Beardless Dwarf

Fusion · Post by **Fusion** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:22 am

I don't know about the rest of you, but If I was in that situation, I would have to agree with Merry.

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:45 am

heh heh heh, the baeard is no good, it covers up her..............

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:51 am

Yeah, I also think the idea of Dwarf Women having beards is a bit silly...

Dragoon The Griffin · Post by **Dragoon The Griffin** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:19 am

0.o Wow, Am i the only one who thinks any dwaf doesn't look right without a beard. A dwarf without a beard would be like a elf without pointy ears, or that was fat. You don't wat a bead don't play a dwarf. >.>

Trump · Post by **Trump** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:12 am

Just because I am a bit of a movie snob, I have to point this out. It was Aragorn that said it, not Legolas.

Squeaky Bunny · Post by **Squeaky Bunny** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:16 am

She could be very dangerous with a beard.

Be wary of hairy Merry!

Mjolnir · Post by **Mjolnir** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:48 am

Does that mean her character would get a higer DEX score with the beard?

"Hairy Merry, full of grace ..."

8)

- Mjolnir

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:08 am

Ben could'a said she had it shaved off.

Jaydub · Post by **Jaydub** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:00 pm

Let's see Merry is a beaver right?
Beavers have hair all over their face and chin right?
So doesn't she already have a short beard?

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:21 pm

What I heard is that female dwarves disguise themselves as men when they go out. At least, I think Tolkien's did. All the xenophobia and such.

I guess they didn't want anyone trying to rape their females when they went shopping.

In any case, I say let the player decide.

I once played a hairless dwarf who covered it up with a fake beard (and maybe a toupe). 'Twas quite fun.

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:18 pm

In the Hobbit, not only only do both male and female dwarves, they can have blue and green beards as well, all the colors of the rainbow beards. In the Discworld series, both females and males have berads. I think Mary should be able to choose whether or not she has a beard.

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:30 pm

Dragoon The Griffin wrote:0.o Wow, Am i the only one who thinks any dwaf doesn't look right without a beard. A dwarf without a beard would be like a elf without pointy ears, or that was fat. You don't wat a bead don't play a dwarf. >.>

A Male Dwarf, sure.. I can't imagine a Male Dwarf not having a long beard...

...It's the Female Dwarves I just can't see with beards.

CasVeg · Post by **CasVeg** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:45 am

Over at wizards.com, I once had the privilege of seeing a really well-drawn bearded female dwarf. The guy actually managed to draw a feminate beard. Three words sum it up nicely: Long peach fuzz. It wasn't quite long enough to braid. (There wasn't a mustach, either.) I had to look twice to see it.

Wayfarer · Post by **Wayfarer** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:52 am

I just want to say that I find Merry's expressions in the second and third panels to be incredibly funny. I love the little bit of tongue sticking out. So classic.

And I agree with her - no beard, and I just don't care. As shyal mentioned, there are always such things as razors to explain unusually hairless dwarves.

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:19 pm

StrangeWulf13 wrote:What I heard is that female dwarves disguise themselves as men when they go out. At least, I think Tolkien's did. All the xenophobia and such. I guess they didn't want anyone trying to rape their females when they went shopping

Tolkien never actually came right out and said one way or the other, at least not in writings published in his lifetime, and nothing at all about disguises (which is silly anyway.) He did say that it was impossible for outsiders to distinguish dwarf women from the men. Since all dwarf men have beards, if the women were beardless they'd rather be instantly identifiable. It therefore inescapably follows that the women were bearded too, and this is commonly accepted in Tolkien fandom. Pratchett's dwarf women are bearded in an homage to Tolkien, and also so that he could explore some of the comedic possibilities.

However, in parts of The Silmarillion that were only published in the History of Middle Earth series, Tolkien does come right out and say that dwarf women had beards. See http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/Creatures.html#DwarfBeards.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:33 pm

[...unWARP!!!]

Good evening.

Wayfarer wrote:I just want to say that I find Merry's expressions in the second and third panels to be incredibly funny. I love the little bit of tongue sticking out. So classic.

Dude, that's not her tongue, those are her teeth. She's a beaver, so she has prominent inscisors.

Wayfarer · Post by **Wayfarer** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:12 pm

The JAM wrote:[...unWARP!!!]

Wayfarer wrote:I just want to say that I find Merry's expressions in the second and third panels to be incredibly funny. I love the little bit of tongue sticking out. So classic.
Dude, that's not her tongue, those are her teeth. She's a beaver, so she has prominent inscisors.

Actually, unless RH says differently, I stand by tongue. I looked back to check, and I just can't see teeth. The line could be the division between teeth, but it looks more like the little line that's often drawn down the middle of the tongue, especially since it only goes part-way down. But more importantly, it's too rounded, and looks too much like one piece. If it were a pair of teeth, I would expect it to be squarish, perhaps with some indication of the division between them at the bottom as well as the top.

But eh, who knows.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:08 pm

[...unWARP!!!]

Good evening.

Wattaminute....

Being a beaver, she has ALWAYS been depicted with prominent incisors. If she were sticking her tongue out, it would have to be under her teeth, so she would look more or less like this:

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:54 pm

maybe a dwarf woman with no beard but long hair would be less easy to distinguish if she had some of her hair in front over her shoulder.

that and most people's decision is based on the quickest of first impressions and that may not even include the question of

"does it have a beard?"

"I don't know if it has a beard, it's short and looks tough and ugly, that should be enough for you."

(no offence to any dwarves.)