Why? Oh Why?

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:26 pm

PeppermintAfterlife wrote:A few of my fans want me to draw porn of my chracters.

This will not be happening.

*Runs away sobbing uncontrollably*

Levi-chan · Post by **Levi-chan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:30 pm

Toxic wrote:
PeppermintAfterlife wrote:A few of my fans want me to draw porn of my chracters.

This will not be happening.
*Runs away sobbing uncontrollably*

I understand what you feel. Why won't you create porn of your characters, Peppermint?

(Gah! I forgot the smiley!)

Cope · Post by **Cope** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:30 pm

Luprand wrote:
chibiartstudios wrote:*poisons his food*
... dude, why'd you poison your food?

Clearly, he desires freedom from this fanless mortal coil.

....

*poisons his food*

So the kissing and the comic had nothing to do with each other; instead they keep saying some bullcrap about "I have such a crush on you! You're so polite and stuff."

Wow, I never knew you were such a regular Casanova, Lup!

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...

Luprand · Post by **Luprand** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:33 pm

Cope wrote:Wow, I never knew you were such a regular Casanova, Lup!

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...

... would this be a good time to mention that I've been on one date in my life? ... or that that incident marks the second time I've gotten a kiss from someone not related to me or in a school play?

--Sij

Cope · Post by **Cope** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:41 pm

*ignores Luprand and instead amuses himself with the image of a puppy wooing the ladies in an exotic locale*

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:44 pm

What's going on with... the... nevermind. ::throws confusion about the avatars to the back of his mind::

I had a fan who would draw weird, surreal, bizarre pictures on the drawing board, and also on the oekaki board that I got later. He also drew pictures correcting anatomy from my comics (though not always correctly), and often drew digs on the plot or the art (ie "burrito elven", "adidas", "a load in his pants", etc). Once we even had a sequence of drawings back and forth where I parodied his and he parodied mine.

God I miss that monkey.

Levi-chan · Post by **Levi-chan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:53 pm

Risky wrote:What's going on with... the... nevermind. ::throws confusion about the avatars to the back of his mind::

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Glee!

KODAMA · Post by **KODAMA** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:36 pm

man, my fans have ben the sweetest people alive, except for that one kroean kid who would spam up my tagboard with all this korean garbage. ....but other then that... I love them all. They make me lots of fan art and write me incourging stuff.
;u; fans are great.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:06 pm

Levi-chan wrote:
Toxic wrote:
PeppermintAfterlife wrote:A few of my fans want me to draw porn of my chracters.

This will not be happening.
*Runs away sobbing uncontrollably*
I understand what you feel. Why won't you create porn of your characters, Peppermint?

(Gah! I forgot the smiley!)

I would feel really, really dirty if I did. Plus you have to be really good at drawing to do porn. The only thing worse than porn is badly drawn porn.

Post by **Kisai** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:39 am

If you think it's annoying to be hounded by fans with these mere annoyances. You should see what happens when you goto an comic/anime con and people recognize you, or who you are with.

Nobody recognized me at AKON(Dallas), but at Anime Evolution(Vancouver) I was hanging out with Space coyote for a few hours on one day, which a fan of hers got jealous after the con, I'll invite her to share if she wants, she can write a book on creepy fan behavior.

Most fan behavior is good natured, but you will get the odd person who will either stalk you or think you are god and not leave you alone.

Read about what happens to people who become famous. They effectively let their life become an open book because people hound them so. If you find these trivial things you are all posting to be "really irritating" you might want to stop and reconsider what would happen if you get more than 15 minutes of fame.

As for me, as part of administration of the service, I get people who like the service, and will good naturedly email positive comments, but it gets out of hand when you get unwanted attention. On the flip side, when something happens to keenspace, I get a pile of bad comments either telling me how poorly I'm running the service or that the service itself is full of colorful metaphors I dare not repeat. There are people who can not read, can not listen, can not take a hint, can not take a clue, can not speak the same language, etc. Yet there are people who are good natured and still can not read. There is a FAQ, there is a HELP forum, there is at least three channels of communication, yet people will get a single error and email me expecting instant communication. I'm only at the PC for about 2-3 hours per day where I can respond. If people post and respond to the help forum for help, they can get help or pointed in the right direction in a few minutes, unlike emailing me/help@ and waiting 2 months for help when I sift thorough all the spam, bounced mails and other stuff that makes it hard to find the needle in a haystack.

