Union Jackie?

Wish · Post by **Wish** » Fri Jun 15, 2001 10:30 am

Darn straight! We expect the best! And we give the best! *thunk!* Here's the beer!-Wish
I love the Retro-plex!

Merrow · Post by **Merrow** » Fri Jun 15, 2001 10:40 am

Mel Gilden?! I still have ALL the 5th Grade Monster books. LOL, I've never met anyone besides me who'd even heard of him!Merrow

Doublespeak · Post by **Doublespeak** » Fri Jun 15, 2001 11:01 am

Ummm, uh oh...Does this mean I shouldn't bother to write and submit my Fans! Fanfic? In it the character, D.Speak, a strong and handsome young man, saves all the Fans! from the dastardly FIB? Kath can't use the Uzi because it is unlady like, and she faints dead away after seeing a mouse. Will can't lift the bazooka, and weeps openly in a fetal position. So I, I mean D.Speak, single handingly beat every single member of the FIB, as well as every monster in the facility, with my bare hands. Even more impressive, because I had one hand and leg tied behind my back, I was blind folded, and drunk. Then I hack into all the government systems and expose the FIB to the world. It is 230 pages, the last 20 pages being a hardcore orgy between m..D.Speak, and all of the Fans! girls. And I do mean, ALL of the girls, every girl that ever appeared in the comic.

Afeldspar · Post by **Afeldspar** » Fri Jun 15, 2001 11:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
However, the Stephen Ratliff stories that Greg mentions are universally reviled..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>True. I just hope everyone is remembering that the quality of what people writes is not a guide to their quality or worth as people. Stephen Ratliff is a friend of mine, and while his own Star Trek fiction may be fairly dire, he puts an immense amount of work into his work as an archivist for alt.startrek.creative, making sure other, better Trekfic is available to a much wider audience.Many will read the above reminder that people who write bad fiction are not necessarily bad people and say, "well, duh, is there anyone out there who really thinks Ratliff must be bad because the Marrissa stories are?" I'm sorry to say there are; I've personally seen people suggesting that Stephen has sacrificed every right to be treated with basic courtesy, because in a MiSTing of one of Stephen's stories, Crow T. Robot and Tom Servo went temporarily insane from reading the story. That's right; someone suggested in all seriousness that the real person Stephen Ratliff must be punished for what happened to fictional people. Even through incidents like these, when he's come under insane personal attack, he's remained a patient, polite and kind person, and he has been very generous to the MiSTing community in allowing people to MiST his works, which he does not have to be.I've made my share of Marrissa jokes too, but I also keep in mind that stories can be god-awful and their authors the salt of the earth. I hope others will too.

T Campbell · Post by **T Campbell** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 3:46 am

True, yes. Stephen Ratliff is a human being and entitled to basic rights. Sometimes humorous exaggerations start getting taken a bit too seriously by the exaggerators...

Nicolas Juzda · Post by **Nicolas Juzda** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 9:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Doublespeak:

To me every episode that had to do with Wesley and the Traveler were no damn good. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Remember Me is one of my top ten episodes. It's got perhaps my all time favorite Trek line: "If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe."Nicolas

Doublespeak · Post by **Doublespeak** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 10:30 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nicolas Juzda:
 Remember Me is one of my top ten episodes. It's got perhaps my all time favorite Trek line: "If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe."Nicolas<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That

Bevan · Post by **Bevan** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 11:13 am

My favorite series long ago. Most of them seemed to have vanished from my house for some reason, I'm not sure how or why.In retrospect, 5th Grade Monsters was an interesting treatment of prejudice and bigotry. (with people trying to send the monsters "back where they came from" and disliking them for being different). Of course, that didn't occur to me when I read them. I've always loved movie monsters, so they worked for me.

