Jack appears!

CyberCorn Entropic · Post by **CyberCorn Entropic** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:57 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shad:
Still, I have to say that the kid got what he earned, although I don't think Jack might be the only version though, I bet you that furries who do the same thing to humans would probably get some human version of death.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I've always considered Jack not as Death but more as an assistant, especially considering that I was influenced by Piers Anthony's "Incarnations of Immortality" series. The first book, On a Pale Horse dealt with the Incarnation of Death (the other Incarnations, one each to the other six books, were Time, Fate, War, Nature, Evil, and Good).
Essentially, Death was an office held by a mortal (who became immortal as long as he was wearing the symbols of his office) who only really needed to appear at someone's death to free their soul when said soul was very close to a balance of good and evil (thanks to the concept of original sin, this often included babies) as most souls didn't need any help finding their way to their appropriate places for eternity. Death appeared as the classic Grim Reaper thanks to his magic, impenetrable cloak, gloves, and boots and used his hands to yank souls out of dying bodies rather than the swithblade scythe which was more useful as a weapon. One got to be Death by killing the previous officeholder (which only happened through carelessness on the predecessor's part) and was unkillable for a grace period while he learned his job (he was unkillable because he was still balanced between good and evil; ergo, his soul had to be collected by Death and since he was Death, he'd have to collect his own soul, which really was kind of paradoxical).
By the way, "Incarnations of Immortality" is also not for everyone (less so than "Jack") as there are a number of adult situations, especially when one gets to book four and on.------------------
"Do you know where a Mister Riviera is?"
"Depends. Does he owe you money?"
"No."
"Then he is me."
"In that case, you owe me a bottle of Polyhex Energon Chaser and a copy of last year's Who's Who Among People You Don't Know."[This message has been edited by CyberCorn Entropic (edited 12-29-2001).]

Jen Aside · Post by **Jen Aside** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:04 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
Depends on what you were laughing at...
If it was the youngster's predicament -
having to deal with not only the finality of
his own death but that the being that he
has to face in death is the exact category
of being he hated while he was alive, then
maybe you just enjoy such elemental ironies...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>...oh.I suppose I momentarily thought of the "I remembered this funny joke while I was at a funeral and laughed out loud, and now everyone thinks I'm a horrible person" kind of effect... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif">I laughed because, "Hey, it's Jack!" <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:17 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheRedWolf:
I'm reading the Jack archives and just got around the parts where gene appears... and he draws you real wierd!!!! but it's still a fun comic. now I'm reading 6 or 7 webcomics! AAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh, come on! I read 25 comics. One (Cool Cat Studio) is in hiatus and 15 are at least 5 days a week. It's not that much, I can read them all in a monday during quick 10 or 15 minutes.
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TheRedWolf · Post by **TheRedWolf** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:50 am

oh my!and I thought people thought I was wierd about it!!!! hehe <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">also, I just noticed something, and I HAVE to ask, is the kid real small, or is Jack just extremely large?

JennBunny · Post by **JennBunny** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:54 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Somethin' was said 'bout revealing the shodow creatures <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
 Don't worry, it will...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yay! =:0D[This message has been edited by JennBunny (edited 12-29-2001).]

Shad · Post by **Shad** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:33 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheRedWolf:
oh my!and I thought people thought I was wierd about it!!!! hehe <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... OTE>Hmm, I read lotsa comics too, more than 7, lets see, there's This, The class menagerie, funny farm, freefall, nukees, CRFH, newshounds, ozy and millie, sabrina online, spellshocked, mynarski forest, alien dice, rpg world, 8-bit theatre, adventurers, and farmboy. I think thats all of them, 16!

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:08 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mokonapuff:
 ::huge fanged grin:: But you dunno whether I set it to live or not, so that just adds to the suspense, ne? ~_^<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And I have no intention of ever finding out!
O_O
What makes it unnerving is, my intentions
don't make a bit of difference... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/eek.gif">

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:12 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by tigerjuice:
oh, okay, that just *@#'n rules.RAWK! albert!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I really consider it an honor that I have so
many creative people I know whose characters
work so well when they allow me to borrow
them. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Mokonapuff · Post by **Mokonapuff** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:19 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
 And I have no intention of ever finding out!
O_O
What makes it unnerving is, my intentions
don't make a bit of difference... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/eek.gif">
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>::grins innocently/evilly as Gene's laptop jumps a couple of times, as if something's trying to get out:: Hehehehe....On the good side, be glad I didn't draw the Weiss assassins and tell them you worked for Reiji Takatori or Schwartz! Or on the flip side, draw Schwartz and tell them you were on Weiss' side. ::cackles:: Or I coulda just used Farfarello, told him your beliefs, and let him go for it! ::evilly psychotic grin, tilts her head to the left and looks like she's thinking hard::Or I coulda done Legato Bluesummers and told him you were an ally of Vash the Stampede...I could draw Sesshoumaru and tell him you were a friend of his "useless halfbreed brother" Inu-Yasha, or a human symapthizer.......Or maybe Muraki Kazutaka, and tell him you're a friend of Tsuzuki's. ::EVIL cackle:: Now THAT would have proved interesting....::rattling off other characters she could use for torture:: Rosiel, Fuuma Munou, Seishirou, Kougaji, Naaza, you remember him don't you?, Tatsumi (AKA "The Secretary From Hell)....Ooooo, the possibilities!!! ^_________________________________^

