How ironic.

RHJunior · Post by **RHJunior** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:49 am

But it wouldnt have had anything to do with why ghosts and gremlins freaked petey out.

Kinsfire · Post by **Kinsfire** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:50 am

...the tides are pulling the Moon...

???

Methinks that's just a leetle bit backwards...

Kinsfire

Rennen · Post by **Rennen** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:45 pm

I have to agree with Kinsfire's puzzled emoticon here.

The Moon's gravity (as well as centripetal force and the Sun's gravity) cause the tides, not the other way around.

The "drag" of the gravitational attraction is in fact slowing the Moon's orbit, just as the Earth's orbit and rate of spin slow infinitesimally every year.

That's quite standard astrophysics.

Rennen

Arctyc · Post by **Arctyc** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:16 pm

Sorry, but the drag theory's incorrect. They've worked out all of the possible gravitics and formation possibilities, and the only one that works is one in which the moon is currently spiraling outwards.

{Edit for evidence: http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath405/kmath405.htm and
http://homepage.mac.com/rockhound/Astr1 ... ter07.html

The anomaly in this theory is our own Moon, which presently orbits significantly outside the Earth/Sun gravitational threshold radius. However, the Moon's orbit was originally much closer to the Earth, and it is gradually receding from the Earth as our system radiates energy due to friction caused by tidal effects.

1. Earth's misaligned bulges are causing the Moon to speed up in its orbit causing it to spiral outward.

}

'course, that isn't the end of the cycle, the rest of the second link has some interesting points.

Marcus Talbain · Post by **Marcus Talbain** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:44 pm

of course strawberry rhubarb is good too.

has anyone here ever tried Pumpkin Icecream? it's one of my favorite flavors but I can hardly ever find it.

Chaser617 · Post by **Chaser617** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:51 pm

the best thing? chocolate chip cookies fresh from the oven with a tall glas of ice cold milk....

W.M.Y.L.G. Joe · Post by **W.M.Y.L.G. Joe** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 1:22 am

I think the people discussing food have it all figured out here. What difference does it make arguing the beginning of the universe with people who haven't been there? Just gimme some pie and icecream and life is good!

Marcus Talbain · Post by **Marcus Talbain** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:18 am

*hands Joe a slice of Pie fresh from the oven and a bowl of really good vanilla icecream*

CJ · Post by CJ » Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:25 am

.oO ( So much to choose from )
I think I'll take a fresh Mousse au Chocolat. Anybody else a bit? When I start making some, I take the big bowl

CJ

Arctyc · Post by **Arctyc** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 10:45 am

*Digs out the blowtorch*

What? It's for the Creme Brulee.

W.M.Y.L.G. Joe · Post by **W.M.Y.L.G. Joe** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:22 am

*happily accepts*

Ah, thank you my good man.

*takes a bite*

David Adrian · Post by **David Adrian** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 1:08 pm

Kinsfire wrote:...the tides are pulling the Moon...

???

Methinks that's just a leetle bit backwards...

Kinsfire

Actually, it applies both ways: gravity is not a one-way force. And when you add in the complex harmonics in a non-linear wave reaction (and tides are definitely non-linear), it's quite possible for the "lead" between the two sides to change places - in fact, it's quite likely. Happens as a matter of course in certain kinds of motor, and those are much simpler than this particular question.

That said, I'm far outside of my specialties on this one. All I'm saying is that I can see it as a possibility; I don't know that it's actually the case.