The Chat Quotelist: All the Cool Kids do it.

[Linkara]

I don't get it - if you're just going to put the milk bag in a jug or container anyway, why not just sell the milk directly in a plastic container?!

[KWill]

Milk bags produce less waste than milk jugs. They're also cheaper to produce and likely easier to store and transport in larger quantities than jugs.

[Kirb]

<GhostClaude> i think i'll fall off the internet
<Kirb-comicking> !
* GhostClaude falls
<Rock> NO CLAUDE NO
<GhostClaude> aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
* Rock grabs Claude's hand
<Rock> I'M NOT GONNNA LOSE YOU
* Rock starts to slip
<GhostClaude> no rock
<GhostClaude> I have to go
<GhostClaude> its the only way
<GhostClaude> to save the world
<Rock> No, there is another way!
<Rock> The old man told me!
* GhostClaude shakes his head
<GhostClaude> that old man...
<GhostClaude> was three rottweillers in a sack
<Rock> !
* Rock loses Claude's hand
* GhostClaude slow motion topples into the abyss
<Rock> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
* GhostClaude is surrounded by cherry blossom petals for no reason
* GhostClaude turns to golden dust
* Rock has an extreme closeup of his horrified expression
* GhostClaude has quit IRC (Quit: GhostClaude)

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[Kirb]

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* Kirb overtakes the king of candyland
<Kirb> BEHEAD THE TYRANT
<Rock> !
<Beanish> :O
<Rock> NO
<Rock> NOT THE KING
<Rock> YOU CAN'T
<Rock> HE'S DONE NOTHING BUT GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF CANDYLAND!
<Kirb> you bloody tory
* Kirb shoots Rock
<Rock> urk...!
* Rock hopes in his dying moments, that he has bought enough time for the king to be smuggled into the Gundrop Mountains...
* Rock also hopes that he told his allies to take the King to the Gumdrop Mountains, and not the Gundrop Mountains...
<Beanish> ...woops
* Beanish is now known as Allies_of_Rock
* Allies_of_Rock are totally in the Gundrop mountains
* Rock is now known as King_Kandy
<King_Kandy> I say boys, appreciate the save, but are you sure this is the...
* Allies_of_Rock are all shot to death by gundrop trees
* Allies_of_Rock is now known as Beanish
<King_Kandy> oh dear

[Pimpette]

I don't get it - if you're just going to put the milk bag in a jug or container anyway, why not just sell the milk directly in a plastic container?!

The point I failed to get across is that you put the bag itself in a plastic pitcher, cut a small hole in the corner of the bag, and pour from that.
Lego seemed almost offended by the concept... I do understand that an open bag of milk in the fridge does seem a little off... but if you drink enough milk that it's only there for a day or two, it is a lot easier than keeping a handful of cartons in the fridge.

[Tellurider]

Epic Battle.

