Link to Page not working.

Caster13 · Post by **Caster13** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 1:12 am

Can it either be with the forward slash ( a href="/cast.html" ) or without the slash ( a href="cast.html" ) ?-Caster13[This message has been edited by Caster13 (edited 08-15-2000).]

Caster13 · Post by **Caster13** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 2:15 am

Anyway, I tried pretty much every every possible link thingy and it still doesn't work.I have cast.html in /workspace/webpages/ but it gives me a 404 Page not found error.-Caster------------------

Josh Phillips · Post by **Josh Phillips** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 2:43 am

Here's the long version...You have a public_html directory (I assume). Everything you see on the web is relative to that directory. For example, public_html/index.html gives you http://www.foo.com/index.html. And public_html/links/index.html gives you http://www.foo.com/links/index.html.Now, there are two different types of links in a web page: absolute and relative. They mean exactly what your dictionary tells you...

That is, an absolute link is something like http://www.foo.com/index.html. Notice all the http://... stuff; since you have all that web mumbo-jumbo there, that link will work no matter where you are on the web.Now, relative linking is a different beast... it means that the link goes somewhere based upon where you already are. A relative link only consists of something like bar.html. If you're looking at http://www.foo.com/index.html and you click that link, you'll go to http://www.foo.com/bar.html. If you're at http://www.foo.com/links/index.html and click the link, you'll go to http://www.foo.com/links/bar.html. So really, your browser fills in the http://... for you. Of course, the big problem here is that you must know where you are in a site before you link from it to use relative linking properly.Now, here's one more little trick. I think this is relative linking, but I can't be sure... if you put a slash before your relative link (ie. /bar.html), that means it's relative to public_html. So no matter where you are in your site, clicking on /bar.html will go to http://www.foo.com/bar.html. Clicking on /links/bar.html goes to http://www.foo.com/links/bar.html.Now, does any of that make sense?

As you may have noticed, relative linking is nice if you change domain names at some point... simply because you're not hard-coding a domain name into your links. The domain is pasted in automatically by the web browser.And I always recommend using that semi-relative form (with the slash in front), because then you can just copy and paste menu bars and blocks of links, and they'll work no matter what page they're in (they're all just relative to the base public_html directory).And as a final note... always use forward slashes ("/")in HTML! Don't use backslashes ("").JOSH.
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Tirdun · Post by **Tirdun** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:17 am

And always be case sensitive, although some systems don't care, it's a good idea to always use lowercase, with no special characters. After you've beaten your head into a desk for half an hour trying to figure out why Newpage.html won't load, you'll understand.------------------
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Caster13 · Post by **Caster13** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:26 am

Woot!Thanks for the info! It's somewhat confusing in itself but after reading it through a couple of times it actually makes some sense.Though I haven't updated yet so I can't tell whether or not it's working.Thanks!-Caster------------------
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Josh Phillips · Post by **Josh Phillips** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 4:09 am

Also, don't use spaces in your filenames. That's one of those annoying things that work in IE but not Netscape, so you could be screwing over a bunch of readers and not even realize it.Hey, I never knew about this newsgroup before. Cool.

If anyone needs any HTML help (or JavaScript, or CGI/Perl, or Java, or Intel-x86/Z80 Assembly, etc.) you can e-mail me. I always enjoy helping people get past stupid HTML annoyances...But all this Keenspace-specific infrastructure is weird. :-/ Your system frightens and confuses me...(UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER!)JOSH.
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Caster13 · Post by **Caster13** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 4:33 am

Woot! Got it working! After all this time!You know what I did wrong? I did a index.html update instead of a FULL update... Oh dummy me.Go check it out. My cast page is up, you wont see any comics but you'll see who's in them.-Caster------------------
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Caster13 · Post by **Caster13** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:18 am

Okay, I'm having a problem here. I can't seem to link my index page to my cast of characters page.I have cast.html in workspace/webpages/Okay, in my indextemplate.html file I have the link:a href="/workspace/webpages/cast.html"> Cast of Characters </a
But that code doesn't work and it leads to some empty page.How is the link suppose to be?
a href="/workspace/webpages/cast.html
a href ="/webpages/cast.html
or
a href="cast.htmlAny help would be great about now. Thanks.
-Caster
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Morten B. Helland · Post by **Morten B. Helland** » Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:40 am

The code in the HTML should just be the document-relative-link <a href="cast.html">Cast Of Characters</a> or the server-relative-link <a href="/cast.html">Cast Of Characters</a> since the stuff in the workspace/webpages-folder get moved to the root of the public-html-folder.------------------
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Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 10:36 am

i think its case sensitive here b/c once i linked my cast pages as /cast.html but it was named Cast.html and it didn't work

ZOMBIE USER 10799 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 10799** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 12:05 pm

yes it should be /cast.html
i made that mistake myself, before Atrus corrected me }:) always assume that you're using Unix or some case sensitive platform and you won't regret it
also make sure you use .html consistantly instead of .htm sometimes
finally don't use full update unless all else fails, usually a REGULAR update works beautifully, just remember getting out of the waiting queue can sometimes take up to an hour and a half