Apology to China

Zodo · Post by **Zodo** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 1:36 am

Amen.-Zodo
aka BUNNY!
Consummate Troublemaker

Jackiesfridge · Post by **Jackiesfridge** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 9:47 am

Folks,Yep, I'm still alive, even thought I haven't posted in forever. While I'm generally apolitical, our recent "incident" with China has had me thinking a little about international relations. A friend of mine sent me the following (which I've edited a bit for grammar and impact), and it made me laugh so much I just had to share:"Dear government of the People's Republic of China:"We're sorry that you don't train your fighter pilots better. As a token of our apology, here's a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000."We're sorry that your front-line fighter planes can't outmaneuver a 35-year-old prop-driven airliner. Perhaps you'd like to consider purchasing some surplus 1950's-era Lockheed Starfighters from the Republic of China (Taiwain), who just replaced all theirs with shiny new F-16s."We're sorry that you believe your territorial waters extend all the way to Australia. For future reference, here's an American 6th-grade geography textbook (please take note of the copyright information printed inside the cover)."We're sorry that you can't seem to see your part in this incident. We know that it may seem easier to blame others, rather than take responsibility. Consider this while we build several new Aegis destroyers for our friends in the Republic of China."We're especially sorry for treating you with such respect for the last 20 years. We'll definately rethink this policy, and will probably go back to treating you like a common untrustworthy street gang very soon."We're very sorry for ever granting you Most-Favored Nation trading status. This will be rectified at the earliest possible opportunity."Sincerely,"The United States of America"Kinda makes you think.-Shannon Traska
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Gplover · Post by **Gplover** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 10:38 am

Well said Shannon!!! I couldn't agree more!Do you suppose BJ could send that Evil Pig over to steal some "stoopid" souls? I wonder how they would treat him?------------------
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Joshnickerson · Post by **Joshnickerson** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 4:18 am

We'll apologize to China when they apologize to us for that dress Bjork wore to the Oscars <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">------------------
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John T · Post by **John T** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 8:01 am

AH HA HA HA HA HA! I especially love the line about making them an untrustworthy street gang.------------------
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BJ · Post by BJ » Fri Apr 20, 2001 4:21 am

Didn't see the dress, but Bjork is Icelandic. Maybe she should apologise to China.

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Fri Apr 20, 2001 6:29 am

Two kinda serious and Kinda boring replies to this topic.1) Hey, be serious (on a discussion board about a funny comic, sure) A US *Spy* plane just outside the border of China was doing what? Why Spying on China of course! So expect them to take a keen interest in the plane, regardless of who's fault it was that it was forced to make that emergency landing.2) Uhh, Bjork is not chinese.

Jackiesfridge · Post by **Jackiesfridge** » Fri Apr 20, 2001 7:56 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tempest:
Two kinda serious and Kinda boring replies to this topic.1) Hey, be serious (on a discussion board about a funny comic, sure) A US *Spy* plane just outside the border of China was doing what? Why Spying on China of course! So expect them to take a keen interest in the plane, regardless of who's fault it was that it was forced to make that emergency landing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Keen interest, true - but here's a couple of points:"Just outside the border of China" - the international definition of "territorial waters" is about 12 miles off the coast, I believe. By definition of international law, the EP-3 was in international waters, about 70 miles off the coast of China, when the incident occurred. Unfortunately, China has decided that their territorial waters extend 100 miles from their coastline, contrary to the international definition."Expect them to take a keen interest" - Well, sure, so do we whenever anyone flies near us for that purpose. BUT - we don't crash into other nation's spyplanes and then blame the spyplane. IF such an event were to occur, I'd like to think that we would acknowledge the fact that our guy goofed (we've done so before - look at the submarine/Japanese boat incident).As far as them keeping the plane...well, I might be wrong on this, but isn't that just a version of international Grand Theft? We're not at war with China, we KNOW they have the plane, and we KNOW the reason their keeping it is to strip it dry of useful electronics that they can incorporate into their own systems. Any other reasons they give are just smokescreen.<Quote>2) Uhh, Bjork is not chinese.</Quote>I might be wrong, but I think Josh meant that the dress she wore to the Oscars (didn't watch 'em) was of a psuedo-Chinese design, and from what I've heard, pretty messed-up.-Shannon

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 9:40 am

Yeah, the dress was kinda hideous.Regarding Terretorial boundaries, You are absoultely correct Shannon. Regarding the Convention on the Law of the Sea (http://www.un.org/Depts/los/UNCLOS-provisions.htm) the boundary in this case is up to 12 miles from China's shore. (It has control over natural resources by this same convention to a 200 mile limit). China does however have an arguement with Vietnam regarding the ownership of some Islands in the area, and if China's side of the disagreement is observed, their teretorial boundarie's would be extended by about 100 miles.All this is totally besides the point however, I'm not saying that China has any right delay the proper return of that *SPY* plane and its crew to the US. But merely suggesting that anyone who expects them to act otherwise is silly, and that 2) the USA would act in the same way

Speaking of International Law and teretorial boundaries, think you could do something about the American Fishermen that are well within Canada's legal 200 mile teretorial boundaries (re: natural resources extend to 200 miles, not 12)?Hehe

Michael Martin · Post by **Michael Martin** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 4:23 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tempest:
and that 2) the USA would act in the same way

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nah, we've done it before. And gone one better.We totally reverse engineered the plane. We shipped the planes back in crates. Lots of them. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin ... >--Michael

Joshnickerson · Post by **Joshnickerson** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:24 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tempest:
Uhh, Bjork is not chinese.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Err... I'm going to take the Eric Cartman way out by saying
"Chinese, Icelandic, who cares? It's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippie crap."------------------
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BJ · Post by BJ » Sun Apr 22, 2001 10:22 am

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Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Mon Apr 23, 2001 8:31 am

Lol! I was worried that I would regret getting into a semi-political conversation in here. Glad to see I was wrong.Sometimes the forums are as funny as the strips, so I decided stop being a lurker and actually post something.Hey, *YOU* told me to.wondering if anyone knows who I am or even gives a damn, hehe.

BJ · Post by BJ » Tue Apr 24, 2001 1:04 am

<IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/confused.gif"> You're not Bjork, are you? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/tongue.gif">------------------
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Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 2:31 am

Nope, the easter bunny.Between delivering chocolate eggs I run this little website that once upon a time mentionned a certain Pokemon related Jackiesfridge strip.:-)

BJ · Post by BJ » Wed Apr 25, 2001 3:45 am

Really? Nothing comes to mind...Is it <A HREF="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/" TARGET=_blank>easterbunny.com</A>?------------------
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Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 8:11 am

Lol!And I was hoping that I might find one of my long lost siblings if I followed that link.-t

BJ · Post by BJ » Thu Apr 26, 2001 8:19 am

Even better--how 'bout some good, solid anime news? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Beats lost relatives any day!------------------
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Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 7:49 am

True, Anime News is a good thing. Getting calls from <a href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article ... 498">crazy VAs</a> is rather amusing.Being able to write Spoofs like <a href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/mod/art ... p">this</a> from time to time can also be quite amusing.

[This message has been edited by Tempest (edited 04-27-2001).]

BJ · Post by BJ » Fri Apr 27, 2001 8:54 am

Hee hee hee....hey wait! I can't afford a lawsuit like that! I claim artistic license!