IF Canada suffered a 911 similar attack -- which by itself is a preposterous notion, given our reknowned, honoured and respected status thruout the world, with the exception being our southern neighbors -- It is all but a garantee that the people of Canada, as they have in our past, would ralley together to deal with whatever nonsence may arise. I wont argue about the pathetic state of our military, but if the Canadian people gotta kick in thier Peace-enspired complacancy, you REALLY think itd take long for us to cure that? I do not.
Uhm, let's see.. It would take us about a few trillion dollars to revamp our military, more then a few years to train more soldiers, and frankly, we'd have to grow out of the silly conceit that we can get respect as a country by being nice to the people who can blow our heads off. ...So, no, I don't think we could. ...And Canada isn't reknowned, honored or respected anywhere then in your imagination. At best, we're known as "those nice neighbors who live next door to the yankees," and at worst, folks go "Ain't that a part of the States?"
Theres your next error -- Canada does not, nor has not EVER, started wars. Unlike SOME. Canada would not start one, but if someone started with us, well, ask the Nazis how powerful we were, paticularly for a small populace country. In fact, when it came to a fighting force of WW2, the only ones more feared that the Canadian infantry by the Nazis, were the "Laddies from Hell" aka the Scots.
Some might argue that the Americans didn't start the War on Terror either: Al Qaida did. Back during WW2, Canada was just part of the british forces. And while we did get a decent reputation, we weren't "less feared then the Scots". Furthermore, it's a good thing that the Nazis never came to attack Canada itself, 'cause our navy never would've stopped it. Most of our ships didn't have any real cannons, just wooden mock-ups of cannons made for intimidation value.
Or, perhaps they didnt think him all THAT bad. if youd bother to do some checking, youd of found that in the 40 years that saddam WAS in power, he took a smashed, belly up third world country and made it into about as powerful as he could get it --- which included a LOT of wheeling and dealing with the US government and companies, up till as late as 1999. FUNNY, how shit like that gets swept under the rug. True, he was a tyrant -- but history has had a LOT fucking worse. But, neither of us were there --- so you tell me, what do you rely on for info? the US news? Me, i prefer talking to someone i know that is FROM Iraq.
They didn't think him all THAT BAD!?
You're talking about a guy who used poison gasses on his own people, who's sons were allowed to kidnap, rape and kill any women they liked, who's goons used interrogation techniques Torquemada would've found inhumane, who sparked two wars that Irak lost at a great cost to his own people...
...And you STILL defend him!?
I'm sorry, RK, but I've lost all respect for you at this point. Kid Gloves Come Off Now.
If you won't take my word for it, go ahead, go find someone from Irak who's family lived under Saddam's brutality, and ask them if they thought Saddam really was that bad.
...I'd pay to see them call you a frickin moron for such a stupid question.
That is hardly what Id call modern -- how about something much more so? Like, saaaayyyy the assissination of JFK? Mind you, guess i cant use that, as while the people loved him -- it was his government that didnt.
The Ceaucescus were overthrown in the 1980s. Apparantly, I know my European history better then you. And those guys, btw, had a track record which make Saddam look good.
And if you beleive that, i gotta bridge in NY to sell you, cause, to be perfectly blunt, the elections as of late, both in the US and in Canada, have been a royal farce, on the Country scale at any rate.
Considering your attitude towards Saddam, does this mean you'd prefer a Dictatorship? ...At least I have faith in the system. It may not always give you the result you'd like to see, but it's fairer then anything else.
Ahh yes, Canada's black sheep for a province. Prolly one of the biggest headaches for our government in actually trying to ACCOMPLISH something is appeasing the naysayers in Quebec, who bloody well cant even decide weather they WANT to leave or not. Personally, I say let them -- then wait for a month when they come back realising how bloody stupid they were.
Personally, I think Seperatism is an outdated political formula: we're now equal partners with Canada, and we have a good voice in Federal Parliament. We don't need to seperate; we got everything we were once denied prior to the rise of the Seperatists.
But still, as a response to your attitude towards Quebecois, have a harty
Va te faire foutre from the Black Sheep.
