Now I only read a page or two of the thread regarding the manga comic in this forum but someone asked a different but very appropriate question:
What sets this webcomic different from the others?
Which quite honestly I find difficult to answer for most webcomics. There are so many out there that I feel there are very few topics/themes/types/etc. that have not been used already. Regarding popular comics like PvP and Penny Arcade I feel they were two of the older comics that seemed to either start the webcomic boom or come in right ahead of it. Would you think that if these two comics started now or just a year ago would they still be or become as popular as they are?
I feel the success of a webcomic is a matter of luck and timing mostly with some possibilities of marketing and product affecting popularity. What are your opinions?
Something Different, Why a webcomic?
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Success? Luck and timing mostly, yeah.
But what sets a comic apart from others? Let me show you my 'check frequently list'
Jack - Writing and character and world development.
Better Days - Unique portrayal of everyday situations.
Teacher's Lounge - *sigh* Used to be set apart by engaging art. Seems to be dead.
Faux Pas - Unique setting.
Elf Only Inn - Unique take on a chatroom; I like how the characters show their real lives through their characters on the chat.
Star Bored - Art and writing.
Digital War - Threats by the artist to remove vital organs if I don't read (kidding!) really, Uh... I'm waiting for War to destroy the planet. Seriously. That's what I eventually hope to see.
Spare Change - I'm a technician and can relate.
Those Destined - Unique main character; good writing and cliche' destruction.
Role of the Die - I'm a roleplayer and can relate.
Sawdust - Unique setting and characters.
College Roomies from Hell - I like the interaction between the characters here more than most comics.
Fallen Angels Used Books - Best art I've seen in a comic strip, period. And stunning writing too.
Pastel Defender Heliotrope - Unique story, unique world, good use of pseudo-science.
Cat Legend Comics - Good world development.
Commander Kitty - Unique story and setting.
Diety Permit - Unique story.
The noob - Excellent parody of Everquest. I "get" it.
The Mansion of E - Unique story and setting.
How Not to Run A Comic - Unique - it teaches by example.
But what sets a comic apart from others? Let me show you my 'check frequently list'
Jack - Writing and character and world development.
Better Days - Unique portrayal of everyday situations.
Teacher's Lounge - *sigh* Used to be set apart by engaging art. Seems to be dead.
Faux Pas - Unique setting.
Elf Only Inn - Unique take on a chatroom; I like how the characters show their real lives through their characters on the chat.
Star Bored - Art and writing.
Digital War - Threats by the artist to remove vital organs if I don't read (kidding!) really, Uh... I'm waiting for War to destroy the planet. Seriously. That's what I eventually hope to see.
Spare Change - I'm a technician and can relate.
Those Destined - Unique main character; good writing and cliche' destruction.
Role of the Die - I'm a roleplayer and can relate.
Sawdust - Unique setting and characters.
College Roomies from Hell - I like the interaction between the characters here more than most comics.
Fallen Angels Used Books - Best art I've seen in a comic strip, period. And stunning writing too.
Pastel Defender Heliotrope - Unique story, unique world, good use of pseudo-science.
Cat Legend Comics - Good world development.
Commander Kitty - Unique story and setting.
Diety Permit - Unique story.
The noob - Excellent parody of Everquest. I "get" it.
The Mansion of E - Unique story and setting.
How Not to Run A Comic - Unique - it teaches by example.
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I get the impression a lot of the very old and extremely popular comics - such as PvP, Sluggy and User Friendly - are popular because they're popular. A bit like Pokemon. They got in early and deserved to be popular because they were pioneers but if you released them now? Doubtful.
Ergo, what applies to them does not apply generally.
Popular comic? A certain level of artistic quality is needed and luck is certainly something of a factor. Then, each comic should have it's own unique points - Count Your Sheep, Freefall, Kid Radd and Angels 2200 all show that the more the better. This will attract your readers (and failing to have this will turn them away).
You want to keep them? Writing. Writing all the way. Even if it's just writing gags, it's still writing. College Roomies From Hell is a complete cliche - wacky adventures and college roomies - but the writing stands out and the comic is popular. Angels 2200 has a great premise but that's only a gimmick by itself. Again: Writing. It's Walky, Kid Radd, Count Your Sheep, El Goonish Shive... It's all writing. It's just different types of writing. Some are good at characters, some at plot, some at jokes, some just for a certain feel, but it is the writing that makes the work.
