Fear the Evil.

Shishio · Post by **Shishio** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:42 pm

Perhaps you remember that when I first registered here, I made a thread asking about where to hire an artist for a webcomic, and what a fair amount to pay them would be.

In that thread, a number of you suggested that I would be better off to illustrate my webcomic myself, and that "it isn't that hard to learn how to draw".

I know this probably comes off as sounding really snarky, but it's not meant to be. (Well, only a little, since "it isn't that hard to learn how to draw" is a statement I disagree with very strongly. It may be true for some people, but it certainly isn't for me. I spent years practicing drawing, by the way.)

Of course, I could have said all of this then, but I didn't have any proof of my lack of ability on hand. Now I do.

I should warn you that the link I have included will direct you to the most horrible thing you have ever seen, and that gazing upon such evil may cause blindness, insanity, and explosive diarrhea among other things, and that by clicking the link you state that you have read my warning, but have chosen to ignore it at your own peril, and that you waive all rights to sue or otherwise prosecute me.

Look. If you dare.

Escushion · Post by **Escushion** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:50 pm

You're expecting it to happy instantly. You have to work at it.

Mark Shallow 2000

Mark Shallow 2006

Jackhass · Post by **Jackhass** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:25 pm

Come on now...you're not even trying.

The Snoo · Post by **The Snoo** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:28 pm

I will say that his style has some very solid underlying structures to it, and it completely lacks any kind of polish. Get a can of brasso and start workin it.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:29 pm

It is hard to learn to draw- but most things in life that are worth doing are.

Shishio · Post by **Shishio** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:36 pm

Escushion: I am not expecting to instantly gain artistic talent. As I said in the first post, I practiced drawing for years. (And any improvement I made, was so minor it was almost insignificant.)

Jackhass: You're right, I'm not. But oddly enough, had I tried, it probably would have turned out even worse. They're only layouts to give the artist I am working with an idea of what I'm trying to convey with my scripts.

Princess: That is what I'm trying to prove.

Escushion · Post by **Escushion** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:38 pm

Shishio wrote:Jackhass: You're right, I'm not.

All said and done right there.

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:41 pm

The Snoo's right. This is solid. It could use some detail work, but you've got a good start.

And frankly, I've seen much worse here on Comic Genesis.

Yeah, drawing well takes years and years and years. A couple months isn't going to do much. But I stand by the fact that, if you stick with it long enough, it gets REALLY satisfying. You look back on your old stuff and think "I can't believe I used to draw like that!" It's a good feeling, knowing your hard work is paying off.

A key to improvement is feedback. Ask for critiques. And use sources to learn to draw realistically. Doodling alone won't do it unless you have someone to point out mistakes.

War · Post by **War** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:09 pm

A little more work and you'll be on par with me, aged 5.

Glarryg · Post by **Glarryg** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:12 pm

Yeah, I've seen much, much worse with no regard to just how bad the art is. The fact that you have a basic notion of composition says more than you think it does. Keep working, and you'll eventually get better. An important thing to do is to get comfortable with your work; once you reach that point, improving will be easier (and, to an extent, unconscious).

Glarryg

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:20 pm

Black Sparrow wrote:And frankly, I've seen much worse here on Comic Genesis.

Yeah, seriously -- at least your comic isn't catboys the size of five screen-widths, the way so much of the crap on CG is.

Also, this is an irritating cry for attention, and I'm not sure why I'm responding to it.

Mr.Bob · Post by **Mr.Bob** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:16 pm

War wrote:A little more work and you'll be on par with me, aged 5.

Hahaha

Stop being cruel and just kill someone or not!

Blackaby · Post by **Blackaby** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:02 pm

Dude, you're totally more crap at art that me. That's AWESOME.

The Neko · Post by **The Neko** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:11 am

Gaining value as a human being by making other people feel better by comparison.

K-Dawg · Post by **K-Dawg** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:17 am

Keffria wrote:
Black Sparrow wrote:And frankly, I've seen much worse here on Comic Genesis.
Yeah, seriously -- at least your comic isn't catboys the size of five screen-widths, the way so much of the crap on CG is.

Also, this is an irritating cry for attention, and I'm not sure why I'm responding to it.

...are you insulting my catboy comic?

The Neko · Post by **The Neko** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:20 am

Keffria wrote: Also, this is an irritating cry for attention, and I'm not sure why I'm responding to it.

Self-Justification Man™ says, "You're not replying to the cry for attention in the first post, you're replying to the people who are replying. It's fundamentally different."

This has been another episode of THE ADVENTURES OF SELF-JUSTIFICATION MAN™!

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:21 pm

The Neko wrote:
Keffria wrote:Also, this is an irritating cry for attention, and I'm not sure why I'm responding to it.
Self-Justification Man™ says, "You're not replying to the cry for attention in the first post, you're replying to the people who are replying. It's fundamentally different."

This has been another episode of THE ADVENTURES OF SELF-JUSTIFICATION MAN™!

Wow, thank you, Self-Justification Man™! You're my favourite super hero -- you have no idea how many morally suspect things you've eased my conscience over!

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:08 pm

K-Dawg wrote:
Keffria wrote:
Black Sparrow wrote:And frankly, I've seen much worse here on Comic Genesis.
Yeah, seriously -- at least your comic isn't catboys the size of five screen-widths, the way so much of the crap on CG is.

Also, this is an irritating cry for attention, and I'm not sure why I'm responding to it.
...are you insulting my catboy comic?

... You have a catboy comic? I thought I was the one with the catboy comic around here!

The Snoo · Post by **The Snoo** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:38 pm

I don't have a catboy comic. I feel leftout.

[AlmightyPyro] · Post by **[AlmightyPyro]** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:48 pm

The Snoo wrote:I don't have a catboy comic. I feel leftout.

It's easy! 12 year old school girls do it all the time! All you need is tracing paper and a popular comic with a catboy in it and off you go!