A) i think your off by a state or two --- as many are counting several other recently "occupied" countries as new US states. but then, unless they update thier flag i suppose not.
And now that's just being ridiculously anti-american. Afghanistan isn't a US state, nor is Irak, as both had their own elections and are forming their own governments.
B)France, Germany, and a number of other countries and powers thought the same of Russia. Last I checked, every invasion of them, as well, they bearing very much similar geography and more importantly weather as Canada, had failed miserably. As someone who is somewhat the military student, i can assure you, an invasion of Canada would be as extremely difficult; once Canada's most potent weapon is brought into play -- Nature herself.
...Do I really need to point out how you're neglecting the logistics issues of A) Canada's population is mostly placed near the US boarder, B) The US Army ain't gonna be stupid enough to attack during our snow storms, and C) Canada's army STILL SUCKS!?
As for your anti-american comments:
-Almost totaly Privatised health care, thereby ensuring only the wealthy get proper (or any in many cases) treatment
Have you seen the state of Nationalized Health Care in Canada lately? Our doctors are leaving for other countries, our hospitals are overfilled with patients and often in a state of disrepair, and if I was wealthy, I'd be going to the states for medical treatment anyway.
-A long history of violence against other nations
Which, most of the time, was a result of other nations attacking the US and it's allies first.
-hardly respected, aside of military might, across the planet
I think Machiavelli covered it best: "It is better to be feared then loved, if you cannot be both." Futhermore, back during the Cold War, the US got all the respect it deserved, for keeping the Soviet Union in check.
-Has multiplied its national debt
It's not like we Canadians have done much better.
-has slashed benifits packages for its military men and women -- IN WARTIME
You can thank the likes of Senator Kerry for that, thank you very much.
-has a convicted criminal for President (ooh THERES a promotional bellringer!)
Uh, proof of that, please? And furthermore, Paul "Subsidisation Scandal" Martin, anyone?
-Blatantly lied about the invasion of its second conquest, Iraq (gee. they have STILL to find any nukes, biochems, or infastructure to BUILD any of the such)
Saddam's used Chemical weapons in the past, including on his own people. And anyone who thinks he wasn't likely to do so in the future, even if he had to rebuilt the program from scratch, is frankly, living in a dream world. Furthermore, I believe that Irak had WMDs prior to the Invasion. ...At the very least, prior to the end of the inspections.
Don't ask why Irak doesn't have any WMDs. Ask "WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GO!?" Then, thank the UN inspectors for they hard work.
-Gone great lengths to remove any gains made by human rights movements
Ahem.. Two human-rights violating governments removed by force, and replaced with more humane democracies, right there, in under four years. Amnesty International doesn't have that good a track record.
-Has had the single biggest security breach of ANY country in history, resulting in over 3000 innocent civilian deaths - not counting those lost in the retaliatory strikes abroad
And now, I see we're going into the "Blame the Victim" mentality in terms of 9/11. Because, you know, it makes every other country feel sooo morally superior to the US to think that they brought 9/11 on themselves, instead of blaming the fanatical anti-western civilisation nutcases.
-Has withdrawn itself from the internationally recognised Court Of Law
...Which has had, what kind of positive impact on civilisation, again? The International Court of Law, or the UN itself, for that matter, has only as much influence as it can enforce. And since the lion's share of said enforcement was done by the US to begin with, I don't see what's the point of keeping up that charade.
In short, LoneWolf, Your selling Canada FAR too short when it comes to our military AND our patriotism, and giving the US far too much credit, that it has not deserved in years. But then, considering your comments, I would expect no less from what we Canucks waaaaaay up north here call "a Yankee ass kisser". Your the kind we like to say "OPEN YOUR FUCKEN EYES YA STUPID CANUCK!!" And yes, being Canuck myself, i CAN say that.
I'm just being a frickin' realist in terms of Canada's capabilities. As for me being a "yankee ass kisser"... I'm just trying to stay on friendly terms with the big, strong neighbor down south, instead of pissing him off.
Oh, and go on home, ya hoser! ...Being a canadian, I can say that.
Me... A skeptic? I trust you have proof....
