Humping animals <<the thread name, it compels you!!

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:35 am

I'm on a roll this week.

Bestiality: What are your views?

I've fapped to that kind of stuff...even though it is illegal I think.

Queenhank · Post by **Queenhank** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:51 am

It's only illegal in some states (assuming you are in the US), and I don't think beastiality porn is illegal in any state, just actually doing it (could be wrong).

My views on the subject are: an animal is not a person. It is a tool. Usually, they are used for food, sometimes for helping people (seeing-eye dogs, K-9 units, etc.), and, on occasion, for sexual gratification. Okay, so they are versatile tools.

What I find odd are the people who imbue human characteristics into animals, and even go so far as to have relationships with them (this includes the guy who marries a goat as well as anybody who sees their pets as "friends". Sorry, I just don't get it).

So, yeah. I masturbate to things I see on my computer. That doesn't make me a computer fetishist, and I don't want to marry my computer. By that same token, using a dog (or squid,as the case may be...) for sexual gratification doesn't mean I give a shit about them, much less love them. Animals, to me, are objects, which take a lot of maintenance, and wear out fairly quick.

...And tend to taste good with pepper

Kingofthemorlocks · Post by **Kingofthemorlocks** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:55 am

As long as no humans or animals are hurt, I have no problem with it. I'm not going to be sticking my dick in any sheep (despite my Scottish heritage) but if a person gets off on being mounted by a labrador retriever, more power to them.

I've also fapped to some beast-porn in my time, enough to be able to tell the fake horse-cumshots from the real ones.

I also gave my neighbour's whippet Charlie a handjob once. The people living next door to my neighbour on the other side had a mixed-breed bitch who was in heat, and poor Charlie was going crazy trying to hump her through the fence. I jacked the little guy off to help relieve some pressure for him, and now everytime he sees me he gets a half-chub.

Halo299 · Post by **Halo299** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:02 am

well the internet is a really big place and you can find lot of neat stuff if you know where to look...

as for doing it in realy life, i don't know.

i have a lot of respect for animals and think of them as being about three peg above humans in the "things that are improtant to me scale"

but my Gf is about 10 peg up, and i have sex with her

so i really don't see the "i think too much of animals to have sex with them" argument as making much sense.

just as long as the animal isn't being hurt i guess it's fine

I have heard stories about dogs and stuff being trained for that reason and i guess there are a lot worse things you could make a dog do.

I guess it just seems so 'odd' to people that they have an immidiate negative reaction.

-halo

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:04 am

... I'm sure people can guess my response to the question by now. -_-; My very gut screams 'No' at the concept. And my brain keeps trying to shut down. It's just ... it's not a fellow human being. To me, it's not right; it's an instinctive thing, as well as how I was raised.

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:11 am

Well, I look forward to more insight.

One argument I've heard is that animals cannot give consent. What about that?

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:17 am

I've known enough furry dog fuckers in my time. I don't really give a rats ass what gets them off, so I say, if they wanna fuck dogs, let 'em fuck dogs.

Now, I turn things over to the Doug Anthony All Stars

I fuck dogs, in the park, after dark,
When the moon is up high in the sky.
The Great Dane is too tall,
Chihuahuas are too small.
But the dog that I like to quell lonely nights,
Well the dachshund is best of all.
Because he is longer than he's thin,
He love's to let me in.
His eyes fill with love, he fits like a glove.
And that's why he is man's best friend.

I fuck dogs, I fuck dogs.
We all fuck dogs in the park.
She fucks dogs, She fucks dogs,
We all fuck dogs in the park.

He's got bed bugs, ticks and nits if he scratches then I itch.
But the kennel is cramped and though he's a scamp,
Life with a dog is a bitch.
You'll never be alone if you give the dog a bone.
I'm not weird we don't kiss.
But the problem is this, his bark , arf arf arf arf arf arf!
Is worse than his bite.

'argh, aaack, furball'

His bark is worst than his bite
I fuck dogs, in the park, after dark,
When the moon is up high in the sky.
And I'm not proud.

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:19 pm

[Imagine yourself in an upper class British Gentleman's Club]

"Did you here about Smithers? Ran off and is living in sin with a monkey in Bongo-Bongostan."

"A monkey! Male or female?"

"Female of course. Nothing un-natural about old Smithers."

Puts me in mind of the Sudanese man who was caught having sex with his neighbor's goat. The village elders didn't take him to the police to be thrown in jail or executed. They said "Alright. You've used the goat like a woman, so we're going to make you do the honorable thing. Congratulations. You've just married a goat. Now give the former owner the bride-price."

Personally, I'd rather have been shot. The guy will probably change his name and leave the country.

Queenhank · Post by **Queenhank** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:30 pm

One argument I've heard is that animals cannot give consent. What about that?

