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SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:26 am

Nail on the head., and a good zinger.

Wayfarer · Post by **Wayfarer** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:52 am

Reminds me of one of my family's sayings:
"But it must be true. You just saw it on TV. They wouldn't lie to you. They love you."

Yes, we can be very, very sarcastic at times.

Shirogitsune · Post by **Shirogitsune** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:18 am

Best. Pickup. Line. Ever. Nip.

;P

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:31 am

[...unWARP!]

Good evening.

Odd, during his "textileless" moments, his fur seemed fine with no scars at all....

That, or he likes having his fur longer than normal to conceal them?

Is Keenspace screwing up again? The date says the strips were updated on Sunday, but I stayed up past midnight and nothing happened. Anyone know what's going on?

Zacatepongolas!

Until next time, remember:

I

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Good evening.

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Jaydub · Post by **Jaydub** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:44 am

SolidusRaccoon Wrote:

Nail on the head., and a good zinger.

Yes he did and that is why our preverted director is making the movie. to promote his views on the public. And to think so many people believe his pure fiction movies are real.

Labrusca · Post by **Labrusca** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:46 am

Shirogitsune wrote:Best. Pickup. Line. Ever. Nip.

;P

Yeah, but isn't she rather old for him? The glasses make her seem more like middle aged.

On second thought, maybe not. An egomaniac would probably surround himself with as many pretty young things as he could.

Shirogitsune · Post by **Shirogitsune** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:52 am

labrusca wrote:
Shirogitsune wrote:Best. Pickup. Line. Ever. Nip.

;P
Yeah, but isn't she rather old for him? The glasses make her seem more like middle aged.

On second thought, maybe not. An egomaniac would probably surround himself with as many pretty young things as he could.

I think he's trying to be funny...but it would be an awesome line for him to use on those ladies within his age group.

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:19 pm

Hmm.. I wonder if Nip is a fan of Mythbusters..?

Roberto the Dane · Post by **Roberto the Dane** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:36 pm

In general, I agree with the lady. Action films are entertainment, not reality. I will admit American films are closer to reality than Hong Kong "Wire-Fu."

Roberto the Dane

Wayfarer · Post by **Wayfarer** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:40 pm

Shirogitsune wrote:
labrusca wrote:
Shirogitsune wrote:Best. Pickup. Line. Ever. Nip.

;P
Yeah, but isn't she rather old for him? The glasses make her seem more like middle aged.

On second thought, maybe not. An egomaniac would probably surround himself with as many pretty young things as he could.
I think he's trying to be funny...but it would be an awesome line for him to use on those ladies within his age group.

Actually, it doesn't strike me as such a great pickup line. It's not the worst I've heard of, but it's not that great.

Then again, maybe it's just the idea of a pickup line that doesn't strike me as that great...

Roberto the Dane wrote:In general, I agree with the lady. Action films are entertainment, not reality. I will admit American films are closer to reality than Hong Kong "Wire-Fu."

One could ask, though, whether any medium of art or narrative should really be considered just entertainment. Like it or not, it's going to say something, and it's going to portray something as reality. People should be responsible for practicing discernment, yes. But those who produce it should also be responsible for what they're saying and portraying.

T.s.a.o · Post by **T.s.a.o** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:00 pm

4 EXAMPLE....several elementary students grow up believing 'Hercules' is a story written by Disney...not kidding....there may not be any truth to all the other anti-Disney hype that's usually conspired, but he never had an origional idea in to save his life, and he stole tons of credit from evn his own partners! What's worse is that the company never grew out of his mindset.... They should at least edit their remakes to say 'based on someone else's novel/idea!' or something like that.

Tbolt · Post by **Tbolt** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:25 am

That's one thing that always drove me crazy when I hear the "It's only entertainment" line.

If the media, (Video, Audio, or Print) had zero influence upon our lines, then why advertise? Better yet, why don't ads merely show the product and demonstrate its function? (Well, I guess suppositories & toilet paper might have a rough time

)

When I was studying to be an engineer, one of the first things I learned is to never underestimate a person's stupidity when designing a product. If you idiot proof something so that there's only a one in a million chance that someone could screw it up, guess what, there's 300 of them in the US alone and they all have lawyers.

