Regrets

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:19 pm

nick012000 wrote:Well, he might have had a relationship with his daughter, even if he didn't have one with the mother.

................that just sounds wrong!

EdBecerra · Post by **EdBecerra** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:13 pm

StrangeWulf13 wrote:*grumblemutterswear* Not all fantasy characters jump in the sack when they have to say goodbye, and not everyone is afraid of dying a virgin...

Yes, it's sad that not everyone is bright enough to be afraid when they should be.

I'm quite sincere in believing that if there ISN'T a special hell reserved for virgins, then there should be one. (We'll make exceptions for *ugly* virgins - until we invent cheap nanotanks so that everyone, however poor, can look like gods and goddesses...)

Eh? What's that? Shallow and sexually obsessed? You say that as if it were a BAD thing...

Now if we could just DESIGN the perfect mate... Of course, then we get into all those ugly issues of mind control, slavery, and genetic engineering.

Pity..

Then again, I was raised in a culture where we were told "If the ARRRR-MY wanted you to have a wife, boy, the ARRRRR-MY would ISSUE you a wife from supply, DAMMIT!"

So my outlook on the matter is probably warped.

Rokas · Post by **Rokas** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:24 pm

Madmoonie wrote:
Chaser617 wrote:Then there are us people who are complete and utter romantics at heart that beleive that he should find love
*raises mug

Hear, hear!

ARRR! I mean, aye!

<- Shameless romantic.

(And that doesn't always mean seduction; read your history sometime. ;p )

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:39 pm

Don't get me wrong. I would be thrilled for Quentyn to find (and keep) the love of his life. I'm just recognizing how bad the odds will be for him.

But as I said, beating the odds is his stock in trade.

Quentyn's wife should fit one of two concepts:

1) Business partner. Perhaps not a questor herself, but active and intelligent enough to go along on assignments. She'd need to hold her own in most situations. An interesting counterpoint would be if she were a talented lux user. (No, I do not mean Nessie, not if kenning is her best skill!)

2) Home base. This wife would more likely stay home and give Quentyn a stable place to work from. Additional support could be provided from (book) research and PR work. Craft skills to make and maintain useful equipment would be valuable, too.

Rokas · Post by **Rokas** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:50 pm

Earl McClaw wrote:2) Home base. This wife would more likely stay home and give Quentyn a stable place to work from. Additional support could be provided from (book) research and PR work. Craft skills to make and maintain useful equipment would be valuable, too.

*CoughKescough*

Ah, well, we'll just have to wait an' see, now won't we?

RedSquirrel456 · Post by **RedSquirrel456** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:29 pm

I actually think the story is better when the hero doesn't really "get the girl." I see so much of that and I wonder... well, heck, would Quentyn himself want a loving wife or anything of the sort? Paul never got married for the benefit of his ministry; his was a lifetime commitment. It seems like Quentyn would (at this point in life, and maybe even later) be just as infatuated with his job, and far more than chasing after the girl of his dreams (which Kes apparently is not). His religious devotion makes it seem to me like he doesn't need an emotional anchor at home... his emotional anchor travels with him wherever he goes!

And this guy does have a good chance of living over two hundred years. There seems to be plenty of time left for this lady killer.

Dark-Star · Post by **Dark-Star** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:30 am

Well...I dunno...

You're right, Kes wasn't there for Q when he was used for a wight's chewtoy, and those other occasions as well. I can't say she made a real effort - a goodbye kiss would indeed be 'too little, too late'.

The swamp chief's daughter isn't old enough -yet-; but it could quite possibly take Q several years to complete his mission (if he does - it's quite possible at least 1 artifact has been destroyed, say melted down for it's precious metal content)
Anyway, don't discount her. Hero worship is a strong motive, and Q might go for her because she is a lux prodigy and he just plain bites at luxcraft. Sorry, Q, but that black ribbon...

Part of me says, "Yeah! Go! You don't -need- a girl! You're a big, strong adventurer!"

...But the other half wants to slap me good and hard. "Why you insensitive dirtball! How can you say that?"

*sigh* Well, sorry for writing out a personal struggle, but you get the point.

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:46 pm

Dark-Star wrote:...but it could quite possibly take Q several years to complete his mission (if he does - it's quite possible at least 1 artifact has been destroyed, say melted down for it's precious metal content)

I couldn't find any specifics, but I'd say if Quentyn could "account for" an artifact (i.e. provide sufficient proof that it had been destroyed or irretrievably lost) he wouldn't be required to bring it back.

DracoDei · Post by **DracoDei** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:19 pm

Rokas wrote: And the old Quentyn might've been a rogue, but somethin' makes me wonder 'bout that, since he obviously went out on a near-suicidal quest of his own (hence new Quentyn's perdicament [And yes, I know that I cannot spell]).

1.) Bravery and honesty in business are not necessarily always linked to other virtuous behaviors. However, independant of this I still think that Quentin of Ridgedale was probably a pretty upstanding Rac Conan Daimh.

2.) It WASN'T suicidal (well, OK, for the viewpoint of known history it was probably fatal, but that is beside the point). Back then the factions and cultures of humans were reasonably well known, and the trail of the artifacts was MUCH MUCH less cold. With the poor relations between humans and Rac Conan Daimh's (which is why the trading was being stopped in the first place at that time) it wouldn't have been a cake-walk, but neither was it suicidal.

Wanderwolf · Post by **Wanderwolf** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:01 am

In the first place, who says they don't hook up. All the page gave us was that they don't hook up now. "Not no! Just not now!"

Second...

Madmoonie wrote:
Rokas wrote:Possibly one of the saddest comics I've read in a long while.
Gonna have to agree with that.

Rokas wrote:What was that quote? "'Tis btter to have loved, and then lost, than to have never loved at all."
That, however, is a load of garbage. Breaking up hurt. A lot. But that is beside the point.

It is really said, I must agree. I can only hope Quentyn will happy in love at sometime in his life.

The quote in question is from Tennyson's "In Memoriam:27". The poem runs as follows:

I envy not in any moods
The captive void of noble rage,
The linnet born within the cage,
That never knew the summer woods:

I envy not the beast that takes
His license in the field of time,
Unfetter'd by the sense of crime,
To whom a conscience never wakes;

Nor, what may count itself as blest,
The heart that never plighted troth
But stagnates in the weeds of sloth;
Nor any want-begotten rest.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

Yours truly,

The poetic,

Wanderer

Persephone_Kore · Post by **Persephone_Kore** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:15 pm

It actually seems to me that what Quentyn says about Kes makes it unlikely that, at the time he's narrating from, he has gotten together long-term with anyone else. "What might have been" and "Ah, regrets" don't quite strike me as things Quentyn would say about a romantic prospect that didn't pan out if he's currently married or at least in love with another.