What else does Scott understand?

Ghastly · Post by **Ghastly** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:10 am

You gotta join in on the fun. You just gotta.

Truly one of the funniest group parodies I've seen in some time.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:20 am

Hey... Share my secret, willya?

Soap Soaperson · Post by **Soap Soaperson** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:04 am

I don't get it. ;_;

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:08 am

Who is this Scott person?

William G · Post by **William G** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:14 am

Scott McCloud

His most famous works are "Understanding Comics", "Reinventing Comics" and "Zot"

The second book pretty much predicted that the web will be the new home for comics creators back in 2000, and here we are four years later chatting on a board about just that.

You should run of to your local library, or comic shop, and pick them up if you're at all serious about comic making and arent just in it because you figured you were better at drawing than someone else.

Soap Soaperson · Post by **Soap Soaperson** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:21 am

William G wrote:...if you're at all serious about comic making and arent just in it because you figured you were better at drawing than someone else.

Who exactly DOES that?

Derenge · Post by **Derenge** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:06 am

Soap Soaperson wrote:
William G wrote:...if you're at all serious about comic making and arent just in it because you figured you were better at drawing than someone else.
Who exactly DOES that?

That was my orignal though. I know better now.

William G · Post by **William G** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:03 pm

some people wrote:Who exactly DOES that?

Are you both asking because...

a) You're wanting me to name names so you can make fun of them?

b ) Asking because you're feeling insecure about yourselves and you'd like me to reassure you that I dont mean you?

or

c) Hoping that I can provide you with the justification to get into the online brawl you're obviously itching for?

Please be clear and concise. We wouldnt want any jumping to conclusions that arent there simply because there was some confusion over the use of the word "you"

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:49 pm

I believe she's asking for the same reason I asked a while back. It was a way of thinking pretty much strange to me, that someone would jump into something just because there's someone doing it bad. I mean, first of all I tend to compare myself with better ones rather than the worst - of course in this comparision I loose, but I also improve; Second reason why I never thought that way: I wouldn't see making comics as a challenge, specially not as competition with people who I didn't even know at that point; Third reason for not thinking that way: I had much better reasons for starting a webcomic anyway.
So I was pretty surprised when I found out that there's a lot of people who start this way. But it appeared that not only they do, but some of them turn out to be a very good comic authors.
Such are Digital War and Psiogen. It doesn't feel to me that they're ashamed of how they started, they rather tell it as anecdote.

Derenge · Post by **Derenge** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:55 pm

I was saying that at one time I thought I could draw better than others and that was something that started me drawing comics. I now know better about that and have better reasons for drawing them. I wasn't trying to ask the same question "who does that" I know who does that, it was me for a time. I'd hate for problems to arise from my poorly phrased answer.

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:09 pm

William G wrote: You should run of to your local library, or comic shop, and pick them up if you're at all serious about comic making and arent just in it because you figured you were better at drawing than someone else.

I figure the day I get serious about comic making is the day my comic dies. I comick for fun, not fame, fortune, and cookies. Also I know I'm not better at drawing than someone else, until two weeks ago I was doing a sprite comic.

Luprand · Post by **Luprand** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:53 pm

... I comic for cookies ... especially if they're chocolate chip.

I'm more than willing to draw a comic for someone who's willing to bake chocolate chip cookies for me.

--Sij

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:57 am

Soap Soaperson wrote:
William G wrote:...if you're at all serious about comic making and arent just in it because you figured you were better at drawing than someone else.
Who exactly DOES that?

I don't necessarily thing that kind of thinking is whack, and it's not because I did it that way (I didn't). Some say the best critique of a work of art, be it film, song, or comic, is to make a work of art. Your primary reasons should be your enjoyment of making comics, but if you are serious about making them, then you should have a definite idea of what you want them to be and what you don't want them to be. Part of figuring that out is to look at what's out there and figuring out what they are doing for you and what they fail to do.

Soap Soaperson · Post by **Soap Soaperson** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:35 am

William G wrote:
some people wrote:Who exactly DOES that?
Are you both asking because...

a) You're wanting me to name names so you can make fun of them?

b ) Asking because you're feeling insecure about yourselves and you'd like me to reassure you that I dont mean you?

or

c) Hoping that I can provide you with the justification to get into the online brawl you're obviously itching for?

Please be clear and concise. We wouldnt want any jumping to conclusions that arent there simply because there was some confusion over the use of the word "you"

I asked because it was a rather strange thing of you to say (and had little to do with the topic at hand). It was a rhetorical question.

Buuut, whatever makes you happy, dude.

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:30 am

Sad to say, that was the driving force for me starting my comic originally in the school paper at the college I went to. I was only considering doing it at first, but then I saw what the paper had for comics, and I figured I could do better and help improve the quality. (Sorry yeahduff. I just didn't like what I saw at the start of the year. You improved a ton from there though.) My comics ended up being pretty bad, but hey, it got me going with it, and I'm glad it did.

yeahduff already stated that there was nothing wrong with it, and there really isn't. It's how a lot of people get started in the world, from politicians to artists. And both great and horrible things have come from that. It's really all about your product in the end and not how you started it.

William G · Post by **William G** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:45 am

Soap Soaperson wrote: Buuut, whatever makes you happy, dude.

People, I assume that you're all able to read over a twelfth grade level and knew that it was an off the cuff statement. It's not something to hijack a thread over.

But if some of you insist on play this game of patticake- Go be pointlessly defensive on your own time. Dont keep wasting mine.

IVstudios · Post by **IVstudios** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:53 am

I sort of did the "I can draw better than that" thing too. It's not what made me want to start doing my comic, but it did help me get over being nervous about finaly doing it. I figured "if these people have a web comic, then there's no reason I cant handle having one too."

Soap Soaperson · Post by **Soap Soaperson** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:11 am

William G wrote:
Soap Soaperson wrote: Buuut, whatever makes you happy, dude.
People, I assume that you're all able to read over a twelfth grade level and knew that it was an off the cuff statement. It's not something to hijack a thread over.

But if some of you insist on play this game of patticake- Go be pointlessly defensive on your own time. Dont keep wasting mine.

*Soap-opera voice*

OH WILLIAM, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

All this hostility! It's like you want me to go-Van-Douchebag on you, or rake the walls with my fingernails shrieking like a banshee. Good day to you, sir!

Moving on, even though I barely know one whit about this Scott character, the parodies were pretty funny.

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:18 am

I'd recommend checking out his book "Understanding Comics." It's an insightful read, even for those who already are into comics. It's not necesarrily a How-to book actually. It's more like an overview of how comics developed over the years and how it all works. Good stuff.

Soap Soaperson · Post by **Soap Soaperson** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:20 am

Hey, cool! The book's apparently available at the campus library - with one lone copy. I'll probably check it out tomorrow (after Tropical Storm Jeanne stops taking its dump on us).