A little odd request, but...

[Bengaley]

Can someone point me in the direction of 'Right-Wing Propaganda Posters' or somesuch...?

Something thats, oh, I don't know, uber-hyper-nationalist, pro-military, pro-USA, and anti-antiAmericanism?

I spend several hours a day in an office filled with propaganda from the 'Commie I hate America' clubs which currently control the Inter-Club Council.

Every day I have to walk in and see posters saying 'AMERICA IS EVIL!' and I can't take 'em down.

...okay, they don't straight out say 'America is evil!' but these people honestly think that George W Bush shouldn't have become president because he got 27% of the vote!

...they neglect to say that they're taking that figure out of the total number of people who can vote, not those who voted.

Now, I don't like Bush, but I'll admit he probably won fair and square (I heard reports about districts reporting negative results in Ohio, and several companies that did the electronic voting were heavy contributers to Republican campaigns. When I'm not being paranoid, I say: "So what."), and that he's our president. I don't like him or the Republicans at the national level - but then again, I don't like Democrats either. But I wouldn't revolt against him - like the rhetoric from these people suggest.

..says the guy who was raised so far left he would be a communism if he thought it would work, and theorized how to engineer society so it would work.

But it doesn't, and they wouldn't let me have that power over society, so it doesn't work. :-/ These people don't seem to understand that.

And the funny thing is? I'm in Orange County, California, one of the major centers of Republicanism in the state...

But, as I said, I need help. Lots of help. >.<

/Netto

[LoneWolf23k]

Go thee to http://www.protestwarrior.com/ , my son. At their store, you can get yourself a "Hey France, You shut the Hell up, WE'll protect Civilisation" poster, a Thomas Jefferson coffee mug with one of his best quotes, and some bumber stickers with some strong, anti-liberal messages.[/url]

[Sharuuk]

Go thee to http://www.protestwarrior.com/ , my son. At their store, you can get yourself a "Hey France, You shut the Hell up, WE'll protect Civilisation" poster, a Thomas Jefferson coffee mug with one of his best quotes, and some bumber stickers with some strong, anti-liberal messages.[/url]

Dude...you just LOVE to stir the pot don'cha...hee, hee, hee....gimme a big stick and lemme help.


Shaaruuk

[Bengaley]

Thank you, LoneWolf. That 'Aside from... War solved nothing!' sign is EXACTLY what I'm looking for.

There's a sign that says 'Violence Solves Nothing'.

I'm of the mind and background that says "Violence tends to solve things with finality."

[Archae45]

Why do I get the feeling we have either:

1. A troll

2. A barking moonbat far-rightist
(Oh yes, they exist as much as the Barking Moonbat Far-Leftists do)

[LoneWolf23k]

Thank you, LoneWolf. That 'Aside from... War solved nothing!' sign is EXACTLY what I'm looking for.

There's a sign that says 'Violence Solves Nothing'.

I'm of the mind and background that says "Violence tends to solve things with finality."

You're welcome. ...My opinion on violence is as follows:
"Passive Resistance only works on people who are civilized enough to respect it, but aren't creative enough to get around it."

Gandhi and his passive resistance movement won in India because the British were civilized enough not to use unnecessary violence. Passive resistance is also used by modern protestors here in North America, and the police don't use violence unless necessary, but do have other means of dealing with them. In more savage, brutal regimes from China to Saddam's Iraq, however, passive resistance only makes you a victim.

Against brutal, savage people who oppress the weak, sometimes the only thing you can do is roll up your sleeves and show them that not every decent people are weak.

[Sharuuk]

As to passive resistance.....to paraphrase a biblical term:

If you smite me on the left cheek I shall turn the right, smite me on the right cheek, I'll break your damn arm.

Shaaruuk

[StrangeWulf13]

As to passive resistance.....to paraphrase a biblical term:

If you smite me on the left cheek I shall turn the right, smite me on the right cheek, I'll break your damn arm.

Shaaruuk

LOL I'll have to remember that one.

Why do I get the feeling we have either:

1. A troll

2. A barking moonbat far-rightist
(Oh yes, they exist as much as the Barking Moonbat Far-Leftists do)

I dunno. He seems more like a moderate with right-wing leanings (or a liberal who just doesn't quite toe the party line or drink the magic koolaid). 'Course, that probably makes him right of you, Archae, so I could see how you would perceive him as a "barking moonbat far-rightist".

Oh, btw... *puts on Grammar Cop hat* The proper ending is "-est" not "-ist". Gonna have to write you up for that.

[Sharuuk]

Oh, btw... *puts on Grammar Cop hat* The proper ending is "-est" not "-ist". Gonna have to write you up for that.

*puts on Grammer Judge robe* The charges are hereby dismissed...the citation is invalid...he had it right.....properly, it is "rightist". As it is also "leftist" and "centerist".

Shaaruuk
(Here come d' Judge) 8)

[Mad Mike]

Oh, btw... *puts on Grammar Cop hat* The proper ending is "-est" not "-ist". Gonna have to write you up for that.

*puts on Grammer Judge robe* The charges are hereby dismissed...the citation is invalid...he had it right.....properly, it is "rightist". As it is also "leftist" and "centerist".

Shaaruuk
(Here come d' Judge) 8)

Uhhh....

Actually, the word is CENTRIST.
Does this mean you've been disrobed??

(Dere go d' Judge)

[Archae45]

Oh, btw... *puts on Grammar Cop hat* The proper ending is "-est" not "-ist". Gonna have to write you up for that.

