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Yes, but with Marvel you're guaranteed a good salary.
I mean, in the 1980s Todd McFarlane was making about $1,000,000 a year.

For most artists now it's probably MUCH less than that, but the paychecks they recieve from companies like Marvel and DC are nothing to sniff at.
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Van Douchebag wrote:Yes, but with Marvel you're guaranteed a good salary.
I mean, in the 1980s Todd McFarlane was making about $1,000,000 a year.

For most artists now it's probably MUCH less than that, but the paychecks they recieve from companies like Marvel and DC are nothing to sniff at.
Don't you have this type of salary if you're famous?

As I said in my previous topic, I'm probably talking out of my ass here, but doesn't the comic industry work somewhat identical to the movie industry where name = money?
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Van Douchebag wrote:Yes, but with Marvel you're guaranteed a good salary.
I mean, in the 1980s Todd McFarlane was making about $1,000,000 a year.

For most artists now it's probably MUCH less than that, but the paychecks they recieve from companies like Marvel and DC are nothing to sniff at.
Debatable too. Times are not as easy for USA comic publishers as they were. With their lack of creativity and vision, they made popularity of comics constantly drop (which would happen inevitably with video games and stuff eventually, but they helped it still). As I understand publishers are mostly living off making comic versions of popular series and games, while original comics (I mean, comics by comics, not that the content is particulary original) are not even covering expenses. Marvel makes it's money from movie versions of their comics, not from comics themself (and you can imagine why, the most creative move they made lately was making new, 'modernized' versions of old comics, with practically the same scripts.
I mean, look at Spiderman, if that comic is valued for something, it's Kirby's dynamic art. Kirby is still considered one of the great masters of comics - although I personally think that it's overblown.
But they took away Kirby's art, and leave Lee's fragile script. Sure, that's how they're gonna attract new generations to comics, huh?
But thruthfully, that action was just throwing the ball back: Film based on comic was popular, now they're basing a new comic on film - that comic is not ment to rely on old comic, but on film - to cash in on it's popularity)

Anyway, back on subject, from what I know, if you're inker, you're gonna have to work on at least four different comics to make a living (if you don't support the family, that is). Pencilers get more, yes, but they're never gonna give a new artist penciler position, not to mention the chance to be a full artist. You'd have to work the ink a couple of years before being promoted. Script writers, to my knowing, get even less, but they can do more work in same amount of time. But becoming a script-writer is as hard as becaming a hollywood star, so I've heard.

Of course, if you're lucky/good enough to became insanely popular, you might get a chance to earn million a year, but I'm talking about the average here.

Sooo, with Marvel you're guaranteed a salary, but you're not guaranted that you can live comfortably with that salary. Not nowadays.

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I heard Todd McFarlene doens't even do anything anymor.e.. he just orders people around to make his stuff... lucky stiff...

But anyway, What about my comic? Seem worthy enough to Spot?
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andrewdickman wrote:I heard Todd McFarlene doens't even do anything anymor.e.. he just orders people around to make his stuff... lucky stiff...

But anyway, What about my comic? Seem worthy enough to Spot?
Artwork is good, so far the writing is very adequate with the nature (Cartoonish violence), I'm suprised you haven't been added yet.

This is a good thing, because I'm rather picky about fantasy webcomics. I'm trying to avoid the cliches in mine. If a cliche is involved, it gets noticed by the characters real quick.

I would submit it if I were you once you get more pages.
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I'm rather picky about fantasy webcomics. I'm trying to avoid the cliches in mine.
I DON'T!

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I'm trying to sexually molest the cliches in mine.
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alschroeder wrote:
faub wrote:
BloodKnight wrote:...stuff...

http://garas.keenspace.com/
Holy freakin' crap! :o

Spotted? Why hasn't your artist submitted his work to Marvel?
Wow.
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Wow, so far good responses.

But I need people in the forums :( It's boring waiting a week.

I'm already done writing the script for chapter 2. Go me.
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Bekka wrote:
I'm rather picky about fantasy webcomics. I'm trying to avoid the cliches in mine.
I DON'T!
Ah, well, there's using cliches and then there's actually using cliches. If you actually have a task for the cliche - a bait ready for a switch, an aside to some other work or, in your case, to make jokes of - then that's entirely different to simply including them.

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JF, is that your avatar leaving his last message at the light of a torch, lost in the Blair Witch forest? :)
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Bekka wrote:JF, is that your avatar leaving his last message at the light of a torch, lost in the Blair Witch forest? :)
I think he just got exterminated by a Dalek. (as in "Genesis of the Dalek", it's somehow connected with beeing colour inversed... he should be flashing though.)
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andrewdickman wrote:What about my comic? Seem worthy enough to Spot?
You do need to fix the links on your site. Some of the pages don't work.

I'm wondering what this comic would look like colored. Otherwise, I think the artwork is excellent.

Even though I like the story I have a number of issues with it. They boil down to "I've read this story before, not once but many times." Compared to Tales of the Questor, your comic really doesn't introduce anything new to the genre. I'd have to say no to spotting, but I'm in a picky mood.

Don't listen to me. Send an email to Chris Crosby. Ask him what he thinks. He's one of the four people who counts anyway.

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Van Douchebag wrote: so who's next?

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Is that a joke or a hint?

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Most likely a joke.
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McBean wrote:
Van Douchebag wrote: so who's next?

:wink:
I demand your first paycheck!

You can pay me in hot gay sex too, if you want.

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RPin wrote:
McBean wrote:
Van Douchebag wrote: so who's next?

:wink:
I demand your first paycheck!

You can pay me in hot gay sex too, if you want.
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Van Douchebag wrote:Yes, but with Marvel you're guaranteed a good salary.
I mean, in the 1980s Todd McFarlane was making about $1,000,000 a year.

For most artists now it's probably MUCH less than that, but the paychecks they recieve from companies like Marvel and DC are nothing to sniff at.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the average Marvel/DC comicbook artist (penciler, inker, colourist, etc.) starts off at something like $25K a year. I think you have to be pretty famous and experienced before they start giving you the $1M salaries. You probably have to be pretty famous and experienced before they start giving you the $100K salaries.

Also I doubt there are too many comic artists now adays pulling in the salaries that comic artists got in the 80s. Hell, the comicbook industry barely survived the excesses of the 80s.

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$25,000 American is enough to live on unless you like living beyond your means.
I mean, in the past, webcomic authors have raised $20,000 so they can stop working for a year and do their comic.

I'd like to know how much Penny-Arcade collectively rakes in, or what Kurtzy makes.
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