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Who are you?

I'm a straight boy
5
10%
I'm a bi boy
3
6%
I'm a gay boy
4
8%
I used to be a boy
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No votes
I'm a straight girl
8
16%
I'm a bi girl
13
26%
I'm a gay girl
0
No votes
I used to be a girl
0
No votes
I'm a boy and that's all I know (for now)
1
2%
I'm a girl and that's all I know (for now)
13
26%
I'm both!
1
2%
I don't know what the heck I am!
2
4%
 
Total votes: 50

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Psychology is so delightfully twisted... I come from a (ashamed to say it) pretty conservative family (bleh!!!) so I grew up naturally assuming that I was straight. But then, I didn't have a habit of checking out the opposite sex at all. The only person I'd ever liked was in the third grade - a boy who used to get picked on because of his red hair. But I've been a fan of many red heads over the years, male and female alike.

In my late teens I was spending time with a cousin who's primary occupation was checking out guys, which made me wonder why I never thought about it, myself. So I started thinking about it. And found out that there are a very limited number of guys I'm attracted to. :cry: That made me feel like a snob. But my self-esteem is too low for that to make sense. Damn chemistry is still such a mystery.

What I finally figured out is that macho is a major turn-off to me. A lot of typically masculine things are. And the boys that I *am* attracted to are few and far between because they're unusual. Since people want to fit in, most boys grow up trying to conform to the image society sets for them, making slim and stylish boys a rare breed indeed. (Thus my obsession with anime - the only suitable venue I've found to consistently satisfy my quirky tastes.)

Needless to say, most boys that do catch my eye are gay. Because most of them have decided that society's status quo doesn't apply to them anyway so to hell with it. They let their hair grow past army length and wear interesting clothes and paraphernalia. They generally tend to have a much stronger sense of individuality and originality.

I also don't like the societal image that most girls conform to either. I guess what it comes down to is that I just don't like anything superficial.
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me, i started to look in the world in a new way after i stopped caring what everyone else thought of me (and thats a great feat for anyone to do). After i basically stopped caring about how others preceived me, i also started to take closer looks at everything. Ive noticed that colors are sometimes more vibrant at night, when there is just the right amount of light. I saw beauty in everything. and from then on, i enjoyed life a whole lot more, even though im slightly confused.
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I come from a conservative family too, but for me though I don't know what my sexual perferences are yet. I don't think about it that much, but then i don't know what I do think about that takes up my thinking so that I won't think about that stuff...gods I'm confusing myself. anyways, I'm not that independant yet either, I mean some one as young as me and with a background, no one would ever think I would rebel, and I don't plan to either.

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Something Notyetknown said reminded me of what my english teacher said last year. Something to the effect that when we are able to see a dandelion as beautiful, we'll be better people for it. I thought it was a neat expression. ^^

The family I spend the most time with is rather conservative as well, but I just don't care what they think of me. I rather enjoy opposing them at every opportunity. ^^; Well, my extended family anyway. I love my family, as in the people I live with, but there's just this huge section of aunts/uncles/cousins I have no respect for. So I like to do the opposite of what they think I should when I can.

Then there's my father, who knows that I like to do things a little differently, but I think his religious ties keep him from agreeing with me. But he actually respects my ideas, which is the key difference there. I'm not really sure my family knows how deeply I feel about the whole social influence on people and sexuality and gender and beliefs (pretty damn deeply, to put it mildly), because parents detect more than we tend to give them credit for.

Speaking of parents, my stepfather just walked in the door after being away for two months! ^___^ Happy!
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pretty much grew up in your average hate-everything-and-everyone-who's-different alabama family. -_-...... i dont know my sexual preferences yet, but it pretty sucks being a girl and cute/NICE guys are gay (mentioned in another topic) *sigh*