It's also a good idea to stay within certain limits for you comic premise. There are a few comics written by writers which are very dark or gothic or urban and they're not too popular as a rule (Clan of the Cats being a notable exception). Generally you want something light, something accessable to a wide audience and something fun. Most people, after all, would be happy seeing the latest superhero movie. Even if they don't like it as such, it's fun. It would be hard not to enjoy it as long as you don't try to take it seriously. Move away from that - say into horror or into romance - and you'll start limiting your audience to fans of the genre only.
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Ergo, what applies to them does not apply generally.
Popular comic? A certain level of artistic quality is needed and luck is certainly something of a factor. Then, each comic should have it's own unique points - Count Your Sheep, Freefall, Kid Radd and Angels 2200 all show that the more the better. This will attract your readers (and failing to have this will turn them away).
You want to keep them? Writing. Writing all the way. Even if it's just writing gags, it's still writing. College Roomies From Hell is a complete cliche - wacky adventures and college roomies - but the writing stands out and the comic is popular. Angels 2200 has a great premise but that's only a gimmick by itself. Again: Writing. It's Walky, Kid Radd, Count Your Sheep, El Goonish Shive... It's all writing. It's just different types of writing. Some are good at characters, some at plot, some at jokes, some just for a certain feel, but it is the writing that makes the work.
It's also a good idea to stay within certain limits for you comic premise. There are a few comics written by writers which are very dark or gothic or urban and they're not too popular as a rule (Clan of the Cats being a notable exception). Generally you want something light, something accessable to a wide audience and something fun. Most people, after all, would be happy seeing the latest superhero movie. Even if they don't like it as such, it's fun. It would be hard not to enjoy it as long as you don't try to take it seriously. Move away from that - say into horror or into romance - and you'll start limiting your audience to fans of the genre only.
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I disagree. Webcomics are mainly reiterating a few popular topics/setups/conceptions up to the point where they turn into a cliche. It's enough to peak in printed comics (not american, mind you, european) to see the variousity of topics that are missed in webcomics.There are so many out there that I feel there are very few topics/themes/types/etc. that have not been used already.
So why is everyone redoing the same ones then?
I have a sort of explanation. Suppose if someone asked you who is the prettiest supermodel for a surwey. And you're not a professional casting manager or fashion creator. You'll most likely say just the first one that comes to your mind, that you find very pretty. That'll probably be the one that is currently popular, the one that you recently heard something about, the one that somehow just stuck in your mind. Later, much later, you may remember models that you consider prettier.
So is with webcomics: you may try to think of new ideas but you'll have to dig a bit deeper in your brian than usually. Plus, you'll probably be influenced by some other comic, so you'll decide to follow it's tracks.
As for ideas rarely used in webcomics? I may spill out a several now:
Comics that deal with real life, but with social problems, lack of money, homelesness, or even a war. Most of real-life comics are about regular, uninteresting, middle-class people who have no other problems but romantic and, maybe, which video to rent.
Comics in historical setup. What makes "Bite me" so unusual is the decision to set it into a revolutionary France.
Detective noar is also relatively rare although I can name a couple of comics about it. So are superheroes. These topics are done by a few, but not nearly as much as S&S fantasy or autobiographical.
Also, police comics. I can't think of any webcomic with policemen in main roles on top of my mind.
Over-the-sea adventure. Like the one with pirates. Pirats appear often, but they're mostly stuck on land.
Etc. I think it's actually rather easy to get to the original ideas, you just have to shake off all influences, because if you have to draw influences, you better do it in style characteristics, or in graphic naration style, not in topic.
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McDuffie's right, there's a lot webcomics haven't drawn about. Mostly because we stick to drawing and writing about what we known and/or like, and pretty much the English speaking middle-class white male average of the internet is universal the world over.
Personally I have no idea what draws me to a comic, good writing and good art told with a little something new I suppose.
Actually, going back to the drawing what you know idea, I was thinking of starting a Game Developer's comic myself; Since, ya'know, that's my field and all. But then I realised it's a job just like any other and not very ammusing for it, that and any of the jokes would all be of the inwards kind. Not exactly the mass market / non-sould destroying comic I was hoping to write... I'm sure it can be done though; It's all in the writing.
