The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.

Conlang · Post by **Conlang** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:49 pm

Lee M wrote: Aslan's resurrection scene has been criticised by some people as "ramming Christianity down children's throats".

To that, I give the same response I do to conservatives who whine about the phrase "season's greetings": Cry me a **** river.

A story is as much a work of art as anything else; debate it's merits, talk about what it says, but try to fundamentally change the theme so YOU agree with it? Nothing less than Vandalism!

I did not read the book (much as I hate to admit it) and judging form what I read here, that's probably why I enjoyed the film so much. But seriously--whing about "too much Jesus" in a movie made from a book by a very Christian author is simply the height of stupidity, whatever your religion may be. I know I would expect Islamic themes from a very Muslim author, Jewish themes from a very Jewish author, or even secular themes from a very secular author, and (being reminded of my horrible experience with the movie made from Ray Bradbury's short story "A sound of thunder") wouldn't even think of gutting the story to make the theme more agreeable.

Also: hi everyone! Just read comic archives and thought I'd drop in. Talk to yas later, 'cus it is kinda late.

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:52 pm

Late? LATE?! Dude, we are world wide nuthouse here...the Australian crew will be around any moment, not to mention the English.

Narnian · Post by **Narnian** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:19 am

LeiraHoward wrote:Spoiler warning... (text is in white, highlight to read, but not if you haven't already seen the movie...)

Simple but effective - a geat way to hide spoilers - I had never seen it this way before. But then I rarely discuss movies online.

As I had mentioned earlier I loved the movie but had my own problems, many of which you and Wayfarer pointed out but my biggest ones were as follows: **spoiler alert**

When Aslan was resurected in the movie he mentioned the witch did not understand the inscription of the deep magic on the stone table, but in the book it was deeper magic from before the dawn of time she didn't know because she was not there, but Aslan was.

Also I was looking forward to the romp Aslan had with Lucy and Susan after he resurected but that was cut entirely.

Also in the book the professor was much more accessable - he came out to greet them when they arrived and ate with them. He wasn't this mysterious figure but a friend from the start.

Mwalimu · Post by **Mwalimu** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:11 pm

Yuoofox wrote:I think that they did a good job on the movie. I espeically like the fox.

The fox had what I thought was the best line in the whole movie: "Not to be rude, but I wasn't talking to you." (It works much better in context.)

Yuoofox · Post by **Yuoofox** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:49 pm

The fox had what I thought was the best line in the whole movie: "Not to be rude, but I wasn't talking to you." (It works much better in context.)

I think so too. They'll just have to see it to understand, though.

And even though the wolves were the villians, they played their part very well.

**Gives the digital wolf actors a giant bag of Pepperidge Farm Wolfie Snacks.**

NydaLynn · Post by **NydaLynn** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:41 pm

This thread is driving me nuts! Can't wait to see the movie!

Conlang · Post by **Conlang** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:42 pm

There's also Mr. Beaver: "Well, I'm not going to smell it, if that's what you want!"

I think maughrim had a pretty good line too: "Please don't run. We're very tired and want to kill you quickly"

He was actually the big reason I saw this movie. In the previews, when he turns to the camera and says "Take them" is exactly when I knew I would see this movie. I expected really good wolf scenes, and I was not disapointed.

ALL the animals were gorgeous--even that scraggly little fox. I wanted to hug him

As for Australia--heh, I'd love to live there. Or the UK. Or anywhere other than here (Knoxville Tennessee). But I've done enough b***ing about this place in the last ten years that even I'm tired of hearing it.

BlasTech · Post by **BlasTech** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:59 pm

Madmoonie wrote:Late? LATE?! Dude, we are world wide nuthouse here...the Australian crew will be around any moment, not to mention the English.

Woo! i got promoted to "crew"!!!!!

so happy *cries with joy*

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:57 pm

The English? Where?!

*grabs his musket* DOWN WITH THE REDCOATS!!