<Linkara> I am the new number two.
<Linkara> You are number six.
<Telly> I AM NOT A NUMBER
<djmayhem> Sony, release the goddamn PS1 Square games on the PS3 IN THE US TOO
<Telly> I AM A FREE MAN
<Telly> AND I'LL HAVE SEX WHEN I WANT TO
<Linkara> Look like a free woman, to me. Zing!
<Telly> wait wrong series
<RobbyD> O_O
<RobbyD> Telly's a WHAT!?
<djmayhem> they've been releasing games like Xenogears in a Virtual Console esque fashion on PS3, AND I WANT IT
<Telly> yes
<Telly> my secret is out
<Telly> I'm a man
* Linkara plays 70s action music while Telly is chased around by a huge bubble.
<Telly> which is awesome
<Telly> 'cause, check it out
* Telly struts around with no shirt on
<Linkara> See? I told you she was free.
* Telly grows a manly beard
<RobbyD> O_O
<RobbyD> Telly has no shirt on!
<RobbyD> AWESOME
<blackawhatz> I think that's a hormone imbalance you've got there.
* Telly hits the gym and gets manly pecs
<blackawhatz> Or Cushings disease.
<Telly> I AM A MAN
<Linkara> YOU ARE A NUMBER.
<blackawhatz> Sure, but I don't think even the manliest of men grow beards that fast.
<Telly> I AM A MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
<Telly> I'm just *that* manly
* Telly oozes testosterone
* Linkara rolls in on an old-timey bicycle and laughs at Telly.
* Telly punches Link in a very manly way
<RobbyD> Aw man she's getting it all over me
<Telly> I AM NOT A SHE
* Linkara sends the evil balloon in to crush Telly
<Telly> I AM HE
* Telly pops the balloon with his swiss army knife
<blackawhatz> That'd be macho if it wasn't a balloon.
<blackawhatz> You need to go out and wrestle some bears.
<Telly> good point
* Telly goes out into the woods
<Telly> FACE ME, URSINE SCUM!
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<blackawhatz> Don't jump 'em until you see the whites of their eyes.
=-= RobbyD is now known as RoBear
<RoBear> RAWWWWWWR
<Telly> !
* RoBear swings his paws around
* Telly tackles RoBear
<RoBear> RUUUUAAAAARRRRRRR
* Telly rips out big tufts of his fur
* Telly gouges his eyes
<RoBear> EAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR
* RoBear flips Telly off him
* RoBear charges at him with his claws
* Telly rolls into a defensive crouch
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* RoBear rears up on his hind legs
* Telly takes out his bootknife
* Telly springs for the jugular!
* RoBear swing's at Telly's head, misses!
<RoBear> RAUUUUURRRRRRRRR
* Linkara gives Blackaby some popcorn
* RoBear bleeds everywhere
* Telly stabs RoBear again and again
* RoBear swings his paws around in desperation
* Telly is totally covered in blood and sweat and mud
* RoBear gives Telly a whack to the kidneys
* Telly punches RoBear in the nose
<RoBear> EEEOOOOOOOOOOOO
* RoBear is seriously pissed now
<Telly> uh oh
* Telly grabs a rock
* RoBear shoots lazers from his eyes at Telly
* Telly blocks with the rock!
* RoBear melts the rock into DIAMONDS
<Telly> ......
* Telly uses the diamonds to hack off RoBear's legs
<RoBear> URAAAAR!
* RoBear sprouts tentacles from the bloody stumps
<Telly> oh god no
* RoBear swings wildly at Telly
* Telly grabs some diamonds and runs
<blackawhatz> Okay, now it's not manly anymore, it's a teenage girl fight.
* Linkara rips off his shirt and jumps into the ring.
<Telly> at least I made a profit
<Linkara> ROOOOOOARRR!
* RoBear shoots rockets from the tips of his tentacles
<blackawhatz> Seriously, it's like you're wearing school uniform right now and a short skirt.

[Kirb]

Lego seemed almost offended by the concept... I do understand that an open bag of milk in the fridge does seem a little off... but if you drink enough milk that it's only there for a day or two, it is a lot easier than keeping a handful of cartons in the fridge.

It is almost offensive!

Not to mention that people in the US are typically used having a sealable carton/container of milk that will last them until whenever the expiration date is without worry. I don't think a bag of milk is much bigger than a carton, either... just squishier.

Strangely, I don't think British Columbia has milk in a bag, everything was in cartons. Calgary too.

[Rkolter]

Milk bags produce less waste than milk jugs. They're also cheaper to produce and likely easier to store and transport in larger quantities than jugs.

I don't know if this is true. Our milk jugs are reusable, and are often found being used for a variety of purposes other than storing milk. They're also recyclable (so are bags, but that goes against the 'less waste' thing).

I think they probably cost the same to produce as a bag, although bags are probably produced quicker.

As for transport - they are produced where they are filled, making transporting them a null issue - you don't transport empty jugs (except as recycled goods, and then they're crushed flat). A bag of milk that's filled is probably similarly difficult to transport as a jug of milk. And, milk jugs have convienent handles!