Personally I have no idea what draws me to a comic, good writing and good art told with a little something new I suppose.
Actually, going back to the drawing what you know idea, I was thinking of starting a Game Developer's comic myself; Since, ya'know, that's my field and all. But then I realised it's a job just like any other and not very ammusing for it, that and any of the jokes would all be of the inwards kind. Not exactly the mass market / non-sould destroying comic I was hoping to write... I'm sure it can be done though; It's all in the writing.
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I agree with McDuffies.
The way I see it, the problem is that other much more diverse and niche genres really need much in the way of research to be overcome before the comic can be started, whereas your usual generic life or humour comic featurs material that is easily and widely accessible or consists of things brought up the top of the artists head 5 minutes prior.
Considering that most people who make webcomics are just young people doing it for the fun of it, and cannot spend a lot of time on their comics the internet is saturated with the latter.
The way I see it, the problem is that other much more diverse and niche genres really need much in the way of research to be overcome before the comic can be started, whereas your usual generic life or humour comic featurs material that is easily and widely accessible or consists of things brought up the top of the artists head 5 minutes prior.
Considering that most people who make webcomics are just young people doing it for the fun of it, and cannot spend a lot of time on their comics the internet is saturated with the latter.
There are plenty of interesting things to talk about. I'm a manga/anime fan, so I read those. Some have really interesting ideas that have been done before, but not overly so. They show that some things that are over-the-top are not necessarily bad.
Yakitate Japan - One of my favorite ones. It's a comedy about a boy who wants to make a bread that is unique to Japan (a bread making manga... WTF???). It makes an extreme parody of DBZ and a host of other things. The outrageous story-telling makes it hilarious.
Death Note - In the world of death gods, deciding who will die in the human world has become a tedious routine. What if you gave a human the ability to decide who will die? It's been done before, but the unique angle is the mental struggle: why don't I just kill the bad people? People will be glad they died! But still, do I have the right?
Say Hello to Blackjack - This is a very serious political commentary on the state of medicine in Japan. Who said comics had to be funny?
Then there're unique American comics. Right now I can only think of "100 Bullets:" if you were given a chance to kill the one person that made your life go wrong, what would you do? A very engaging conspiracy theory comic.
Yakitate Japan - One of my favorite ones. It's a comedy about a boy who wants to make a bread that is unique to Japan (a bread making manga... WTF???). It makes an extreme parody of DBZ and a host of other things. The outrageous story-telling makes it hilarious.
Death Note - In the world of death gods, deciding who will die in the human world has become a tedious routine. What if you gave a human the ability to decide who will die? It's been done before, but the unique angle is the mental struggle: why don't I just kill the bad people? People will be glad they died! But still, do I have the right?
Say Hello to Blackjack - This is a very serious political commentary on the state of medicine in Japan. Who said comics had to be funny?
Then there're unique American comics. Right now I can only think of "100 Bullets:" if you were given a chance to kill the one person that made your life go wrong, what would you do? A very engaging conspiracy theory comic.
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Yeah, its true they are lot of niches filled.
But there will be a time when a comic is out there and it does it so damn well, that it not only does it fill the niche, it represents it. They use your comic to describe that niche.
Example, you would use PvP or Penny Arcade to describe a gaming comic.
I don't think it has anything to do with luck or timing. I think it is more of "wow, you know..its actually good"
Elf Only Inn got spotted not because of its artwork, but because the whole damn thing is funny. Jack is well-noticed because it is something many people can relate to and that it's gorey (personally, I think its going downhill as of late). Better Days looks at the common problems in our life with a unique view of things.
In the end, there is two things that matter: Good art, and good writing.
You need to be adequate to draw your art, otherwise people won't take you 100% seriously. You can be the world's greatest storyteller, but people will think you're an amateur if you draw like ass or don't even get someone to help you draw it.
The writing has to be there, always bringing something new and fresh to your plot and world. If your characters appear to shallow to be funny or there isn't something intersting going on, then it will fall flat.
By your defination, things like Lord of the Rings or Dune shouldn't have been made because it isn't 'light'. Go ahead, tell me with a straight face that LOTR sucked because it wasn't 'light'.
