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Team America was actually pretty clear on which side it came down on, it was right there in the dicks-pussies-and-assholes speech at the end (the "yeah we're dicks and we might not always be right, but this time the pussies are so full of shit they might as well be assholes" bit), it's just that many people find the message so far outside of conventional wisdom or so uncompelling that it's easier to pretend it wasn't there at all. I liked it quite a bit, but it left kind of an empty feeling because the themes they were chasing didn't mesh very well. I can't imagine that they could have done a better job spoofing retarded Hollywood blockbusters and making hay out of global politics at the same time but each side detracted from the other.
For me the big flaw was the gruesome deaths of the celebrity puppets, which derailed everything they'd done with them up to that point. One could argue that was the point, but Trey and Matt have always come off as pretty sincere about how much they hate celebrities.
The Kim Jong Il puppet was awesome.
For me the big flaw was the gruesome deaths of the celebrity puppets, which derailed everything they'd done with them up to that point. One could argue that was the point, but Trey and Matt have always come off as pretty sincere about how much they hate celebrities.
The Kim Jong Il puppet was awesome.
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Re: NO WAI!
But I knew that you knew that I didnt know that sprow didnt know that I knew that I didnt know you knew that you know that I dindt know that you knew I DID know all along.Black Sparrow wrote:You mean you don't?Cope wrote:I KNEW IT.
Did you know that?
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Hee hee! "But."
Right now I feel like I could know everything but that.
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Actually, I think it's because:Sortelli wrote:Team America was actually pretty clear on which side it came down on, it was right there in the dicks-pussies-and-assholes speech at the end (the "yeah we're dicks and we might not always be right, but this time the pussies are so full of shit they might as well be assholes" bit), it's just that many people find the message so far outside of conventional wisdom or so uncompelling that it's easier to pretend it wasn't there at all.
I was never clear on whether that speech was a heavy satire, or serious message told with their sensibility, or they just wrote something that sounded cool without thinking about it... So I assumed it was third.Some times, you really don't know whether something was ment to be serious melodrama or just an unsuccesful joke.
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Re: Hee hee! "But."
But knowing that, IS knowing every thing.Cope wrote:Right now I feel like I could know everything but that.
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WEEHEEHEE THERE GOES MY BRAIN RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WEHEEHEEHEEDave Against The Machine wrote:But knowing that, IS knowing every thing.Cope wrote:Right now I feel like I could know everything but that.
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Destroy the monster!
Dave us starting to sound like the Snoo.Cope wrote:WEEHEEHEE THERE GOES MY BRAIN RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WEHEEHEEHEEDave Against The Machine wrote:But knowing that, IS knowing every thing.Cope wrote:Right now I feel like I could know everything but that.
Quick, get the murderous mob pitchforks and torches.
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KILL IT WITH KINDNESS! And garden tools.
I'll prepare the tar and feathers.
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They didn't one-up the guy after he made the speech, they killed Arec Bardwin and revealed Kim Jong Ill to be an evil space cockroach. If they had intended that speech to be self-defeating they would have had the Team America guy be the one who lost after making it instead of his opponents, or at least countered the point he made somehow.mcDuffies wrote:I was never clear on whether that speech was a heavy satire, or serious message told with their sensibility, or they just wrote something that sounded cool without thinking about it... So I assumed it was third.
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Possibly, but they often retreat to melodrama or happy ending for the kicks of it, even when they fail to be funny. Many South Park episodes end up with those thoughtful speechs and other films of their end up with moral redeeming of main characters, and yet it's obvious that those aren't their real messages (being that they're usually too mundane and predictable).Sortelli wrote:They didn't one-up the guy after he made the speech, they killed Arec Bardwin and revealed Kim Jong Ill to be an evil space cockroach. If they had intended that speech to be self-defeating they would have had the Team America guy be the one who lost after making it instead of his opponents, or at least countered the point he made somehow.mcDuffies wrote:I was never clear on whether that speech was a heavy satire, or serious message told with their sensibility, or they just wrote something that sounded cool without thinking about it... So I assumed it was third.
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I don't actually think they're that subtle, myself. Their problem's always been going too far.mcDuffies wrote:Possibly, but they often retreat to melodrama or happy ending for the kicks of it, even when they fail to be funny. Many South Park episodes end up with those thoughtful speechs and other films of their end up with moral redeeming of main characters, and yet it's obvious that those aren't their real messages (being that they're usually too mundane and predictable).
I have to admit I haven't been keeping up with them lately though. The outrageousness lost its charm to me a long time ago.
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When I step into a movie theatre, I try to put all my criticism and thinkyness aside, and just get swept up in the experience. To be honest, there I are very few movies--even crappy ones with cliched plots or bad acting-- that I don't enjoy this way.rkolter wrote:Kat North wrote:I usually don't try to think about intent and purpose of a lot of movies. I just ask one question. Did it entertain me?


