[Phact0rri]

As for transport - they are produced where they are filled, making transporting them a null issue - you don't transport empty jugs (except as recycled goods, and then they're crushed flat). A bag of milk that's filled is probably similarly difficult to transport as a jug of milk. And, milk jugs have convienent handles!

by average milk bags are 10% lighter, contain 60% less water, and they can fit a lot more on a truck that reduces emissions. On top of that eco-pac has designed a milk bag, that is 60-75% less packing materials than a regular milk jug. Cosco and walmart have also redesigned the milk jug so its more like a milk bag in the last few years, due in part to the manufacturing costs of plastic, which has skyrocketed the last few years.. for those out of the loop.

Soy milk really needs to step up the curve on eco packaging as well.

[Kirb]

Costco and walmart have also redesigned the milk jug so its more like a milk bag in the last few years, due in part to the manufacturing costs of plastic, which has skyrocketed the last few years.. for those out of the loop.

Costco hasn't changed anything here, nor Walmart (but who buys milk at walmart...) :|

In any case, while the bag may be slightly more eco-friendly than plastic jugs (arguable), that's not the reason it will never catch on. Besides bags being harder to recycle and the bagged milk absorbing all the smells in the fridge, it's simply because people don't like it. Green ketchup, crystal pepsi, etc. There's a reason the milk bag didn't catch on in most places in the world in the 70s.

[Jesusabdullah]

green ketchup

I totally had this idea like six months before it happened. Same with whackilly-colored mustard.

[KWill]

I don't know if this is true. Our milk jugs are reusable, and are often found being used for a variety of purposes other than storing milk. They're also recyclable (so are bags, but that goes against the 'less waste' thing).

Canada and the US aren't exactly on the recycling bandwagon overall, hence producing a product that uses less plastic that will most likely be thrown away will produce less waste.

I think they probably cost the same to produce as a bag, although bags are probably produced quicker.

Which I suppose would mean that they are somewhat more desireable if not cheaper, as "time is money."

As for transport - they are produced where they are filled, making transporting them a null issue - you don't transport empty jugs (except as recycled goods, and then they're crushed flat). A bag of milk that's filled is probably similarly difficult to transport as a jug of milk. And, milk jugs have convienent handles!

Ah, but you can't stack as many jugs as you can bags, since bags are technically amorphous and only require some means of preventing them from bursting. Much easier for transportation, since you can transport more in the same amount of space, if that is the limiting factor.

[McDuffies]

green ketchup

I totally had this idea like six months before it happened. Same with whackilly-colored ketchup.

But how do you know it's ketchup?

[Ti-Phil]

Costco and walmart have also redesigned the milk jug so its more like a milk bag in the last few years, due in part to the manufacturing costs of plastic, which has skyrocketed the last few years.. for those out of the loop.

Costco hasn't changed anything here, nor Walmart (but who buys milk at walmart...) :|

In any case, while the bag may be slightly more eco-friendly than plastic jugs (arguable), that's not the reason it will never catch on. Besides bags being harder to recycle and the bagged milk absorbing all the smells in the fridge, it's simply because people don't like it. Green ketchup, crystal pepsi, etc. There's a reason the milk bag didn't catch on in most places in the world in the 70s.

Milk bags aren't new you know. They've been there since way before my birth, so we are all kind of used to it here. After that it's wash, empty and hop into the recycling bag.

And I sometime buy milk in Wal-mart... ok.. small 500 ml thing to drink on the road.

[Jesusabdullah]

But how do you know it's ketchup?

Because it'd say something like, "KaRAYzee Catsup!!" on the bottle. Also, I meant to say, "whackilly-colored mustard." My bad.

[LibertyCabbage]

I wouldn't mind having some black ketchup to go along with my gloomier moods.

[MixedMyth]

djmayhem> ahahaha any dick is finally in rehab!
<RobbyD> Dude ONLY Mayhem could say that
<djmayhem> andy dick.
<djmayhem> I MEANT ANDY DICK

[DJMayhem]

I MEANT ANDY DICK DAMMIT

[Levi-chan]

And you want Andy's dick to be in rehab, WHY?

[DJMayhem]

Goddammit levi, i hate you so much.