The most remorable stories are the ones that always fill the niche and bought something to the table. These stories are told down by generation and generation. You hear stuff like Romero and Juilet, Macbeth, Batman (the 80s one), and even the anime Berserk or Eva.
All webcomics try to fill a niche, that's all they are. Penny Arcade is a gaming niche. Squidi is a sprite niche. Elf Only Inn is "stupid dumbass roleplayers in a chatroom" niche. Something Positive is "Friends with the word FUCK" niche. They are all niches either way you look at it.
If you're a good writer and want to go for something serious, go ahead. I guarantee that the comic will be remembered much more then another Penny-Arcade clone.
But there will be a time when a comic is out there and it does it so damn well, that it not only does it fill the niche, it represents it. They use your comic to describe that niche.
Example, you would use PvP or Penny Arcade to describe a gaming comic.
I don't think it has anything to do with luck or timing. I think it is more of "wow, you know..its actually good"
Elf Only Inn got spotted not because of its artwork, but because the whole damn thing is funny. Jack is well-noticed because it is something many people can relate to and that it's gorey (personally, I think its going downhill as of late). Better Days looks at the common problems in our life with a unique view of things.
In the end, there is two things that matter: Good art, and good writing.
You need to be adequate to draw your art, otherwise people won't take you 100% seriously. You can be the world's greatest storyteller, but people will think you're an amateur if you draw like ass or don't even get someone to help you draw it.
The writing has to be there, always bringing something new and fresh to your plot and world. If your characters appear to shallow to be funny or there isn't something intersting going on, then it will fall flat.
I disagree with this (except for the fun part). If you do this, the only thing you're going for is trying to copy-cat some other comic out there. "OOOH LOOK, WE'RE GAMERS PALYING GAMES. WOOHOO HERE COMES THE MONEY TRAIN." That shit is forgottable.Generally you want something light, something accessable to a wide audience and something fun.
By your defination, things like Lord of the Rings or Dune shouldn't have been made because it isn't 'light'. Go ahead, tell me with a straight face that LOTR sucked because it wasn't 'light'.
The most remorable stories are the ones that always fill the niche and bought something to the table. These stories are told down by generation and generation. You hear stuff like Romero and Juilet, Macbeth, Batman (the 80s one), and even the anime Berserk or Eva.
All webcomics try to fill a niche, that's all they are. Penny Arcade is a gaming niche. Squidi is a sprite niche. Elf Only Inn is "stupid dumbass roleplayers in a chatroom" niche. Something Positive is "Friends with the word FUCK" niche. They are all niches either way you look at it.
If you're a good writer and want to go for something serious, go ahead. I guarantee that the comic will be remembered much more then another Penny-Arcade clone.
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I was talking about popularlity rather than quality, remember. LOTR might service a big niche, but it's still a niche. It's also a difficult read. Harry Potter and the Discworld books, however, are lighter, easier and more fun and have expanded far, far outside their niches. HP was meant to be a childrens series and Terry Pratchet intended his books for young adults. Both are read by people of all age groups, by people who generally prefer genres other than fantasy and even by people who do not read books.
I never mentioned gamers. Nor RPGs, roomies, Penny Arcade, sword and sorcery, urban fantasy, sci-fi, western or, indeed, any genre. I said "light and fun" and that does not restrict the genre. There are thousands of things not yet done in webcomics that could easily fall under that category.
It is simply a feel that the story has, and it is one that will make the story more accessable to more people.
Line up a hundred people and tell them they all decide together which movie to see. Give them an option of a romance, a horror flick, a dark, psychological thriller, a children's movie and one of Hollywood's better light, fun, action flicks.
They'll probably go for the last one because of it's accessability and generic appeal. They might go for the children's movie but it'd be for roughly the same reasons.
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I never mentioned gamers. Nor RPGs, roomies, Penny Arcade, sword and sorcery, urban fantasy, sci-fi, western or, indeed, any genre. I said "light and fun" and that does not restrict the genre. There are thousands of things not yet done in webcomics that could easily fall under that category.
It is simply a feel that the story has, and it is one that will make the story more accessable to more people.
Line up a hundred people and tell them they all decide together which movie to see. Give them an option of a romance, a horror flick, a dark, psychological thriller, a children's movie and one of Hollywood's better light, fun, action flicks.
