Why Trojan Condoms are good to use (aka dumbass email)

[BloodKnight]

Just got this delightful message from someone who hates Chronicles of Garas. Now as to why they would continue reading the comic back to front, I'm not sure. Here, have a laugh. No, I don't give a shit about 'privacy', although I will leave the jackass' email out of it. It was a rather long email, but this part I liked.

The art is rather good but the flow of action is often difficult to follow and confusing. The dialogue is also difficult to read at times both due to font/size choices, as well as your silly placement and flow of text. You're panels do not seem to be organized with thought to text as is shown by the vast number of ridiculous splts in text that serve only to annoy the reader. Your story is also not that great or intruiging. The beginning is ridiculous. heres how it comes across
some clumsy elf figure walking, oh look a bear, oh but the elf can stare down the bear bravo, oh now its a few days later for some reason and someone is jumping down a tree in what looks like it's meant to be a graceful fashion but the sound effects being so large state otherwise. And now all of a sudden we are at some gladiator match where some presumeabley scottish guy and snooty lizard are having a boring discussion.

Good art does not ever make up for bad writing, and good art does not make up for bad story and action progression.

Thanks for leeching an artist. This won't help his resume or his career.

Now people, I don't mind if you guys agree with him or not, but seriously...he is the only guy who mentions this. A lot of other people tell me that I have one of the best intros for a webcomic, probably due to the lack of "OMG LETS START A COMIC" or "HI, My name is Dickpenis and this my friend who players games all day, Winnie the Pooh" or it isn't sprite.

But, in a nutshell, do you disagree or agree with this guy? Was my writing *that* bad or is it above expectation from a guy who never wrote a comic before ? TELL ME.

Or make fun of the guy. Whatever. I need a beer.

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CoG is still on my "need to read" list, so I dunno.

Yup, I bet that was helpful.

[Corgan_dane]

I hadn't read your comic...but I just did, and I see no problem at all.

The guy's just being an arse.

It's good stuff. I'll be reading from now on.

[Birdie]

Do you need a hug or a medal or something? You only seem to post whenever you need attention made to your comic. Not everyone cares about people who hate or love your comic.

[Treeko]

Hello, thank you for using the forum as your own personal update column. The Treeko are glad to be informed.

-=*Treeko*=-

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*cough* box *cough*

[Psiogen]

There isn't really enough story yet in the comic to critique, but there's nothing wrong with it so far. That guy sounds like he's just jealous of your artist.

[BloodKnight]

Do you need a hug or a metal or something? You only seem to post whenever you need attention made to your comic.

I pretty much got as much attention as I can from the keenspace forum. I'm not posting this to pimp the comic, more like a discussion (hence the name "forums)

This forum doesn't exactly have a lot of members, so I would be surprised if I get a new reader from this topic. This post is more for people who are already fans of the comic.

That and I'm really bitchy tonight due to my work. I still need my beer.

[Treeko]

The Treeko are confused. If the post is for fans of the comic, then perhaps it would fit in better on your own forum?

http://garas.proboards18.com/

=*Treeko*=-

[BloodKnight]

The Treeko are confused. If the post is for fans of the comic, then perhaps it would fit in better on your own forum?

http://garas.proboards18.com/

=*Treeko*=-

Treeko should stop talking in third person.

Not everyone is registered to my forums. And by fans of the comic, I mean people in Keenspace. I doubt these comic artists have time to be involved in every webcomic community they happen to be fans of.

Hell, I am a fan of Van's work but I don't keep tabs on his forums. I just know his comic updates via Keenspace forums.

[Pillywiggin]

Alright, here's my 2 x 10^-2 dollars...

The art is rather good but the flow of action is often difficult to follow and confusing.

One problem I can see is that there are often several "still action" panels set on top of a larger one used to highlight specific actions. This works well when you're trying to emphasis a characters reaction by using a facial shot. However, it gets slightly confusing when the smaller panel is tryng to convey action. Seeing only a hand/foot/part of a head (?) w/o any other frame of reference makes it hard to tell what is occuring. I can tell what everything is, but sometimes I have to pause to puzzel it out and it does disrupt the flow. It might be better to try to merge some of these together into larger shots if possible or to pull the viewpoint back so that more of the surrounding area is visible.

