Doom! DooooOOOOMMMM!

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:03 pm

Well, we knew this would eventually happen. And it has here is the Doom Movie Trailer. http://www.doommovie.com/

Personally, I wanna see Halo.

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:43 am

Bah, they messed the plot up majorly.

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:37 am

Yeah....but we still get to see The Rock kick some more butt.....and play with some kick-ass weaponry.

Hey....I gave up on plot lines looooooooong ago...now all I watch for is SFX, MAJOR pyro and how good (real) the gore looks.

S'aaruuk

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:44 am

Yeah, I didn't think the plot was right. Weren't doing the normal thing in video games now where they were trying to develop teleporting or something? Also, if they are going even close to the game, everyone dies. EVERYONE.

BlasTech · Post by **BlasTech** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:09 pm

Hrmm, looks interesting i wonder if it will be as scary as that new pc game Fear. just played the demo and im seriously going to scream the next time a see a small black haired girl.

Chaser617 · Post by **Chaser617** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:13 pm

Plot? Doom had a plot? I thought it was always just running around blowing things up...

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:05 pm

Chaser617 wrote:Plot? Doom had a plot? I thought it was always just running around blowing things up...

Yeah....pretty much along the lines of Vin Diesel in "xXx" near the end when he tells the cop:

"Stop thinking 'Prague Police'...start thinking 'Play Station'......blow sh*t up!!!"

One of the best lines in the whole flic.

S'aaruuk

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:07 pm

Sort of....you have to read the instruction manuel. Basically, if memory serves, something goes wrong on some research base on Mars (opening a portal to Hell), they send in the military. An entire squad goes in but an communication officer stays behind, overhearing the utter slaughter of the squad. He has to go in and deal with the problem.

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:10 pm

Madmoonie wrote:Sort of....you have to read the instruction manuel. Basically, if memory serves, something goes wrong on some research base on Mars (opening a portal to Hell), they send in the military. An entire squad goes in but an communication officer stays behind, overhearing the utter slaughter of the squad. He has to go in and deal with the problem.

That might make a good game, but my plan would have been to nuke the entire planet from orbit.
Which would have been very pretty to see, but would have made a very short game...

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:54 am

Yup silly old scientists opening portals to hell, not really a good idea.

DracoDei · Post by **DracoDei** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:32 am

I doubt it was intentional...

Starfury · Post by **Starfury** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:31 pm

Maybe they were trying to make Hell freeze over...

"Okay, thats done, next, flying pigs!"

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:33 pm

Knowing our luck, it would be government funded too.

Your tax dollars opening the gates of hell. Scary thought.

'Course, some might argue they do that everyday at a satanic place called the IRS...

Somber Cat · Post by **Somber Cat** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:33 pm

Unless your scientists have a religious bent in which they see themselves of servitors of God ushering in the apocalypse so that the good of humanity can transend this world of sin while every one else ends up as demon munchies.

"Of course, you always think you're the ones getting in the boat."

Somber

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:52 pm

UncleMonty wrote:That might make a good game, but my plan would have been to nuke the entire planet from orbit.
Which would have been very pretty to see, but would have made a very short game...

And depending on the project, might not have solved the problem. If it was something that "held the door open", then yes, it would have fixed things. If it was something that had to "close the door", it wouldn't, and might have made things wose. (I'm afraid I was never good / interested enough to play Doom to the end.)

Somber Cat · Post by **Somber Cat** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:15 pm

It's a western idea: regeneration through destruction. In a nutshell, most westerners believe that in order to have a solution, all you have to do is destroy or eliminate the problem. Then the solution will naturally occur. It's a common theme in greek, roman, and norse literature. Contemptorary orgins are westerns started the trend (once the bad guys were killed then the town/ ranch/ family would be saved.) and it carried through into most masculine action movies (once the archvillain is killed then the story is over.)

In contrast Dramas and romantics (which rarely depend upon the death of antagonists), anime, and other foreign films rarely employ regeneration through destruction. It is a heavily lodged theme in the American Psyche though.

"Where else can you find it... hmmm..."

Somber

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:13 am

StrangeWulf13 wrote:Knowing our luck, it would be government funded too.

Your tax dollars opening the gates of hell. Scary thought.

'Course, some might argue they do that everyday at a satanic place called the IRS...

How true, that's what we should have done, to heck with the marines. Drop auditors into the hell portal. Not even Satan could withstand that.

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:22 pm

Somber Cat wrote:It's a western idea: regeneration through destruction. In a nutshell, most westerners believe that in order to have a solution, all you have to do is destroy or eliminate the problem. Then the solution will naturally occur. It's a common theme in greek, roman, and norse literature. Contemptorary orgins are westerns started the trend (once the bad guys were killed then the town/ ranch/ family would be saved.) and it carried through into most masculine action movies (once the archvillain is killed then the story is over.)

In contrast Dramas and romantics (which rarely depend upon the death of antagonists), anime, and other foreign films rarely employ regeneration through destruction. It is a heavily lodged theme in the American Psyche though.

"Where else can you find it... hmmm..."

Somber

Well, to be honest, Somber, the reason most Western civilizations believe in this is because it tends to be pretty damn well effective. If you kill or eliminate the troublemaker (death is one option; there are others, some of which are worse), then it's easier to rebuild and move on. If you leave them alone, they tend to make things harder than they have to be.

And frankly, some villians and troublemakers cannot be reformed. Western civilizations are influenced by Christianity, and there's a predominant belief that some things/people are too evil and must be eliminated for the common good.

Bad guys don't always have to die, but you have to admit, very few who are killed show up to make trouble again.

btw, I suggest that if you find yourself in a sci-fi or fantasy adventure that you make sure you have a body and a head, together but separate, before you declare someone dead.

Just a precaution...

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:17 pm

I've actually played a small part of the beginning of DOOMIII.

the plot really doesn't get cooking until after you meet this guy (who dies of course) that says he made the devil's cage.

overall, I found it as difficult to survive as HALO Legendary mode and as BOO (something is tough and slaps you dead from behind making you jump in your seat or you see something that makes you wish the char had just stayed in bead this morning or otherwise just makes you go "oh, no") saying as Halflife

still I prefered HALO and Halflife to DOOMIII. it just isn't my style of killing, no innocent people to frag...

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:17 am

StrangeWulf13 wrote:
Well, to be honest, Somber, the reason most Western civilizations believe in this is because it tends to be pretty damn well effective. If you kill or eliminate the troublemaker (death is one option; there are others, some of which are worse), then it's easier to rebuild and move on. If you leave them alone, they tend to make things harder than they have to be.

And frankly, some villians and troublemakers cannot be reformed. Western civilizations are influenced by Christianity, and there's a predominant belief that some things/people are too evil and must be eliminated for the common good.

Bad guys don't always have to die, but you have to admit, very few who are killed show up to make trouble again.

btw, I suggest that if you find yourself in a sci-fi or fantasy adventure that you make sure you have a body and a head, together but separate, before you declare someone dead.

Just a precaution...

Well yeah, this is very true. When I go to the movies I want to see the villain get what is comming to him/her, I don't want to see the rapist/murdered/kidnapper/terrorist arrested and taken off to jail to serve their time. I want to see them get taken out. I like to cheer when the baddie dies. It gives a much better sense of satisfaction.