To Lag, Ratbert and anybody interested in furries :P

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:22 am

Right Click and Save as this movie

I saw this movie on BBC. My God, even the media is against us! So anybody who draws walkin' talkin' animals, should probably just slit their wrists now. Remember to cut down the wrist, not across!

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:43 am

Gee, this isn't biased reporting at all.

LAGtheNoggin · Post by **LAGtheNoggin** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:57 am

Woa... half an hour movie, not used to that long watching a single box on the computer o.O

... Eh, wouldn't say the media's against Furrys as such after seeing that, evidently the presenter likes some of the ideas but is ultimately freaked out by the extremists, well duuhhh 9.9

Overall impression of the show though; Louis Theroux's Wierd Weekend badly copied with a presenter not really malleable or charming enough... Who knows, could have been a bad episode but I can't shake the feeling the Louis Theroux team would have done it so much better without all the discomfort... Odd they choose to do these kinds of shows in America or other countrys though. Kinda' keeps it at arm's length I suppose...

As for the extremists themselves; Oh gods! The hugging! Jeezus christ if there's anything I hate more than Hugging it's probably a lack of alcohol... But hugging's pretty high up on my list of dislikes! Grrr... >.<
(unless the person offering said hug happens to be a shexy lady and quite close to me friendship wise, otherwise; fuck off. ^.^ )
Oh, and yeah, those furres, they're pretty freaky, but hey, that's just human.

Finally; This is quite definetly the definition of Biased Reporting. You learn to take the real thing down a few notches, but it's always nice to see where the extremists end... Anywho, it's just TV ^.^

I wonder if they'll ever do a Wierd Report show on Extreme Comic Artists...

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:04 am

"Right, today I'll be participating in Solitary Confinement, where I lock myself in a room for 24 hours and try to produce 24 pages of comics"

That would be a good news report. Why wasn't that done?!? Stupid furries, just because they enhance themselves surgically they get their own tv special. Well... I'll show them...

... not really.

Ratbert · Post by **Ratbert** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 8:21 am

See, these people are just extremists. Too bad I'm at school right now in the Media Center on a hurt back from gym class and I probably shouldn't watch it, but I will when I get home. But anyway, there are a lot of people who take it too far, and as a result, all of us who draw animals are looked down upon.

I remember on some other board I was flamed because they said it was a furry comic, which it is, but not really by much.

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 1:16 pm

Gee, this isn't biased reporting at all.

My moaning for the media being against "us" was tongue-in-cheek, but when I watched this movie, I cringed thousands of times, the first cringe was with the hugs, the 2nd was the "oh my life is complete after I hugged that mascot", and then I had continous cringes after that. It was like watching a "Faces of Death" video, except everything is real this time.

I remember on some other board I was flamed because they said it was a furry comic, which it is, but not really by much.

Same here, the tragic thing is I didn't even know this kind of fandom existed before I started doing my comic. I thought it was just an art style people used, in Alternative comics ("Maus","Life in Hell"). Agh, perhaps that makes us "mundane" or whatever the movie called it

LAGtheNoggin · Post by **LAGtheNoggin** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 2:03 pm

I had an inkling about some kind of Furry world out there when I started but truth be told I'd never heard of the thing! I was just trying to copy J.Axer... o.O

Of course, one Jack forum and a documentary later I think I'm somewhat creeped out...

Strange. So far the most flak I've had about drawing "Furrys" is a person pointing out "What's with his face?" and that's about it... Other than that I haven't had a single comment... If I hadn't come to plodding around on Forums I'd still not have a clue about the Furry community. And since I doubt most people I know plod on the Jack forum or stalk for Furry stuff it's practically unheard of ^.^

Huzzah for England!

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 2:58 pm

Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse are both technically pretty furry. They've been around for decades. It's not a new or weird thing, this people are just frightening, that's all.

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 3:23 pm

Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse are both technically pretty furry. They've been around for decades. It's not a new or weird thing, this people are just frightening, that's all.