The dialogue is also difficult to read at times both due to font/size choices, as well as your silly placement and flow of text. You're panels do not seem to be organized with thought to text as is shown by the vast number of ridiculous splts in text that serve only to annoy the reader.

All of the text is perfectly readable; the first time you changed fonts it was a bit jarring, but it is an effective way to convey different cadences of speech among various races. After the third page I'd already stopped consciously noticing it.

I have to agree that the sheer number of sentence splits is awkward. I don't think a sentence should ever been split into more then two parts, and unless you're trying to specifically sychronize text and action (ex. "he's just too bloody... slow") it should never be split across more then one panel. Toning down the number of splits would be helpful too.

Your story is also not that great or intruiging.

There's not nearly enough there to judge for greatness yet, but intruiging, yes.

The beginning is ridiculous. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ......

Good art does not ever make up for bad writing, and good art does not make up for bad story and action progression.

The art is fine. The writing and story are fine too. The trouble is the plot. CoG is an epic high fantasy comic so there should be an indepth plot, but it hasn't appeared yet. CoG has been running since July and has 15-20 pages but there has been no real forward movement. That's a bit of a stretch for some people (I still read it though! )

CoG does have one of the better intros for a webcomic that I've seen. The problem is that it still seems to be in the introductory phase.

[BloodKnight]

I have to agree that the sheer number of sentence splits is awkward. I don't think a sentence should ever been split into more then two parts, and unless you're trying to specifically sycronize text and action (ex. "he's just to bloody... slow") it should never be split across more then one panel. Toning down the number of splits would be helpful too.

Too bad I am not the one who does the lettering.

*cyber hugs pillywiggin and hands him a beer*

For a new guy with a single digit post count, you aren't half-bad.

[Treeko]

Hello, the Treeko thank you for your reply. The Treeko seek clarification: In your sentence, quoted herein, you state "And by fans of the comic, I mean people in Keenspace."

The Treeko take this to mean that you justify the creation of this topic on the assumption that enough members of Keenspace
A.) Are fans of your comic
or
B.) would care.

Please clarify for the Treeko.

-=*Treeko*=-

P.S.-- The Treeko humbly suggest this topic would have been better suited for the three Ts.

[Corgan_dane]

(thinks perhaps the Treeko is someone pulling a Spoderman, without the funny part.)

[Soap Soaperson]

Now as to why they would continue reading the comic back to front, I'm not sure.

Probably because the person wanted to make a completely founded opinion about it, rather than reading one page and judging it. I've seen people say yours is a small archive, so it's not some insurmountable task (unless the person REAAAAALLY hates it).

If someone's going to dish out critisism, it's best that they know what they're critiquing, first.

[Pillywiggin]

*cyber hugs pillywiggin and hands him a beer*

For a new guy with a single digit post count, you aren't half-bad.

*Looks down at chest*

Guy?

*Looks at age on ID*

Heck, I'll take it anyway.

[BloodKnight]

*cyber hugs pillywiggin and hands him a beer*

For a new guy with a single digit post count, you aren't half-bad.

*Looks down at chest*

Guy?

*Looks at age on ID*

Heck, I'll take it anyway.

Wait? Girl?

*takes away beer. Gives instead Mike's Hard Lemonade*

Er...are you irish by any chance?

[STrRedWolf]

Treeko, I just gotten a complaint in about you. This is not an RP forum. This is a discussion forum. If you want to RP, go to the Napping Cat's Dream over at EntertheDream.net. If you want to discuss comics in any form, or a webcomic in general, then drop the role playing and act like a player god in an out-of-character situation.

This is your one and only warning.

[Soap Soaperson]

Where was he not discussing Bloodknight's comic, STrRedWolf? He's odd, but on-topic.

[Treeko]

It is most unfortunate that the Treeko only live for 2 hours!

**DIES**

-=*Treeko*=-