They'll probably go for the last one because of it's accessability and generic appeal. They might go for the children's movie but it'd be for roughly the same reasons.
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I honestly don't know how to answer this, because I reckon I'm a bit of an odd one out in regards to webcomics...
I started drawing this webcomic because a friend suggested we start one, I said 'like I have the time' then fiddled with some figures based on a story I was working on, and emailed back some swear words, and the rest is history...
I mean, I wasn't even a webcomic reader when I started. Yeah, sure, I'd been introduced to Sluggy, and I read through probably 150 cartoons at this same friend's house but I haven't been back since...not that I didn't enjoy it, I just didn't read webcomics...
Now though, yeah, I read a few...but I don't think I read any popular or 'big' ones...
I mean...
In His Likeness - God portrayed as a dot - I wish it would update again, cos I was enjoying it...
On The Playground - I stumbled on this one and thought 'hey, one that fits in whatever genre I'm working in'
Thatguy - cos it reminded me of Calvin and Hobbes who I only ever got to read in the newspapers, although I am recognising the cliche'd settings and stuff, but the characters are great.
Cortland - because the writer sent me an email saying 'hey, your comic's cool' and I thought I'd check his out in return and have since stayed...
and Fever Dream because it is bright, simple, fun and cute.
I mean, I don't think there's many there that would be considered big, popular comics, meaning no offense to the writers, cos I like reading them, but you'll notice no manga or in fact any of the other comics mentioned above...
I reckon people just find stuff they enjoy and stick to it...I don't like to think people read popular comics BECAUSE they're popular and it's expected...I hope that isn't the case...I found Seinfeld like that, but that's a different story...
If this has regressed to such an extent that it has nothing to do with whatever I was replying too, I am sorry, but the weekend has started and I already have one bourbon under my belt...
I started drawing this webcomic because a friend suggested we start one, I said 'like I have the time' then fiddled with some figures based on a story I was working on, and emailed back some swear words, and the rest is history...
I mean, I wasn't even a webcomic reader when I started. Yeah, sure, I'd been introduced to Sluggy, and I read through probably 150 cartoons at this same friend's house but I haven't been back since...not that I didn't enjoy it, I just didn't read webcomics...
Now though, yeah, I read a few...but I don't think I read any popular or 'big' ones...
I mean...
In His Likeness - God portrayed as a dot - I wish it would update again, cos I was enjoying it...
On The Playground - I stumbled on this one and thought 'hey, one that fits in whatever genre I'm working in'
Thatguy - cos it reminded me of Calvin and Hobbes who I only ever got to read in the newspapers, although I am recognising the cliche'd settings and stuff, but the characters are great.
Cortland - because the writer sent me an email saying 'hey, your comic's cool' and I thought I'd check his out in return and have since stayed...
and Fever Dream because it is bright, simple, fun and cute.
I mean, I don't think there's many there that would be considered big, popular comics, meaning no offense to the writers, cos I like reading them, but you'll notice no manga or in fact any of the other comics mentioned above...
I reckon people just find stuff they enjoy and stick to it...I don't like to think people read popular comics BECAUSE they're popular and it's expected...I hope that isn't the case...I found Seinfeld like that, but that's a different story...
If this has regressed to such an extent that it has nothing to do with whatever I was replying too, I am sorry, but the weekend has started and I already have one bourbon under my belt...
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I remembered two more undiscovered grounds in webcomics. What's more, you don't need much preparation because those are themes anyone knows at least a bit about.
Western - cowboys and indians, shootdowns and the noon, etc. I can't remember I've seen any cowboy webcomic.
Adventure soilder story - although Ratz comics might turn out to be the one, we'll see.
Western - cowboys and indians, shootdowns and the noon, etc. I can't remember I've seen any cowboy webcomic.
Adventure soilder story - although Ratz comics might turn out to be the one, we'll see.
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I don't think mine counts... Ninjas and Snipers? Wtf? O.omcDuffies wrote:Adventure soilder story - although Ratz comics might turn out to be the one, we'll see.
And if it does count, then you've also got Alpha Shade - Although I have to say I haven't seen much more of the soldier genre other than that, The Fan is by and about soldiers but that's not really an adventure. I used to know an awesome WW2 comic artist I airsofted with, but sadly he died three years back, his work was so historically accurate and wonderfully illustrated, I miss him... Must find his stuff again someday.
