The good ole days.

Jackhass · Post by **Jackhass** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:01 pm

What a fool!

Everyone knows the late 80s and early 90s are the "good old days".

Netpoet · Post by **Netpoet** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:11 am

Speaking as someone that remembers the 70's, go screw yourself. :p

Garneta · Post by **Garneta** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:29 am

Pssh...if you remember the 70s, then you weren't really there!

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:45 am

Personally, there isn't a place I'd rather live than right here right now. Fuck the 60's.

Noise Monkey · Post by **Noise Monkey** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:55 am

You sound like the end of Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:08 am

Excellent!

*air guitar*

I dunno, I'm just not about longing for someone else's nostalgia. I'm sure the 60's and 70's were great when they were happening, but I'm tired of using them as a yardstick.

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:50 am

yeahduff wrote:I was talking to this guy the other day and the movie Cast Away came up. So the guy says, "That's back when movies were actually good."

This blew my goddamn mind. I mean, sure, there's plenty of crap out there, and yeah, he's a few years younger than me. But does America's youth really consider 2000 to be the zenith of American culture? Isn't it a little premature to be feeling nostalgia for the days Tom Hanks and Helen Hunt dominated movie screens across the country?

What the fuck?

Pfft. 1999 was the zenith of American culture.

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:59 am

Toxic wrote:
yeahduff wrote:I was talking to this guy the other day and the movie Cast Away came up. So the guy says, "That's back when movies were actually good."

This blew my goddamn mind. I mean, sure, there's plenty of crap out there, and yeah, he's a few years younger than me. But does America's youth really consider 2000 to be the zenith of American culture? Isn't it a little premature to be feeling nostalgia for the days Tom Hanks and Helen Hunt dominated movie screens across the country?

What the fuck?
Pfft. 1999 was the zenith of American culture.

i'm not sure if it's sadder that you said it or that it might be true.

Jim North · Post by **Jim North** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:32 pm

It is the year Fight Club came out, after all.

Tellurider · Post by **Tellurider** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:01 pm

I think that American culture, in general, is sick. There's too much incredibly stupid stuff going on. And while there's always stupid stuff going on, the trouble is that now it seems like THEY (media, government, right-wing nuts, left-wing nuts, elitists, commies, take your pick of shadow group controlling everything) are trying, and succeeding, in force-feeding the stupidity into us so that we are becoming stupid, lazy slobs who think we can get whatever we want just by voting for it.

So according to Heinlein and various other authors, we're going to have a massive cultural meltdown where our very way of life is drastically altered, probably for the worse.

But on the plus side, fewer people are dying of stupid crap like tetanus and gangrene, so technology isn't all bad.

Axonite · Post by **Axonite** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:04 pm

yeahduff wrote:Personally, there isn't a place I'd rather live than right here right now.

I've got some good news for you, then...

[AlmightyPyro] · Post by **[AlmightyPyro]** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:14 pm

The only thing good about the 80's was me.

NakedElf · Post by **NakedElf** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:22 pm

Meh, the economy was pretty good in the 90s. We lost more money than we currently have when the bubble popped.

This is, of course, the 90s in the US. I understand that some other countries had wars in the 90s and that this really sucked.

Robbie · Post by **Robbie** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:33 pm

October 2004 is a month that shall never be improved upon.

Lousy kids.

K-Dawg · Post by **K-Dawg** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:11 am

[AlmightyPyro] wrote:The only thing good about the 80's was me.

LIES!

You were the reason why the 80s were almost destroyed.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:59 pm

yeahduff wrote:Excellent!

*air guitar*

I dunno, I'm just not about longing for someone else's nostalgia. I'm sure the 60's and 70's were great when they were happening, but I'm tired of using them as a yardstick.

I remember one of my friends telling me how cool it would be to live in the 50's with all those classic cars and such. When he couldn't believe why I didn't want to live back then, I told him that people like me were considered substandard during that time.

NakedElf · Post by **NakedElf** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:24 pm

The fifties were pretty damn good overall on the economics front for Americans. If you look at basic stats like distribution of wealth and how many years it would take at average wages to buy an average house, things were better then than they are now. Of course, part of the reason for this was the post-war boom, which was in part created by the rebuilding of Europe/Japan and the fact that all of the factories in those countries had been pretty well demolished. So it was prosperity on the backs of 50 million dead people... Which kind of sucks :P But for the people it benefited (who hadn't started the war in the first place) it was good times.

Of course, it still sucked ass if you were a minority (or female.) I'd wager, though, that even for them things were at least improving on the economic fronts (well, it'd be hard for it to be worse than the Depression.) I also remain unconvinced that at least for black people in the US, things have actually improved as much as we claim they have. I mean, I'd love to believe that we live in a great equal society where everyone can get ahead and has an equal chance and blah blah, but I don't know how much of that is window-dressing and how much of that is just us trying to make ourselves feel good. Does a kid born in Harlem today actually have a better chance at a good life than a kid born in Mississippi in 1940?

I believe things have improved, yes. But I don't know by how much, and I don't think they've improved as much as we'd like to claim.

The 60s and 70s had a bloody sucky war going on. I find it really hard to romanticize a time when people were getting drafted and killed.

Dracomax · Post by **Dracomax** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:46 pm

as for harlem, yes.

a better wuestion would be, would a black kid born in mississippi today have a better chance than the same kid in the 40s.

Jim North · Post by **Jim North** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:50 pm

As a native Mississippian, I would have to say a definite no, but only because no one in Mississippi - black, white, or otherwise - stands much of a chance until they move to a different state.

NakedElf · Post by **NakedElf** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:46 pm

dracomax wrote:as for harlem, yes.

a better wuestion would be, would a black kid born in mississippi today have a better chance than the same kid in the 40s.

Good point.

There may also be demographic shifts to take into account, though. Fewer people in rural areas, more in urban areas, that kind of thing. Maybe we'd find that people in more rural areas are doing better than they were, but people in urban areas have shitty prospects--or vice versa... I don't really have any idea.

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