Doublespeak · Post by **Doublespeak** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 11:44 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by GodaiYuhsaku:
 ARRRRG INSERTION FIC!!!!!
*makes warding sign*Ranma insertion fanfics ruined the entire thing for me.
Though there as one i liked.
The other ends up in the ranma universe.WITH NO POWERS! and unable to speak japanese.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ever read the one that takes place on a college campus, and the author/main character falls in love with the female side of Ranma. Couldn't even get through the first three pages.Ever read the one that takes place on a college campus, and the author/main character falls in love with the female side of Ranma. Couldn't even get through the first three pages.As for the Star Trek episode "All Good Things." In an earlier episode (well of course it was earlier), no one cared that the captain was sending them on a suicide mission. The only time they sensed something was wrong was when Picard acted lively and tried to get closer to Dr. Crusher. So maybe it isn't so outlandish that the crew would follow the Captain blindly, as long as he doesn't sing a drinking song with his crew <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">To me every episode that had to do with Wesley and the Traveler were no damn good. Also anything that had to do with Lore, those just made me want to poke out my eyes.

GodaiYuhsaku · Post by **GodaiYuhsaku** » Sun Jun 17, 2001 11:47 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Doublespeak:
 Ever read the one that takes place on a college campus, and the author/main character falls in love with the female side of Ranma. Couldn't even get through the first three pages.Ever read the one that takes place on a college campus, and the author/main character falls in love with the female side of Ranma. Couldn't even get through the first three pages.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The one where ranma started off locked in female form. I think so and it wasn't as bad as some.Inserting an origanal character is fine with me. Inserting yourself as an origanal character is stretching it.Hooking yourself up is really stretching it if its an easy task.The one i read the main guy character didn't have an easy job. Mostly the thing that gets me is powertripping. Oh look i'm the best fighter.In that one series the guy was a wimp. couldn't fight and out of shape. He ended up becoming a student of ranma.
Oh well

GarrisonBeckett · Post by **GarrisonBeckett** » Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:05 am

Alright, let me just enter in by saying that no topic, no matter how important or trivial, has ever made me register on Keenspace before. But when I came across this, I HAD to respond.

Even through incidents like these, when he's come under insane personal attack, he's remained a patient, polite and kind person, and he has been very generous to the MiSTing community in allowing people to MiST his works, which he does not have to be.

"He" of course refers to Stephen Ratliff. Now, while I'm almost sure Stephen is a human being, he wrote Time Speeder! ^^; Ah, what I meant is, he's written some things which I find at least questionable in his viewpoint. For one, a Starfleet officer hits on Marrissa while she wears a bikini on Risa. While she was thirteen. ["The Field Trip, Pt. III"] What kind of sick, perverted schmuck ...? Alright, I admit, that may have been Stephen's joke on Starfleet. But it doesn't take a Freudian to ask what he meant with the rewrite of "The Field Trip, Pt. 1," where this 'esteemed' author gives descriptive detail about an eleven-year-old's body as she bathes. Not in the original, mind you, when he was a mildly perverted eighteen, but the rewrite from three years ago, when he was an obviously disturbed 26. I won't begin to complain about how he gimps every beloved crewmember of the Enterprise, every chance he gets ...

But, it's not like I'm one to talk, I suppose ... I myself have joined the ranks of Lise-Anne Psach and Rob Tonts, and contributed a couple DS9-based fanfics to his series. Spoofing, to some degree, and (I hope) outwriting Ratliff. Not that it's hard.

I don't mean to drag up dead issues, but I saw that one, technically four, blessed, accursed, name(s), and I had to respond. Much will be happening with her in the near future, I can promise you. ^_~
--Garrison Beckett------------------
-- The world is a better place for not having Marrissa in it.

Wish · Post by **Wish** » Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:33 am

Heh.. welcome to the boards, Garrison. Thanks for populating my nightmares with that description of Ratliff's Marrisa description. I'll remember you when I wake up drenched in a cold sweat and screaming in abject horror. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">-Wish
I've come to step on your chickens and soil your quilts.