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i stopped caring what everyone else thought of me
I did the same thing. My family moved out of state and all the kids at my new school had their established little cliques in which they didn't want to include me unless an adult forced them to. So I've been a loner for a long time. But you do notice a lot of things that most people don't seem to. I swear, my dad will have these revelations sometimes and I'll be like, "this *just* occurred to you for the first time in your life?" He thinks he's an authority on everything because he's older and supposedly more experienced, but he never takes time for introspection and he never steps outside of his comfort zone. He lives the life the world assigned him without even questioning it.
Ive noticed that colors are sometimes more vibrant at night, when there is just the right amount of light.
It's interesting the way colors can effect you. Just as people are attracted to certain types of people, we're attracted to certain palettes and shades of color. Sunset, sunrise and twilight are the most beautiful times of day, I think. I was looking at the moon last night. It looked incredible, framed by the clouds and a little under half full. No matter how much I drink in the sight I can't seem to get enough of it. Like it holds some secret that I just can't figure out.
and from then on, i enjoyed life a whole lot more, even though im slightly confused
My mom and sister raised me to be a christian, although I was never very good at it. I didn't go to church, got pissed off at what I read in the Bible, always forgot to pray, etc. etc. Then I abandoned it. I'm not exactly an atheist, I'm just not anything. More like an agnostic, I guess. I decided that I don't need those answers. People make up the answers that make them most comfortable to give themselves security, even though they can't know anything for certain.

So letting go of that is a little scary because I have to admit that I don't have a clue about anything... the meaning of life, the meaning of death... and the unknown *does* scare me a bit. Religious types like to say, "See? You're lost and confused." But in reality I've never been happier. Allowing the world to be full of mysteries again makes life ten thousand times more interesting. Besides, I was a lot harder on myself when I was a christian because I knew I was a complete failure at it and was probably doomed to hell. ^^

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when we are able to see a dandelion as beautiful, we'll be better people for it
Does the uglier a thing is perceived to be by most people make us that much better if we are able to find something beautiful about it? ^__^ One time I studied a fly that had died on my windowsill. I don't like flies but I have to say that even they have some minor redeeming qualities. ^^ Those iridescent eyes are pretty impressive.
I rather enjoy opposing them at every opportunity.
My family situation seems to get weirder all the time. I come from an extensive and very close-knit family, but I'm not as close to them as everyone else because we moved away from them when I was young. They're really nice people, but they are prejudiced! They're the kind of annoying people who say they're open-minded and won't say anything bad about anyone in public, but amongst themselves they're totally judgmental. It makes me laugh when I think about how shocked and appalled they would be if they knew that four of my closest friends are black guys, one of them is a gay atheist, I'm am agnostic myself and furthermore my favorite pastime involves writing and reading about homosexual erotica. Heh. Actually, I can't even imagine it. All I know for sure is that they would pray for me a lot.

But unfortunately I can't tell them, because it would upset my mom and she's the only person who I don't want to hurt. She's open-minded about my interests and philosophies, but she also cares about the rest of the family and is terrified of the thought of them finding out. XP Meanwhile, the members of the family just go along assuming that I'm exactly like them and I just keep my mouth shut. I just keep wondering what'll happen one day if I partner with someone of a different ethnicity... That will be a little harder to hide.
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Do you just love quoting people or what, Jibaku?
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Um... yes? Although in this case it's just to keep things clear by outlining the relevance to the topic... *blink*

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I'm straight, but my best friend is gay and since learning about him and listening to him, I've slowly been drawn more and more into this controversial topic. I come from a rather strict Roman Catholic family.

In recent years I've gone against their religion, their ideals for a job for me, and their thoughts: I'm a Wiccan who wants to be an English Teacher. I embrace every kind of love. Simply put, when Christians pick fights with me I simply reply:

Love is the most blessed emotion on Earth, and I refuse to discriminate. How can you call one love right and the other wrong?
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What is it with us Roman Catholics going Pagan? Is it the Roman Pagan roots? The Celtic Pagan roots? WHAT IS IT? I DON'T GET IT!

Whatever... The Roman Catholic Church is pretty... n.n ( I mean the actual churches. )
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...when Christians pick fights with you? What would make Christians pick fights with you?

Seriously, people bash Christianity simply because it's the most widely accepted religion in the country. Something wrong in the world? Someone will find some way to blame it on Christians.

See, I'm a Christian, and not afraid to admit it. I just don't go around telling people that they're going to burn in hell, because I don't know that they will. God will judge everyone when the time comes, so I just try to avoid doing the things that cause people to stereotype us as aloof elitest asses. So...yeah. I just try to get people to stop using Christianity as a scapegoat to blame everyone's problems on.

...but I'm not Catholic. I can't seem to think of Catholicism without thinking of them as some oversized cult that follows around a guy in a big hat.

*needs to get himself a pope hat, because they obviously grant super powers or something**
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Christians and Catholics? *_*

*contemplates starting a religion poll*

...

That might be too dangerous.

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I don't believe in a god or supreme being, i just believe in myself, the ones i care for and the power of nature.

I respect everyones believes but i would like to point out that every big religion started out as a sect that was lucky enough to become big.