Of course, Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse were very generic in their anthropomorphic forms. Giving an anthropomorphic character more distinguisable characteristics such as "sexual orientation" and more revealing parts of human beings, it crosses the line of Bugs Bunny and into the realm of being called "furry".

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:29 pm

Bugs Bunny cross dressed... constantly, and there were frequent questionable makeout sessions with a certain Mr. Fudd. There's a very thin line here, and by your definition, neither Lag nor Ratbert falls into any sort of furry category. And they probably don't.

I think of any kind of roleplay situation, especially online, where you're being a type of animal as being a sort of a furry thing. Some people just get a little carried away with it.

Krazy Krow · Post by **Krazy Krow** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:49 pm

They need to interview Ghastly and hear about the Crying Gay Furry and anal babies.

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:29 pm

Bugs Bunny cross dressed... constantly, and there were frequent questionable makeout sessions with a certain Mr. Fudd. There's a very thin line here, and by your definition, neither Lag nor Ratbert falls into any sort of furry category. And they probably don't.

Hmmm... I did forget about Bugs Bunny's cross dressing days. In that case, I guess about anything can be called furry. The biggest reason I even spoke is that thanks to the furry fandom that has happened in the last one or two decades, people like me, or Rat or whoever is getting flamed and categorized. I'm not saying that the furry craze is wrong, and that whoever is into it should discontinue, it's just unfortunate that we are "part" of a very vague and broad subculture based upon how we draw a character.

At least Lag, by my definition, is furry because of the applied "world" the characters live in. They aren't treated like wacky cartoons such as Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny because they are all in a secluded "furry world" of their own. He also seems to add more "human depth" to the character besides having Bugs sticking his head out of a rabbit hole with Fudd's gun over him.

:Razi Oak: · Post by **:Razi Oak:** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:44 pm

Jaster! wrote:Gee, this isn't biased reporting at all.

Well, keep in mind that absolutely everything decision every human being has ever made is based on a bias. Its impossible not to.

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:48 pm

Feh, you're just saying that because you're biased again bias.

And this was to an extreme. It wasn't "This is what furries are" it was more of a "Holy gaucamole, look at these freaks!" It was like watching a Daily Show interview. At least those are intentionally biased and funny.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:06 pm

But hey! Socciety is pressuring us, forcing un on a lots of things that aren't even logical. As good as civilization can be, it's also a constant pressure on a person to act according to it's rules. All agressive marketing, overflowing us with stupid teenage pop-singers and action movies...
...Well, we all sometimes just wish to get away, to be more free and natural. Maybe furry comunity is just an experiment towards that direction? Maybe unsuccesfull, but we never know until we see.

Ratbert · Post by **Ratbert** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 9:56 pm

Holy shiiiat...that is pretty bad. Stupid ****s.

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:15 pm

Holy shiiiat...that is pretty bad. Stupid ****s.

Is this a reaction to the movie?

Ratbert · Post by **Ratbert** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:53 pm

patach wrote:
Holy shiiiat...that is pretty bad. Stupid ****s.
Is this a reaction to the movie?

It sure is!

Patach · Post by **Patach** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:08 pm

It sure is!

The video was weird, but not surprising.

I actually have a few friends who are alot like the people in that movie. They ask me to goto furry conventions all the time, drive for about 8 hours down to a convention full of people who are wearing animal suits doesn't sound like it's worth it to me, but they never give up trying to persuade me.

Ratbert · Post by **Ratbert** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:34 pm

patach wrote:
It sure is!
The video was weird, but not surprising.

I actually have a few friends who are alot like the people in that movie. They ask me to goto furry conventions all the time, drive for about 8 hours down to a convention full of people who are wearing animal suits doesn't sound like it's worth it to me, but they never give up trying to persuade me.

No, it wasn't very surprising, but the whole thing left me feeling weird.

And the only convention that's worth driving 8 hours for (maybe) is GenCon, because no matter who you are it rocks.