As for Westerns, well there's Daisy Kutter by the Bolt City guy, alas, that's only a print one. Looks good though.
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I just thought of some more: In most of comics, there's a lust&love relation, a male character lusting over his eternal love or oposite. They are ment for each other, etc, etc, etc, and even though we wait to see what's gonna happen in the end, we all know what's gonna happen, we just wait to see how.
('course, credits to Pin for starting this topic in his interview)
There's one other interesting scenario: Guy runs after a girl, and finally falls in love with a girl he meets by the way, like her best friend or something. Or the same with oposite genders.
Why is this scenario more suitable than the first one?
1. It happens in reality more often. Believe me, I've seen it.
2. It gives a twist in a story, something unexpected, something to make you actually want to know what's gonna happen.
3. It's kinda logical, if you think about it.
That's why I wonder why it isn't used more often. So far the only case I can remember was in first year of "Stubble".
And I know lots of us would gladly write scripts for her, as a favour.
('course, credits to Pin for starting this topic in his interview)
There's one other interesting scenario: Guy runs after a girl, and finally falls in love with a girl he meets by the way, like her best friend or something. Or the same with oposite genders.
Why is this scenario more suitable than the first one?
1. It happens in reality more often. Believe me, I've seen it.
2. It gives a twist in a story, something unexpected, something to make you actually want to know what's gonna happen.
3. It's kinda logical, if you think about it.
That's why I wonder why it isn't used more often. So far the only case I can remember was in first year of "Stubble".
Actually, I think Kkb needs a writes, as she seems to be stuck with ideas.rkolter wrote:Teacher's Lounge - *sigh* Used to be set apart by engaging art. Seems to be dead.
And I know lots of us would gladly write scripts for her, as a favour.
proposed script by mcDuffies wrote: Kitty gets a shower.
After a shower, Kitty rubs oil on her skin.
Five panels of kitty rubbing oil on her skin.
CJ Burgundy enters the room, carrying some more skin oil.
CJ: Let me help you with that oil!
...
etc, you get the picture.
Hmm... I don't think that whole skin oil thing would quite work KKB being furry and all.mcDuffies wrote:Actually, I think Kkb needs a writes, as she seems to be stuck with ideas.rkolter wrote:Teacher's Lounge - *sigh* Used to be set apart by engaging art. Seems to be dead.
And I know lots of us would gladly write scripts for her, as a favour.proposed script by mcDuffies wrote: Kitty gets a shower.
After a shower, Kitty rubs oil on her skin.
Five panels of kitty rubbing oil on her skin.
CJ Burgundy enters the room, carrying some more skin oil.
CJ: Let me help you with that oil!
...
etc, you get the picture.
Perhaps, if we had a couple of centerfolds of her grooming herself...
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Here is my 'check whenever I'm bored' list
Least I could do - The writing is really spot-on in terms of humor. The characters are steoreotypical and deep, yet shallow enough to be funny. These guys want to get on TV, and I wouldn't be suprised if they did. With more pratice, it can be like the Canadian version of Family guy.
Jack - It started out as a well-written comic. Lately, I have been rather bored since David's stories are now follow a formula (show typical life of guy, introduce problem, see the actions of this problem, solve it). Also, David is suffering in mature comics which I like to call "show violence and sex for the hell of it". His latest story arc is just slapping sex in for the mere shock of it. To me, it just screams out "look, boobs, look how mature I am for drawing boobs." I still read it every now and then.
Better Days - A furry comic that isn't totally based on furry fandom crap. No worries about giant female lions with a bone-crushing vagina or devouring each other. Although the artist has a little thing with mice, his Better Days comic has no sex in it. If anything, its suggestive.
PvP - Funny stuff. Kurtz might be an arrogant prick, but he does know how to make a good comic.
Alpha Shade - This is more like "sometimes I check it out" type of comic. The artwork is good, storyline is interesting, but the whole theme just seems whacked. As soon as I saw a cat leading a group of soldiers, my first thought was "wtf"
But that is some nice artwork. The web page could be much better though.
Squidi - The creator of this comic is a whiny sob who complains about copyright over his pixel art. I understand when someone fuck's up your copyright, but pixels? No, that is just stepping over the line.
