The Keens Need Some A-Cleanin'

Reinder · Post by **Reinder** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 12:09 am

How exactly would deleting dead sites help Keenspace?------------------
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Screwball McGoo [gDC] · Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:59 am

We're going to play a little game. "Is it August 2001 or August 2000?"You have thirty seconds. The clock begins when someone starts the first quesiton. Ready?------------------
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Tirdun · Post by **Tirdun** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 6:16 am

The only things I can think of that would be affected are the keenspace list and possibly disk space. True, the keen list is a mess, since there are hundreds of dead comics on it, but the dated list helps. I'm fairly sure the autokeen program ignores all the dead comics, since there's nothing new for it to DO to or with them. Clearing the disk space probably won't mean much, since the table that lists the subdomains is usually fairly small and those dead comics probably don't hold too much data anyway. I'm guessing that the "Big Keen Guys" have other issues to deal with other than cleaning up the floatsam and jetsam.IMHO, deleting the sites wouldn't fix much. I'd like to see dead strips taken off of the keen dropdown lists and newsbox, but that's another issue.------------------
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BoxJam · Post by **BoxJam** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 6:41 am

Well, the one thing AutoKeen has to do is
*check* every day to make sure no new comic
has been posted, the indextemplate and
dailytemplate haven't been updated, and no
other webpages have been added or updated
for every dead site.I wonder how much of a load that is, though.
If it were a big deal the techies would
probably do something about it.Maybe there could be something like, if there
hasn't been an update in 30 days, or whatever,
it won't do automatic updates anymore, and
the owner would have to request a manual
update the next time s/he wanted to update,
and to turn the site 'on' again.I'm sure they have time for that.------------------
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Scrubbo · Post by **Scrubbo** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 3:16 am

Actually, the non-updating and empty sites get burned through pretty quickly. On the order of a couple dozen a second. When everything is happy on the system, updates rarely take longer than an hour or so during peak time, and a couple of seconds when nobody is in the queue.What DOES take time is when domain issues cause database lookups to slow down, fail a high percentage of the time, and suchlike. Because then you're waiting on a 30 second timeout (or worse) while the database call dies. If this happens on average even once per site, you can see how even 300 sites (conservative number for a midnight update) updating would tack on 2 and a half hours!Soooooo......
The problem REALLY isn't having a bunch of inactive or empty sites. The problem is network stability and that IS what Nate is working his buns off trying to fix with the new server farm and all that.Stay tuned, true believers!
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Dan Nicholls · Post by **Dan Nicholls** » Sat Aug 11, 2001 6:44 am

I still think the problem is pancakes and their pure, inate hatred for algebra.Eat a pancake. Save a server.

Psiogen · Post by **Psiogen** » Sat Aug 11, 2001 7:00 am

My god! He's right!!
Fucking pancakes...------------------
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