The media influences people. If you caricature or extol something long enough and loud enough, it will influence opinion.

I agree with Wayfarer, just because someone says "imagine" doesen't make what is going to follow right or wholesome. "Imagine" that the nazis were right in their racist beliefs in WWII. Gee, how far would that idea fly? Why are people so angry? It's just entertainment!

I wish that discernment was a subject we could teach in our classrooms. To keep our children from falling prey to lies and to recognize propoganda when they see it. But if truth is relative, then there is no way to tell right from wrong.

Mwalimu · Post by **Mwalimu** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:13 am

t.s.a.o wrote:4 EXAMPLE....several elementary students grow up believing 'Hercules' is a story written by Disney...not kidding

My brother teaches history to junior high kids, and he's had students who thought that Disney's version of Pocahontas was accurate. Sorry, not even close.

Jaydub · Post by **Jaydub** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:11 am

Tbolt Wrote:

When I was studying to be an engineer, one of the first things I learned is to never underestimate a person's stupidity when designing a product. If you idiot proof something so that there's only a one in a million chance that someone could screw it up, guess what, there's 300 of them in the US alone and they all have lawyers.

Which brings to mind this little truism.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Sun tzu · Post by **Sun tzu** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:01 pm

mwalimu wrote:
t.s.a.o wrote:4 EXAMPLE....several elementary students grow up believing 'Hercules' is a story written by Disney...not kidding
My brother teaches history to junior high kids, and he's had students who thought that Disney's version of Pocahontas was accurate. Sorry, not even close.

They believed Pocahontas got advice from a talking tree?

Dragoon The Griffin · Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:20 pm

There are not words for my raw hate of Disney. Poccahauntas and Hercules made me hate them, ad that doesn't include their bullshit from when I was tooo young to know that their stuff was as horrible as it was. If I could take over they company I'd make them make a list of evey stolen sotry and every inaccuracy in everything they've done, ptint out portions of it as flyiers and get them distributed, and then show the full list as a 'movie' which would be shown for free. After that was done all disney related objects would be destroyed, and the company would be converted into some sort of manufacturing so it would still exist so no one could try to recreate the name.

Oh, and action flicks are eye candy, lotsa explsions and stuff, and not reality. It's your own fault for not realizing 'hey, this stuff ain't real'.

RHJunior · Post by **RHJunior** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:54 pm

Dragoon, this is the point we're addressing..... but you don't seem to be paying attention.

As was said in the comic, people KNOW that it's all make believe in the movies. But they still RIGHTFULLY expect the story teller to get the little things--- like referenced historical events, factual minutae, and basic science correct.

More to the point we are a visual and auditory species. There is no escaping the fact that we absorb what we see and hear as "factual" long before we absorb what we read in the abstract in a textbook. What we see and hear influences our perceptions dramatically.

Moviemakers with political agendas and no ethics exploit this shamelessly... encapsulating wilfull ignorance, prejudice and propaganda as "entertainment." They plant false perceptions in people DELIBERATELY. The social consequences are disastrous.

Wayfarer · Post by **Wayfarer** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:57 pm

Dragoon The Griffin wrote:Oh, and action flicks are eye candy, lotsa explsions and stuff, and not reality. It's your own fault for not realizing 'hey, this stuff ain't real'.

Again, I agree that people should be responsible for showing discernment.

I do not think this absolves any kind of storyteller or artist from their responsibility for what they say or show.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:11 pm

Let's not forget the mob who thinks "The Da Vinci Code" NOVEL is actually "historical" fact.

Jwrebholz · Post by **Jwrebholz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:02 pm

The JAM wrote:Let's not forget the mob who thinks "The Da Vinci Code" NOVEL is actually "historical" fact.

Those people are just freakin' stupid. So are the ones that think Harry Potter and DnD teaches kids to be witches and Satanists.

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