The plot thickens

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:30 am

Man, both Ben and Piff know a lot of businesses in the local area and their relative position to each other. A bit of a stretch, but okay...

Apparently, the plan was to draw all police away from the bank. Something serious is going down.

Squirrelly61104 · Post by **Squirrelly61104** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:43 am

Look at the grouse! Look at the grouse!

Oh look! A convenient distraction!

Personally, I would have gone for 'Hey look! The Goodrich blimp', but that's just cause I remember advertising campaigns long after they should have faded away.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:24 am

[...unWARP!!!]

Good evening.

So now we know for sure that Lily is in trouble...

Ransom Returns · Post by **Ransom Returns** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:26 am

I suppose one "good" point about this is that if the idea is to distract the police, they're probably thinking "get in, get the money, and get out" as quickly as possibly, and not looking for anything like a hostage situation. If they get caught and trapped there, then who knows how they'll react?

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:58 pm

I wonder how thoroughly Lobo thought this out.

1) Lure all the cops away from the bank by committing enough small but "noisy" crimes to pull the police beyond their response range for an alarm. (Error #1 - somebody put all the robberies the same distance from the bank, making a circle of cops.)

2) Hit the bank. In and out, real fast, now that there's nothing to get in the way. (Error #2 - the bank's crowded.)

3) Once outside the bank with no cops, we can get away easily. (Error #3 - the cops are in a big circle around the bank already.)

Kazora · Post by **Kazora** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:16 pm

Sure, they came up with the idea fast--but look at it this way. Piff is the summation of Ben's creativity; as a manifestation of it, he could come up with the answer nearly instantly. Ben could have come to the same conclusion eventually, but it would have taken a bit longer, is all.

Having physical manifestations of your personality can be useful sometimes. =>

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:45 pm

Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber - and Ben could be in trouble for doing it even if he isn't an officer... It was deserved, of course, but we have several very powerful political-action groups (ACLU for instance) earnestly protecting criminals from society.

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:06 am

UncleMonty wrote:Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber - and Ben could be in trouble for doing it even if he isn't an officer... It was deserved, of course, but we have several very powerful political-action groups (ACLU for instance) earnestly protecting criminals from society.

The try to protect everybody, actually, but their defense of a criminal's rights makes better headlines. (And they probably do spend more time making sure suspects and criminals don't have their rights violated. History proves it's very easy to think the ends justify the means.)

But you've got to admit, it's a funny gag. And a bit of wish fulfillment, kind of like watching the "maveric cop" go after the bad guy.

Ponygirl · Post by **Ponygirl** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:53 am

UncleMonty wrote:Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber

Technically I thought Ben wasn't police...

And just cause they're not supposed to doesn't mean they don't.

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:32 am

Earl McClaw wrote: They [the ACLU] try to protect everybody, actually, but their defense of a criminal's rights makes better headlines. (And they probably do spend more time making sure suspects and criminals don't have their rights violated. History proves it's very easy to think the ends justify the means.)

But you've got to admit, it's a funny gag. And a bit of wish fulfillment, kind of like watching the "maveric cop" go after the bad guy.

Actually, the ACLU has never, in its entire history, defended the right to bear arms as guaranteed by the second amendment. Ever.

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:55 pm

Earl McClaw wrote:
UncleMonty wrote:Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber - and Ben could be in trouble for doing it even if he isn't an officer... It was deserved, of course, but we have several very powerful political-action groups (ACLU for instance) earnestly protecting criminals from society.
The try to protect everybody, actually, but their defense of a criminal's rights makes better headlines. (And they probably do spend more time making sure suspects and criminals don't have their rights violated. History proves it's very easy to think the ends justify the means.)

But you've got to admit, it's a funny gag. And a bit of wish fulfillment, kind of like watching the "maveric cop" go after the bad guy.

You are free to believe the ACLU to be an organization dedicated to helping the underprivilaged, but I hope you pay them close attention in the future. Who do they help? what political party benefits from their work? What political party supports them?

The ACLU isn't all bad. Much like the Hell's Angels, they have to do some good to keep up their image - such as it is. However, I am at a loss to recall any incident in which the ACLU supported any, even a small "Mom-and-Pop" business, against even the most outrageous lawsuit initiated by a customer. Nor do I recall them supporting any organizations affialiated with a mainstream religion. Or supporting any complaint made by parents against any public school system. In short, the ACLU will provide their very powerful and wealthy support for a very narrow range of cases - all of which tend to empower one political party.
I also add; if a person suspected of a crime is not of that political party, the ACLU will not help, and may attack, that person.

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:34 pm

UncleMonty wrote:I also add; if a person suspected of a crime is not of that political party, the ACLU will not help, and may attack, that person.

Not entirely true. The ACLU did come to the defense of Rush Limbaugh.

RDB · Post by **RDB** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:05 am

UncleMonty wrote:Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber - and Ben could be in trouble for doing it even if he isn't an officer...

If Ben was arrested for assault he'd probably get convicted, like I had to for this poor father who punched out his daughter's punk boyfriend

<a href="http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/juryduty.txt">My jury duty experience</A>

I need to add an epilogue someday that at least the guy got probation...

Ron

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:09 am

[...unWARP!!!]

Good evening.

Still, you gotta love those fangs...

Squeaky Bunny · Post by **Squeaky Bunny** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:44 pm

Hmmmm. Looks like Ben was taking magic lessons from Mr. Garibaldi.

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:45 pm

maxgoof wrote:
UncleMonty wrote:I also add; if a person suspected of a crime is not of that political party, the ACLU will not help, and may attack, that person.
Not entirely true. The ACLU did come to the defense of Rush Limbaugh.

Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected, and am happy to see that the organization which filed suit against the state of Kansas in an attempt to reduce the age of sexual consent to 13, and defended the group known as NAMBLA, is not entirely corrupt.

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:01 pm

Ponygirl wrote:
UncleMonty wrote:Police can't treat people the way Ben's treating the robber
Technically I thought Ben wasn't police...

And just cause they're not supposed to doesn't mean they don't.

" and Ben could be in trouble for doing it even if he isn't an officer..."

I have no sympathy for "bad cops" either. I suppose seeing violent criminals released back into society, that the officer risked his or her life to arrest, might wear on one's nerves - but when an officer takes on the role of "punisher" that officer has become a criminal.

I wish they'd bring back the TV series "Sledge Hammer"... The funniest parody of the "Rogue Cop" genre I've ever seen. And making bad cops look like fools instead of vigilante heroes can't be all bad.

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