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:25 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jen Aside:
 ...oh.I suppose I momentarily thought of the "I remembered this funny joke while I was at a funeral and laughed out loud, and now everyone thinks I'm a horrible person" kind of effect... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif">I laughed because, "Hey, it's Jack!" <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin ... BLOCKQUOTE>
I wouldn't have thought you were a horrible
person until you described exactly what it
was that made you laugh. Maybe it was the
surprise of seeing Jack, maybe it was the
irony, maybe you thought I'd done a wonky job
of depicting the afterlife, I dunno. Doing
the comic is a real kick for me, very often
it's more of a learning experience to see what
the reader's reactions are than anything else.
<IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
 Oh, I suppose that's just because Steven pro'lly had so-called "bad influences" as friends in his childhood. And since Alan is very busy with his enterprise and his semi-secret furry hate providences, he couldn't take care of his son. Fortunately, I'd say.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The younger Avariss grew up in the shadow of
his father, and put up with everything the
family name brought with it until he couldn't
stand it any more. The elder Avariss did try
to bring up his son (some ways being the right
ways, most being the wrong ways) and he does
want his son back, but on *his* terms.

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mokonapuff:
 Hn....I see your point there. I take it back then, I don't feel sorry for him at all. I could use the excuse that he was like the Seven Seals and the Seven Harbringers from the manga X because they at first gave the illusion that at least three or four of the members had choices in whether to get involved or not, but that doesn't work, since the main tagline of the entire series is "Their destiny was foreordained"
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The way these three troublemakers worked, they
were primarily made bolder than normal by the
corporate blessing of Michael A. to undertake
their plot. But it would not have taken much
to get them to cause some trouble on their
own. That's what I hoped to evince in their
behavior, their almost cult-like hatred of
furry society as something to be attacked, at
the cost of their own lives if necessary. It
isn't easy to pay someone to be suicidal...
but if that someone is already consumed with
the madness of hate, it might only have taken
Avariss' blessing (and the dissemenation of
the word that they had given their lives in
the pursuit of 'human purity') for them to
have eagerly done what they did. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Ohhh...and I see you got my e-mail....::snickers:: Enjoy, fuzzball! ^_~ Meanwhile, I've got artwork to catch up on. : <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/tongue.gif">ulls out her pad and starts sketching, humming "Quickbeat"::[This message has been edited by Mokonapuff (edited 12-29-2001).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aaaack... yes, I got your e-mail! How in the
world do you expect me to use that laptop now
when just opening it might cause that image
to... O_O

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:50 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
it's more of a learning experience to see what
the reader's reactions are than anything else.
<IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Since I didn't know Jack and I had not noticed the

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by CyberCorn Entropic:
 I've always considered Jack not as Death but more as an assistant, especially considering that I was influenced by Piers Anthony's "Incarnations of Immortality" series. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
(Hey, I read the first of those, too)
I sort of see Jack as a facilitator of souls
once they no longer have their living host to
inhabit; i.e. the holder of the job title
'Death' so to speak. Since it's been made
clear in the time/space continuum of the
world upon which Furriston, Bridgeway, etc.
are found that the soul does go on after the
body dies, the position Jack holds might be
held by different beings over a period of
time, just as in the Piers Anthony books. But
Jack, as Pepe envisions him, is dead on the
money. (pun intended) <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Tigerjuice · Post by **Tigerjuice** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 7:37 am

oh, okay, that just *@#'n rules.RAWK! albert!

Shad · Post by **Shad** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 8:06 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
Ne! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... UOTE>no no no, it's NI!

C Eagle · Post by **C Eagle** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:54 am

Here's another one for your list Ekevu, but it's worth it..bucklescomic.com:>

Mokonapuff · Post by **Mokonapuff** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
 Aaaack... yes, I got your e-mail! How in the
world do you expect me to use that laptop now
when just opening it might cause that image
to... O_O
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>::huge fanged grin:: But you dunno whether I set it to live or not, so that just adds to the suspense, ne? ~_^

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:55 am

Ne! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Shad · Post by **Shad** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:04 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Alfador:
I think I just figured out why Jack is lapine! (Don't ask why I'm posting this here and not on the Jack forum.)He's the Black Rabbit of Inl