I'm BAAAAACK! Re: Kelly (temporarily) stepping down as admin

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Thu May 19, 2005 5:54 pm

What this really means is that Kisai now has double the work to do in her limited amount of time. If this drives her to strike too, Keenspace is without an admin and that's a BAD thing.

This is either nothing (everything will be resolved with little or no problems) or it's it's going to start ballooning into something bad very soon.

Terotrous · Post by **Terotrous** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:02 pm

IIRC, Keenspace exploded within 3 hours the last time we had no admin. Luckily Kisai was able to fix it remotely while on vacation.

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:13 pm

Terotrous wrote:IIRC, Keenspace exploded within 3 hours the last time we had no admin. Luckily Kisai was able to fix it remotely while on vacation.

Thankfully, the system is in working order and can continue w/o crashing. I do have my hopes that it will be resolved without too much delay.

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:33 pm

As someone who's admined for no pay before (technically still doing so... *ime and *elven dropdowns) I know it's a real bitch. It's extremely difficult to make a fix that doesn't break something else, and I've broken every site on *ime in the past few days (yay for people who let you put random javascript on their pages!) and then fixed them again. Working with databases is even more fun, especially since small fixes you've done in the past can screw up your major fixes later.

Since it is patently ridiculous for *spot Entertainment to do anything else at this point other than kowtow, I don't see this situation lasting long. I generally support your decision, Kelly, and I hope an agreement can be reached that is worth your while. I can't imagine they are really asking you to do on such short notice what it seems they are asking, and once they get around to communicating that, hopefully it will chill things out a bit.

It sounds like you still want to help, and that's always been my impression of you, so here is hoping you get what you need in order to do so.

And yes, I know I still owe you that fanart, my comic is behind too. I've been busy admining *ime.

*="Keen". Posted for general consumption as well, because I'm an attention whore.

TheBladeRoden2 · Post by **TheBladeRoden2** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:21 pm

This is the part where I get even more confused about the Spot/Space relationship.

Jackhass · Post by **Jackhass** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:52 pm

Well, I don't know you too well or anything...but I hope all is resolved and things continue to run smoothly. Heh, and maybe you can get around to making my messageboard *wink wink*.

Tynan · Post by **Tynan** » Thu May 19, 2005 9:41 pm

STrRedWolf wrote:I'll get to the point this time around:

Until communications improve between KeenSpot and myself, I, Kelly Price (aka STrRedWolf) will no longer administer KeenSpace.

This lack of communications has gotten to a head as of recently. As is, I have been working without a promised contract for the past four years, and without pay for the past year. Because of this, the heavy decision to stop all work has been made.

KeenSpot's Teri Crosby has been notified by phone. I have always be able to contact her by phone, and she has been very graceful. She earns the KeenMom name.

KeenSpot's Darren Bleuel has also been notified by phone via voicemail.

The rest of the KeenSpot staff (Chris Crosby and Nate Stone) has been notified by email.

Stalag '99 will continue, although it may be mirrored off KeenSpace.

Sad to see you go.

Mind Pollution · Post by **Mind Pollution** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:15 pm

Well, good luck. It'll be interesting to see what happens next at least.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:31 pm

Interesting is one way of describing it.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Fri May 20, 2005 5:21 am

"Aw fucking hell, cross your fingers, the ride is about to get bumpy" is a better way of putting it, imho.

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:54 am

Just to clear things up a bit: I'm not completely gone. You may say this is a hiatus of my duties as admin -- an unfortunately nessisary one.

To update you: Gav has replied back, and is hesitant in taking over writing the contract for Nate. Thankfully, I archived all the emails I've had from Nate and Gav, including an earlier contract which I have a few objections to, and that they even recommended I didn't sign. A good starting point, no? I'll be working with Gav, but if things go badly, I'll be out for about a week.

Dburkhead · Post by **Dburkhead** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:59 am

PeppermintAfterlife wrote:Interesting is one way of describing it.

"May you live in Interesting Times"--not actually an ancient Chinese curse, but seems to originate with SF author Eric Frank Russell:

http://hawk.fab2.albany.edu/sidebar/sidebar.htm

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Fri May 20, 2005 4:43 pm

This is almost as bad as when Sammy Hagar left Van Halen.

No, wait, I take that back. I liked David Lee Roth better.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:04 pm

Toxic wrote:This is almost as bad as when Sammy Hagar left Van Halen.

No, wait, I take that back. I liked David Lee Roth better.

Does anybody like that dude from Extreme? Anyone?

Leko · Post by **Leko** » Fri May 20, 2005 9:50 pm

This is making me nervous. First all these folks up and leave Keenspot, then there's uproar over the namechange, and then we lose an admin, even if it is temporary. Anybody else starting to feel seriously uneasy?

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:05 pm

Warren wrote:
Toxic wrote:This is almost as bad as when Sammy Hagar left Van Halen.

No, wait, I take that back. I liked David Lee Roth better.
Does anybody like that dude from Extreme? Anyone?

David Lee Roth Van Halen is the only Van Halen.

Dotty · Post by **Dotty** » Sat May 21, 2005 9:51 am

yeahduff wrote:
Warren wrote:
Toxic wrote:This is almost as bad as when Sammy Hagar left Van Halen.

No, wait, I take that back. I liked David Lee Roth better.
Does anybody like that dude from Extreme? Anyone?
David Lee Roth Van Halen is the only Van Halen.

Fucking. Right.

Seeing STRredWolf go is a BAD thing. The dude is an administrative god. I was pissed he banned Van....but lets face it, dude asked for it, and continued to ask for it, pretty much most of the time he was here. Van's cool shit, but has a temper.

That's about the only thing I've seen Wolf do that annoyed me. The rest of what he's been doing, is keeping Space running, and doing a damn fine job as well. I find he's around a lot more than Kisai, and if I ever had a problem, I'd probably go to him, since he appears to be around whenever I am. Just the way time constraints work I guess.

Now I can't do that....because he's not getting paid? That's retarded. Throw the dog a bone....and never fuck with a mans paycheque.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Sat May 21, 2005 9:52 pm

mcDuffies wrote:If there wasn't for Kelly, Van woulda been banned long ago.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Sat May 21, 2005 9:53 pm

From the sounds of it, everything will be settled quickly. It's nice to see the man's finally getting some well deserved credit, though.

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:07 pm

Clearly it's less the communication and money problems, and more the failure of the Admin Appreciation Thread, that prompted this move.

Clearly.