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Help me with my manga

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ok so long story short i have to learn to use some manga programs for my job. the software is amazingly fun, but i don't really like manga and i have never tried to draw it before.

if you want the whole story, read my other thread

i have been playing around with the software for 3 days now and i started trying to do manga stuff this morning after buying a 'how to draw manga' book last night.

please tell me what you think of the art work because i am not sure if what i think looks good is really good or not, and i know we have some great artist on here that are really into this style.

here goes. here are the three that i did today.

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Looks like you've got some basics down.

I would suggest studying the human form a little better by drawing or even tracing soft core porn photography. This will teach you something of the female figure.

Also, you may want to invest in a subscription of Zoobooks. Sounds cheesy, but learning to draw animals can help immensely in your design of creatures.

Is there a reason the creature's tail is pointing straight down instead of flowing behind it?
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I concur, humans and animals are a great way to learn to draw well. Anime and other cartoons/manga/comics/whathaveyou are more or less a representation of a simplified world. A stick figure is just a simplified human. If you can draw humans well, you can draw simplified humans really well. A parallel would be that if you can do Calculus with ease, Addition is instantaneous.

My question would be... manga program? Is it drawing actual characters, and if so, free-hand or does it have pre-programmed whatzits? Or is it more like taking in pre-drawn art and putting in text boxes, color, assembling panels, etc?
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Freerefill wrote:My question would be... manga program? Is it drawing actual characters, and if so, free-hand or does it have pre-programmed whatzits? Or is it more like taking in pre-drawn art and putting in text boxes, color, assembling panels, etc?
As I understand it, it's basically a drawing program like CorelDraw, Illustrator, but specifically tooled for Manga work... It has half-tone pre-sets, action lines, text bubble pre-sets, etc. I know a lot of professional illustrators who've had a look at it, but none who give it more than, say, three out of five stars. They say it's just too complicated to use and too limited in scope.

Halo...

I posted in your other thread, and, in books, I'll add some stuff here. I do like the "How to Draw Manga" books, and I've bought most of them... But I haven't worked through them yet...

And that's the key with books like these. Work through them as if they were text books. They other key with drawing, of course, is to draw. A lot. As in every day. Simple as it is, that's the step where most people fall flat on their faces. They stick to drawing a single figure, full front, same pose, every few days at most. You can't go far wrong by picking a person doing a thing, at random, every day, and drawing that in the style you're working on... You see a girl on a cell phone from 3/4, walking away... Go back to the office and draw her, manga style. Next day, an old man, 1/4 profile, sitting on a bench and feeding pigeons, and you see him from a slightly elevated vantage point... Now go back to the office and draw it.

Another set of books to have are, basically, all of them by Jack Hamm. He has a "how to draw animals" book, a "people" book, a "cartooning" book, and a "landscape" book... They cost about $7 or 9 each, and they are chock full of excellent step-by-step exercises and shortcuts. Excellent foundation work... And once you have a strong foundation, any specific style is just a matter of tuning.
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the Manga Studio product page, in case anyone wants to have a look...


http://www.e-frontier.com/go/products/mangastudio
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we have the Debut edition.

i honestly am really starting to enjoy the software.

most of the time image software are ether too limiting or to hard to use for me. I am sure i could figure most of them out if i spent enough time with it, but i honestly have no attention span when it comes to stuff like that. If i can't figure out how to do something cool within the first 10 minutes with a program i am most likely not going to pick it up again.

I can't wait till i am teaching the camp next summer and i can get a look at what people who actually know what they are doing can make.

i didn't have much time to work on this stuff today but here is what i did.
i think these are worse than the ones i did Friday.

(they are characters from my web comic BTW)

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they may suck now, but i am having fun with this and i don't intend to stop anytime soon.

also...tried Anime Studio today and i thought it suck balls. I would rather have a buffalo take a dieareha dump in my ear than use that software again. not only was it a bitch to use, but you can't import stuff from manga studio into it and animate it (even though they are made by the same company) (unless you want to do it frame by frame). If i wanted to do frame by frame i would have just used flash. It works better and i easier to use.

you can import stuff from Poser however so perhaps it won't be as sucktacular if it is use with that program.

as it is i think we just wanted something that anime studio just wansn't made to do. Oh well, it isn't like i paid for it.

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here is today's pic.

i am actually rather happy with this one.

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I like it too, it's certainly an improvement over the prior pictures! :D
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