 1280x800 7.76%
4. 1440x900 6.38%
5. 1152x864 5.87%
6. 1600x1200 3.37%
7. 1680x1050 2.20%
8. 1400x1050 2.14%
9. 800x600 2.11%
10. 1280x768 1.60%

Here are the top 10 of 26 total screen resolutions for visitors in June for my comic.

I like to keep my website's width maxed at 800. Any bigger, and I get the urge to cram in features, which I don't like doing. Since I just reorganized the whole site, I've noticed 3x more page views as usual. I don't mind sites for 1024x768 too much, except when the width is maxed out for that. I prefer around 950px max myself.

[Tyras]

5.15% for me. Good, cuz I never really designed for 800 x 600 anyways.

Edit: Hey, apparently 50% of my readers use Firefox, and only 35% use IE. When the hell did that start happening?

[Spqrblues]

uhm... where are you folks getting your stats from? Or are you referring to non-CG sites or info you had already gathered?

[Kemmy]

uhm... where are you folks getting your stats from? Or are you referring to non-CG sites or info you had already gathered?

I have StatCounter installed on my non-CG site.

[Adobedragon]

uhm... where are you folks getting your stats from? Or are you referring to non-CG sites or info you had already gathered?

I have the above mentioned Stat Counter on my CG site, as well as a couple of other sites. It has a System Stats option that gives you resolution info, although this is first time I've ever looked at it. (7.22% for 800x600)

Edit: Hey, apparently 50% of my readers use Firefox, and only 35% use IE. When the hell did that start happening?

It's at about 58% Firefox and 38% IE at my site. Which is good, because I design for Firefox.

Or maybe it's bad, because now the hijackers will start targeting Firefox. ?

[C.w.]

uhm... where are you folks getting your stats from? Or are you referring to non-CG sites or info you had already gathered?

I added google analytics to my site a while ago. It's nice for stuff like this, and it's been great to have with the recent server funk.

I get about 6.5% at 800x600. I would definitely not reccomend simply ignoring it because of the low amount of users, especially now that emerging devices like the iphone (yes, i know it does not have an 800x600 screen, but that's about the biggest site i'd want to browse on the thing.) and wii browser are using resolutions similar to it, and are trying to give users "the real internet".

Really, fixed width layouts are a thing of the past. Elastic layouts are the in thing now, and for good reason. Resolutions are no longer cut and dried 4:3 with the largest being 1600x1200. Over 15% of my stats show widescreens, and almost 3% are over 1600px wide. Remember too that poeple who have obnoxious resolution screens often have them in leiu of dual monitor setups, and run everything in small windows. Mac users tend to run smaller windows too.

When you design an elastic layout, you've got to decide what your minimum width is going to be. The largest element on screen for most comics is the comic itself, and it rarely needs to be above 800px wide, especially when taking compression and bandwidth into consideration. So minimum width for most comic layouts would be 740px (smaller doesn't make sense as that's how big the ad banner is). Max width doesn't matter as much, but you have to take into consideration readability on large screens, so i'd set the news post to have a maximum width of 20em - 30em.

The problem you're going to run into is that elastic layouts are harder to test and code than fixed width, and are virtually unheard of to anyone who still codes with straight html (i'd assume that demographic would be a large portion of people reading your tutorials Mr. Fagin).

[Joel Fagin]

I would definitely not reccomend simply ignoring it because of the low amount of users especially now that emerging devices like the iphone (yes, i know it does not have an 800x600 screen, but that's about the biggest site i'd want to browse on the thing.)

Well, the reason I'm asking is a new site I'm doing and it's only just over 800 wide so it should be okay.

Really, fixed width layouts are a thing of the past. Elastic layouts are the in thing now, and for good reason.

Alas, these are comics. You can't stretch a big image* so an elastic layout is nearly pointless. My tutorials are elastic, though.

- Joel Fagin

* Yet.

[C.w.]

Well, the reason I'm asking is a new site I'm doing and it's only just over 800 wide so it should be okay.

What do you mean, "just over"? Ten pixels, or a hundred?

Alas, these are comics. You can't stretch a big image* so an elastic layout is nearly pointless. My tutorials are elastic, though.

Elastic layouts are useful even on comic sites, because comic sites (for the most part) aren't just a picture. Sure, the picture can't change size, but that doesn't mean the newspost can't, or the header, or whatever other elements are on the page.

[Joel Fagin]

Well, the reason I'm asking is a new site I'm doing and it's only just over 800 wide so it should be okay.

What do you mean, "just over"? Ten pixels, or a hundred?

About a hundred, but only fifty is in any way important. The rest is decoration going off the sides. I could actually make it 800x600 compatible by making the decoration background. That way, if it doesn't fit it simply isn't there. The webpage remains centred on the comic and the spare junk is off the edge where you can't even scroll to it.

I'm just wondering if I should bother. I have a few websites queued just now.

Elastic layouts are useful even on comic sites, because comic sites (for the most part) aren't just a picture. Sure, the picture can't change size, but that doesn't mean the newspost can't, or the header, or whatever other elements are on the page.

Well, I like to keep the comic without any clutter around it so everything else goes below it. Things have to line up vertically to be visually pleasing and that means the newspost also becomes fixed.

- Joel Fagin

[Jackhass]

[Checks]...around 4 percent here.

[Eff]

5.15% for me. Good, cuz I never really designed for 800 x 600 anyways.

Edit: Hey, apparently 50% of my readers use Firefox, and only 35% use IE. When the hell did that start happening?

Hey, 100% of my readers use Firefox! That's amazing.
Wait a minute, I use firefox...

oh gawd

OH GAWD