Dildos don't give consent, but we still use them, right?

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:34 pm

Dildos aren't sentient beings.

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:34 pm

That only works when you, (as you do), consider animals the same as a hunk of plastic.

RavenxDrake · Post by **RavenxDrake** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:09 pm

As far as consent, if the animal in question is not forced to perform these acts(See the joke "Why do you fuck a sheep at the edge of a cliff"), but does them of thier own will, then as far as I'm concearned they've given consent.

A woman strokes her dog in a special way, the dog gets frisky and starts licking, one thing leads to another, and boom, they have sex. That, as far as I'm concearned, is consent. They hardly need a "one bark for yes, two barks for no" system if they're treated as free individuals.

As far as actually doing it myself... Honestly, I've never seriously considered it, though I've certainly seen it(pictures and video, etc).

Queenhank · Post by **Queenhank** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:20 pm

Error of Logic wrote:Dildos aren't sentient beings.

And neither are animals. Although there is just the slightest possibility for dolphins, there is absolutely no evidence that any life-form on Earth besides humans is sentient. All the awareness and intelligence people see in animals is put there in their own mind.

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:44 pm

queenhank wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:Dildos aren't sentient beings.
And neither are animals. Although there is just the slightest possibility for dolphins, there is absolutely no evidence that any life-form on Earth besides humans is sentient. All the awareness and intelligence people see in animals is put there in their own mind.

Ehh ... I think you're confusing 'sentient' with 'sapient'.

Indigo Violent · Post by **Indigo Violent** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:46 pm

I could accept the consent argument - I could - if not for one tiny detail.
The same animals we consider it so very wrong to fuck without consent, we cheerfully slaughter and devour. And I have no ethical problem with that.
Sure, the thought of having sex with animals makes me feel icky inside. So does the thought of eating liver.
So I figure, as long as it's not causing Bessie or Fido any pain, sure, go to town, as long as s/he belongs to you.

Queenhank · Post by **Queenhank** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:07 pm

Error of Logic wrote:
queenhank wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:Dildos aren't sentient beings.
And neither are animals. Although there is just the slightest possibility for dolphins, there is absolutely no evidence that any life-form on Earth besides humans is sentient. All the awareness and intelligence people see in animals is put there in their own mind.
Ehh ... I think you're confusing 'sentient' with 'sapient'.

No. "Sentient" means, in common usage, "self-aware", which does kind of encroach upon the meaning of "sapient". However, I am (for once) not using the common usage, but rather using it in the sense that one who is spiritually inclined might define as having a "soul". Animals are not, in my opinion, beings. They are life-forms, in that they reproduce biologically, and that is as close as they get. All their seeming "thought" is simply a series of evolutionarily programmed responses to stimuli. And yes, one could argue the same is true of humans, but since we make the definitions, we get to include ourselves wherever we want to.

Animals are biological computers, and nothing more. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I suppose that's what makes it an opinion, and not "common knowledge". They eat, they sleep, they breathe, they shit, they fuck, they're born and they die. Nowhere in there do they "think" in any meaningful way. As such, I do not see them as having the capability to consent, nor the right of consent, in much the same way my computer has no say in whether I type this or not.

Edit: for the record, my personal definition of "sentience" is best worded as "capable of independent and original thought".

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:14 pm

Ah. Then, once again, I find myself embroiled in a war of interpretations. Let's just agree you have your opinion and I have mine. *shrug*

Awkwardschoolgirl · Post by **Awkwardschoolgirl** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:19 pm

Well, I think that if the animal isn't hurt it isn't wrong. Things like being mounted and penetrated by a dog or having your cat lick your genitals is okay. I'm not exactly for the penetrating of animals, unless there is lots of lube involved (especially if the penetration is anal) and the animal doesn't get hurt at all in any way.

MaryxTyphus · Post by **MaryxTyphus** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:59 pm

Weeeeeeell.... I personally agree with the others, as long as the animal is not hurt it's fine. I'm going to admit I have thought of a snake that way and as a matter of fact most people that I actually talked about it to said they'd rather see a girl with a snake than with any other animal due to the fact that I think for the most part the snake wouldn't care. It'd just lay there or maybe even slither around a bit because it wouldn't feel much. That's kind of one reason why if I were ever to perform beastiality it'd be on a snake. That and usually anything with fur kind of Squicks me out a bit when it comes to sex. But then the thing that stops me is the fact that the snake would have to be my own snake and around the time that I own a snake I'd feel as if it was too much like a family member and really wouldn't want to you know?

Yeah I know I'm crazy

Kingofthemorlocks · Post by **Kingofthemorlocks** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:11 pm

Girls with snakes are my personal favorite as well. Even just posing with a boa constrictor around her shoulders is hot.