*puts on Grammer Judge robe* The charges are hereby dismissed...the citation is invalid...he had it right.....properly, it is "rightist". As it is also "leftist" and "centerist".

Shaaruuk
(Here come d' Judge) 8)

Uhhh....

Actually, the word is CENTRIST.
Does this mean you've been disrobed??

(Dere go d' Judge)

Ackkk! Nekkid Gramma judge!
(Or was it grammer judge?)

[Sharuuk]

Ohhhhh, Touche' (The powdered wig got in my way on the kb )


Shaaruuk

[Bengaley]

Well, to answer you're question, I'm actually - if you were to ask what my overall position was on Left vs Right - I'd tell you dead center. Straight on dead center.

On individual issues I have a more biased leaning, but overall - I'm center. Not a Centrist. That's different.

However, on the issue of Nationalism, I'm in the Right. Far Right. I'm a Nationalist, plain and simple. I'm of the mind that if the people made the nation work, then it'd work, and the reason it doesn't is because people are A) Lazy, B) Are convinced by a certain few that the government DOESN"T work, and will never work.

But, mind you, I was raised far left liberal and would practice communism if I thought it'd work. True Communism, not Stalinism or Leninism. Marxism.

Mind you, it doesn't, but I still wish it did.

However, I've actually met someone that makes me look more right wing than RHJunior, and this guy has his following. This following, of whom I've dubbed the 'Commie I Hate America Club', is currently in control of the Inter-Club Council, a branch of the Student Government at my college that I'm part off.

This distresses me because A) They're in charge of all events run on campus that's not associated with sports, and B) The office which I work in to do alot of my club's ICC paperwork is COVERED and PAPERED in Socialist and Anti-American propaganda.

To the point where to counter it, I feel I must go to the extreme far right. Very extreme far right. Monarchist far right. But I don't know where to go for that.

So what pops into my head but RHJunior. >.>;;

Does that explain what is going on?

[Bengaley]

Oh, and please, no talk of disrobing judges. My head hurts enough already.

[Archae45]

Oh, and please, no talk of disrobing judges. My head hurts enough already.

Yeah, that picture in Jon Stewart's book is enough to gag a buzzard.

[UncleMonty]

As far as I can tell, Ralph is more Libertarian than anything else. In it's purest form, that'd support a small, weak federal government that has few concerns beyond national defense and security. No welfare, no environmental laws, no nationalized education system, no OSHA, no medical care, no commerce department, no housing laws, no minimum wage, legalized drugs, no social security, the list goes on... except where these things reflect directly upon national defense or national security.
The individual states would have the right to perform those functions, if they wished, knowing that their population could move to another state if they felt they were being served badly.

It's an interesting philosophy. You can use heroin if you want, but your neighbors won't have to pay for your treatment afterward. If you can't afford it, you won't get any - unless a private charity takes pity on you or you live in a "welfare state".

[RHJunior]

Prezackly.

It is a chronic irritant that people would try to associate MONARCHY with being right-wing. Sorry--- all power invested in a centralized government is a DEMOCRAT thing.


"From each according to their ability, TO each according to their need" sounded sweet when Marx first invented that soundbite. It just ignores some very basic things.... the first being that in such a system, ultimate power rests in the hands not of the people with the ability, nor with the people with the need, <I>but in the hands of those who decide who gets what.</i>

Socialism depends on theft.... removal of prosperity without recompense by coercion from one person, to the benefit of another person.

A socialist should be given the same greeting as any other chicken thief--- gunfire.

[Labrusca]

A socialist should be given the same greeting as any other chicken thief--- gunfire.

RHJr really means Robert Heinlein Jr., doesn't it?

Seriously, that could have been one of his quotes.

[Tbolt]

It seemed to me that the logical absurdity of the conservative movement was anarchy; zero government involvment in an individual's life..

The liberal movement was just the opposite: total government micromanagment.

For Example: Passing through the checkout at the local quickie mart you are stopped by the local health police: "We regret to inform you, citizen, that you have exceeded your weekly sodium and cholestrol limits as prescribed by the National Health Care act of 20XX... Put the Cheezy Poofs down..."

[Bengaley]

Actually, Monarchism was the original Right Wing, and Monarchists were the original conservatives.

Now mind you, if I had to pick a party to which I felt I belonged the most that actually existed in history, it'd be the Federalists...

Of course, it doesn't mean that anymore...

But I'm comparing myself to these guys...

The ICC Director made a speech in ICC that the US Spent 300 billion dollers on 'destroying Iraq', yet has only spent 36 million on tsunami relief. In the office are signs for various anti-government socialist groups,and a sign for - this pisses me off the most - 'Free Palestine'.

If it weren't for the fact that I DIDN"T want to start a political arguement I was ill-equipped to wage at that point in time, and that the majority of the people there would have prefered me to have stayed quiet due to the fact they wanted out of there as soon as possible, I would have interuppted him and said "This is not the place for that."

Because it wasn't.

My own views on the tsunami relief vs Iraq are: We did what we did in Iraq for the wrong reasons, but I'm not complaining too much because Saddam is gone. And... I'm sorry, I'm all for compassion to my fellow man (...actually, I'm not, I've been treated rather badly by my fellow man, but...), but since when has the US been OBLIGATED to spend taxpayer money on people on foreign countries?

*rant*

*bleh*

Right. >.>;;