Unlike most comics, this one has really great writing, plots, characters, and humor. The creator needs to get some social skills though.
Sinfest - Just funny. "nuff said
Spells and Whistles - This needs to be an animation primetime ASAP. This has to be one of the most funniest comics I've read in a long time. Best of all, its in fantasy. Mace-rape galore.
Go me.
Least I could do - The writing is really spot-on in terms of humor. The characters are steoreotypical and deep, yet shallow enough to be funny. These guys want to get on TV, and I wouldn't be suprised if they did. With more pratice, it can be like the Canadian version of Family guy.
Jack - It started out as a well-written comic. Lately, I have been rather bored since David's stories are now follow a formula (show typical life of guy, introduce problem, see the actions of this problem, solve it). Also, David is suffering in mature comics which I like to call "show violence and sex for the hell of it". His latest story arc is just slapping sex in for the mere shock of it. To me, it just screams out "look, boobs, look how mature I am for drawing boobs." I still read it every now and then.
Better Days - A furry comic that isn't totally based on furry fandom crap. No worries about giant female lions with a bone-crushing vagina or devouring each other. Although the artist has a little thing with mice, his Better Days comic has no sex in it. If anything, its suggestive.
PvP - Funny stuff. Kurtz might be an arrogant prick, but he does know how to make a good comic.
Alpha Shade - This is more like "sometimes I check it out" type of comic. The artwork is good, storyline is interesting, but the whole theme just seems whacked. As soon as I saw a cat leading a group of soldiers, my first thought was "wtf"
But that is some nice artwork. The web page could be much better though.
Squidi - The creator of this comic is a whiny sob who complains about copyright over his pixel art. I understand when someone fuck's up your copyright, but pixels? No, that is just stepping over the line.
Unlike most comics, this one has really great writing, plots, characters, and humor. The creator needs to get some social skills though.
Sinfest - Just funny. "nuff said
Spells and Whistles - This needs to be an animation primetime ASAP. This has to be one of the most funniest comics I've read in a long time. Best of all, its in fantasy. Mace-rape galore.
Go me.
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Yeah I think everyone is on the ball about unique comics, and that there are a lot of stuff not being done. a lot of genres and ideas that have not been seen before.
I think my webcomic though "real life" is very diffrent from everything else I've ever seen. I get excited when I see comics that are "sorta close" to mine. Retail comics, subculture comics, and even closer to the art style I use. But I think my comic is far from a "cliche" or anything that isn't unique. And there are a lot of other comics like that. sure you could say every "broad" area like gamers, real life, fantasy, future, and stuff like that has been done. but the way it is done sometimes makes the diffrence.
Night and day could be conicidered RPG or space-age. But its the first star wars d20 story I've ever seen, and when I first started reading it I didn't even know it was a star wars thing till I see a light saber.
Star bored is Sci-fi, but the way its written its more cartoony and funny, also very original in the way it comes across.
Those are just two examples, but I hope my point is clear. Its sort of like music. You can say "oh every type of music has been done before. but thats cause yer eyes are to fixed on genre and label and not on the concept or integrity of the artist to create somthing fresh. whether if its about life or console systems even in those "genres" there's still a lot to do to make somthing fresh.
I think my webcomic though "real life" is very diffrent from everything else I've ever seen. I get excited when I see comics that are "sorta close" to mine. Retail comics, subculture comics, and even closer to the art style I use. But I think my comic is far from a "cliche" or anything that isn't unique. And there are a lot of other comics like that. sure you could say every "broad" area like gamers, real life, fantasy, future, and stuff like that has been done. but the way it is done sometimes makes the diffrence.
Night and day could be conicidered RPG or space-age. But its the first star wars d20 story I've ever seen, and when I first started reading it I didn't even know it was a star wars thing till I see a light saber.
Star bored is Sci-fi, but the way its written its more cartoony and funny, also very original in the way it comes across.
Those are just two examples, but I hope my point is clear. Its sort of like music. You can say "oh every type of music has been done before. but thats cause yer eyes are to fixed on genre and label and not on the concept or integrity of the artist to create somthing fresh. whether if its about life or console systems even in those "genres" there's still a lot to do to make somthing fresh.
<KittyKatBlack> You look deranged. But I mean that in the nicest way possible. ^_^;