That's all i have to say 'bout religion.

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I'm asian, and I remebered my dad saying that he will not teach us any religion at all. My brother and I would be able to learn about other religions. But we aren't allowed to be or practice it until we are living on our own, he's really open minded about that. I don't reallyc are for a religion either, I'm more of a scientific person than religious, the stories and myths and things like that seems reallyunbelieveable, i would sometimes be really annoying and ask my catholic/christain friend why to everything, like adam and eve, why god had never shown him/her self. she ended up saying I'm going to go to hell, because I don't believe in god.whatever, I always wanted to met the big red guy...

I realized that my parents never really talked to me about homosexuals, I hear about homosexuals from the kids at my public school, the things I heard were mostly insults and disgust, but I never picked up on that. I never really knew what a gay or lesbian person is really until last year, I don't know any gay people, except for the guys on this forum that I talk to on aim....

I wouldn't do anything or say anything the was the least bit suggestive or a bit perverted. Even hugging, that's not a bit suggestive or anything, a but a friendly action. Somehow I'm terrified and really awkward about hugs. I'm [b]very [/b]conservative, I've been known to wear jackets and long pants at the beach, because I didn't want to wear a bathing suit. Which make my mom think that I am crazy. :roll: thogh I'm sure you ppl would agree with her....

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I've been known to wear jackets and long pants at the beach, because I didn't want to wear a bathing suit. Which make my mom think that I am crazy. thogh I'm sure you ppl would agree with her....
Just because most of the people here don't believing in pants?

Christans (This includes the all different variations of the God/Jesus belief system) don't bother me, it's the people that are all like "you don't believe what I do so your going to burn in hell because my views are the only correct ones you godless heathen." They bother me.
I can't seem to think of Catholicism without thinking of them as some oversized cult that follows around a guy in a big hat.
*needs to get himself a pope hat, because they obviously grant super powers or something**
Power and authority in the Catholic church does seem based upon hat size.

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The comment that not <b>all</b> Christians are mean and go around saying "You're going to hell!" always seems to come up in conversations like these... I think everyone knows not all Christians/other religious people are like that. :\ I'll speak for myself and say that when someone says things like "When Christians pick fights with me...", it doesn't automatically translate as "ALL Christians pick fights...". It just says that someone who happens to be a Christian fought with the person on the matter.

Wouldn't it be the same as when we say "When people pick fights with me..."? Does that mean that everyone in the world it out to get us? Course not, we're just don't think it's necessary to make it specific, every single person who's ever disagreed with us. ^_^;

Anyway, moving away from that. Christians/religious people = generally good, same as everyone else. Fanatics in <i>anything</i> = not so good. x_x


I think it's kind of weak, how we deal with issues like racism and homosexuality in the home. Jakuen mentioned parents never really talking about homosexuality, which got me thinking to when they do talk about it... When my sister makes racist/homophobic comments (quite commonly -_-), it's only then that she's punished for it. AFTER she's already accepted those negative ideas. Topics like that are frequently ignored in everyday life, which is a far cry from an effort to build an accepting attitude. >_< Frustrating.
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I say Christians only because they are, quite simply, the only ones who, upon finding out I am a pagan, try to tear apart my religion. Realize I do have Christian friends, one of them a devout Roman Catholic, and I love them to death. It just seems the word "pagan" gleams on my head. I'm not afraid to get slightly touchy when one of my hsitory teachers cracks a joke on pagans.

I'm not trying to offend anyone. I've had a JW friend, atheists, deists, agnostics, Ba'hai, and others. It's usually the smaller religions, I've found, that don't feel as comfortable trying to argue theology with me.

Sorry if I hit a sore spot. I've taken a lot of bashing damage these last two years for being a non-Christian, and you wouldn't believe how many times paganism can be brought up in classes in a condescending manner. It gets me all riled up. :evil:
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Post by ZOMBIE USER 12076 »

So. Many. Religions! @_@

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I'll start a new one:

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Myself, I'm a ~

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Sorry. Bumper sticker frenzy. ^__^

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Post by Dracoqueen99 »

Heh heh...very funny. I don't believe in god and Jesus. Period end. People ask me why and I say "Where is heaven if it's not in the sky? Where is hell if it's not in the ground? Where is scientific proof that he exists? When you answer these questions, then I will have a reason to believe." I think it's pretty fair, show me there's something and I'll believe you...pull some crap out of your ass and call it gold and I won't.
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