Please, GO to a comic or anime con, and see the general atmosphere. You'll usually find that on the first day, the people who like attention will be directing your attention to them. On subsequent days they don't like the attention anymore.

FAME can and will kill you if you can not handle it. At best, shoot at least for "there are people who have read my comic" instead of "everyone knows my comic/me" , as the latter = celebrity in the internet webcomic culture.

If you do not want all your secrets discovered about you, do not use your real name online.
If you do not want it to come back and haunt you 5 years later, do not do itin the first place. Unlike real life, once it's on the internet, it's there forever. http://www.archive.org

If you are drawing a comic for fun, YES that's what you should do. But if you are wanting fame and fortune, and can work up to that, expect the pitfalls of obsessive fans, stalkers, and annoying but good intentioned fans.

Ever wonder why movie/music stars become burned out drug addicts? They go insane and don't care about themselves anymore. Once you have fame, it's hard to destroy and go back to being anonymous nobody.

Joel Fagin · Post by **Joel Fagin** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:53 am

Kisai wrote:You should see what happens when you goto an comic/anime con and people recognize you.

Well, next time you'll know not to wear the ears, won't you?

- Joel Fagin

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:07 am

Luprand wrote:
Cope wrote:Wow, I never knew you were such a regular Casanova, Lup!

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...
... would this be a good time to mention that I've been on one date in my life? ... or that that incident marks the second time I've gotten a kiss from someone not related to me or in a school play?

--Sij

You got kissed in a school play? You don! *nudge nudge*

Phact0rri · Post by **Phact0rri** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:25 am

Kisai wrote:Read about what happens to people who become famous. They effectively let their life become an open book because people hound them so. If you find these trivial things you are all posting to be "really irritating" you might want to stop and reconsider what would happen if you get more than 15 minutes of fame.

I know a few pretty famous people and my gf has digs with all sorts of them. But the most horrific stories she's ever told me surrounded Jhonen Vasquez (HTHM) and about his psychotic fans... and things get a little messed up when they arm themselves to get a piece of the action.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:35 am

I remember Travis Barker from Blink 182 saying he can't even buy groceries at the super market anymore without people flocking to him.
Let the man buy some cheese in peace, damnit.

Ti-Phil · Post by **Ti-Phil** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:18 am

...the webcomiclist thing happened to me too...

Sput · Post by **Sput** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:34 am

phactorri wrote:
Kisai wrote:Read about what happens to people who become famous. They effectively let their life become an open book because people hound them so. If you find these trivial things you are all posting to be "really irritating" you might want to stop and reconsider what would happen if you get more than 15 minutes of fame.
I know a few pretty famous people and my gf has digs with all sorts of them. But the most horrific stories she's ever told me surrounded Jhonen Vasquez (HTHM) and about his psychotic fans... and things get a little messed up when they arm themselves to get a piece of the action.

holy SHIT his fans are PSYCHOS. you hear me?! they all want a bite of him gahhh. I saw him ONCE, and omgwtf he was swarmed with kindergoths and under age girls who wanted to screw him. @o@

Post by **Kisai** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:44 am

Joel Fagin wrote:
Kisai wrote:You should see what happens when you goto an comic/anime con and people recognize you.
Well, next time you'll know not to wear the ears, won't you?

- Joel Fagin

I don't wear them to work, and I work with like 1000 people. Yet I goto a con that has more than 1000 people, nobody recognizes me untill after the webcomic panel.

CJBurgandy · Post by **CJBurgandy** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:45 am

Kisai also has this one weird fan that like, purposed to her at least 3 times. She's this crazy (sometimes red-head) Blond chick... from Alaska... she's like... weird.

Wp · Post by Wp » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:50 am

But doesn't it still make you feel kinda good? I mean, it's like when you're popular enough to get hate mail. Then you know you're getting up there at least.

I've also heard that this fan of Kisai's has proposed to numerous other webcomickers...

CJBurgandy · Post by **CJBurgandy** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:54 am

LIES!