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TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:54 am

yeahduff wrote:I miss talking about this boring crap with people.

Wow, it has been a while, hasn't it?

Birdie · Post by **Birdie** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:17 am

Do you know what's really cheap? People who use pencils/pens/paper that was premade before them. you should chop your own tree down, drill for your own ink or dig for your own lead then make your art that way!

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:19 am

I use my own poop. It's been working so far.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:42 am

I use my own hair and glue made from my fingernails.

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:28 am

i'm thinking about drawing with my own blood. Though that does make me limited in how much i can draw in a day.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:20 am

Meh. And you call yourself an artist. True artists are used to being all woozy.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:45 pm

Uh... you guys are repeating what's been said two pages ago...

You sound a little like Oldenberg there. Cool.

You and your Oldenburg. But then again, how cool is it, making giant plush toys of typewriter and such stuff...

Hm. You know, as I thought about that, I tried to remember Duchamp's connection with the Dadaists, and I assumed I just forgot what it was, but I think you're right. He had nothing to do with them but some people just loop him up with them. So yeah, I think his most important work could be called proto-Pop.

Yeah, technically, Duchamp was all over the place and there wasn't a movement that didn't want to call him theirs. One of the most ridiculous courses of events, his "Nude descending a staircase" singlehandedly revolutionized American art and inspired abstract expressionism, and then his later works inspired Pop art, which was created as a countermovement to abstract expressionism.

I miss talking about this boring crap with people.

Say, did you notice Tom Wesselman's picture in the corner somewhere on that guest comic of mine?

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:37 pm

Forgot all about Tom Wesselman. That weirdo. Had you put one of his paintings on that page, I'm pretty sure I'd of noticed.

You and your Oldenburg. But then again, how cool is it, making giant plush toys of typewriter and such stuff...

Me and my misspelling his name. But he's just so goofy, and so awesome. We'd have much cooler cities on this planet if we allowed him to get his hands on our skylines.

But Ekshin's style sorta reminded my of an essay Oldenburg wrote. Been years since I've read it, so I might be imagining it.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:43 pm

yeahduff wrote:Forgot all about Tom Wesselman. That weirdo. Had you put one of his paintings on that page, I'm pretty sure I'd of noticed.

Well, he's in the corner, half-covered by a speech bubble... the orange and the ashtray...

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:53 pm

Ahhhh...... Don't recognize the specific work, but, heh, cool.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:21 pm

This one, hopefully.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:43 pm

Heh. Now I see it. Thought it was a simple still life. What the hell is Charles doing with that?

By the way, some guy wrote me and said you're cool. So you know.

Unsurprisingly, I think we've bored everyone else here.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:10 pm

Still life with a boob.

By the way, some guy wrote me and said you're cool. So you know.

Ooo. Nice!

Unsurprisingly, I think we've bored everyone else here.

With four threads about superheroes and who knows for many threads about games in OT, I don't think that anyone has right to complain.

Ideal Comics · Post by **Ideal Comics** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:15 pm

Hey, now, don't you think Roy Nixon counts as a super-hero?

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Depends on perspective, eh?

Ideal Comics · Post by **Ideal Comics** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:45 pm

touche'

But I suppose the real question is not of of perspective but of definition. Does the parody of a genre fit within the confines of that genre?

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:41 am

I never thought it did, really, I always thought that parody is a genre of itself.
For instance, "Blazing saddles" is often considered a highest grossing western of all times. That just sounds kind of... ridiculous.

But then, I didn't think of Roy Nixon as a parody either. It was just... a funny idea... perhaps a comment on how fragile definition of superheroes is...

Dammit, stop talking about this now!

Mo · Post by Mo » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:41 am

ROY NIXON ONCE TOLD ME WHAT TIME IT WAS! MY HERO! <3

But yeah, I'd consider parody a genre of its own, but that would be pure parody only... there are comics that have parodistic scenes/elements (like RPG World.), but I still wouldn't call them pure parody comics.

Ideal Comics · Post by **Ideal Comics** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:32 am

mcDuffies wrote:
Dammit, stop talking about this now!

Sorry, no can do. Old skool super-hero fan.

Anyhow, I would cartainly say that a paradoy can be part of a parodied genre, but not necesarily. I think it depends on whether the parody does in fact, and independantly, meet the criteria of the genre. Mystery Men for example was about superpowered or trained individuals making sacrifices to defeat a common adversary and 'save the day'; and while it spent a great deal of the time poking fun at the stereo types, the narrative still adheres to the basic themes.

But then, look at Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, which had the tone and many elements of the film noir and crime drama, but was so over the top, that it was not noirish at all, but a skillful comedy, complete with overly happy ending. It was almost an anti-noir.

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:43 am

I'd say inclusion of parody in the parodied genre is contingent on the level of parody. A few elements here and there and you could include it, the whole thing being parody, not really. If the parody affects how a basic description of the plot reads, then you've crossed out of the genre and into the parody genre.

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