Conlang · Post by **Conlang** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 pm

[reaches over towards musket....reaches past musket, picks up cheetos]

Meh, I am just too lazy

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:35 pm

BlasTech wrote:
Madmoonie wrote:Late? LATE?! Dude, we are world wide nuthouse here...the Australian crew will be around any moment, not to mention the English.
Woo! i got promoted to "crew"!!!!!

so happy *cries with joy*

That was a WARNING....not a cause for celebration. You guys bite.

Anyway, just saw the movie and absolutly LOVED it! A wonderful movie, diffenatly gotta get the DVD. Anyway, if you haven't seen it yet, GO DO IT! Ms. Nydalynn had to keep hitting me to keep me quiet, I was cheering so much.

NydaLynn · Post by **NydaLynn** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:49 pm

Yeah... my voice was sore from shushing you!

And I really think I'll have to replace my nerf bat now... lol! Good movie, loved the fox scenes of course!

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:14 pm

NydaLynn wrote:Yeah... my voice was sore from shushing you! And I really think I'll have to replace my nerf bat now... lol! Good movie, loved the fox scenes of course!

(phhhbbbttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!)

BlasTech · Post by **BlasTech** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:35 pm

NydaLynn wrote:.... And I really think I'll have to replace my nerf bat now... lol! Good movie, loved the fox scenes of course!

Well you can always ask to borrow Astral's

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:55 am

Saw the movie last week, and I absolutely loved it. What I liked most was that they actually took the time to really work on the characterisation. The actors really work at it: you can really feel mr Tumnus' emotional conflict as he struggles between his affection for Lucy and his fear of the White Witch, before affection finally wins through.

And those kids? Darn they're good actors for their age. Especially the one who played Edmund. I've seen the old BBC adaptation, and I always thought that Edmund's switch from bad to good was rather forced. But here, here I actually got it.. He wasn't really a bad kid before, but one suffering from "Middle Child Syndrome". Edmund falls prey to Jadis' temptations because she gives him more kind attention then he'd gotten from his family in a while. Yet, when he comes to realize just what he'd done, he turns around and tries to do the right thing, and ultimately redeems himself, even if it nearly costs him his life.

And yes, I loved the fox too. Cheeky little critter, wasn't he? His best scene:
Fox: I'm sorry, your Majesty.
Jadis The White Witch: Shut up with the formalities!
Fox: I'm sorry, ma'am, not to offend, but I wasn't speaking to you.
[looks at Edmund]

Burned!

Lee M · Post by **Lee M** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:32 am

StrangeWulf13 wrote:The English? Where?!

*grabs his musket* DOWN WITH THE REDCOATS!!

Right here, Yankee Doodle Dandy. All 48 million of us fish-and-chip eating, George Bush-hating peacenik Limey liberals.

It always amuses me whenever I visit Boston because their tourist industry is heavily based on how they defeated the English in the War of Independence. And who are their most frequent international visitors? OK, possibly apart from the Japanese....

NydaLynn · Post by **NydaLynn** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:02 pm

Lee M wrote: It always amuses me whenever I visit Boston because their tourist industry is heavily based on how they defeated the English in the War of Independence. And who are their most frequent international visitors? OK, possibly apart from the Japanese....

How ironic.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:49 pm

Maybe they're trying to rub it in?

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:37 pm

The JAM wrote:Maybe they're trying to rub it in?

I don't think so, personally. But all over the world, wars tend to leave memorials and monuments behind, and where you find memorials you find tourist traps selling trinkets made in asian countries, celebrating the events signified by those memorials.

Who'd pass up a chance to make a little extra income from something somebody else did before you were born?

StrangeWulf13 · Post by **StrangeWulf13** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:23 pm

Lee M wrote:
StrangeWulf13 wrote:The English? Where?!

*grabs his musket* DOWN WITH THE REDCOATS!!
Right here, Yankee Doodle Dandy. All 48 million of us fish-and-chip eating, George Bush-hating peacenik Limey liberals.

It always amuses me whenever I visit Boston because their tourist industry is heavily based on how they defeated the English in the War of Independence. And who are their most frequent international visitors? OK, possibly apart from the Japanese....

Heh... just like the last time... standing straight up in plain view...

*takes careful aim*