Fans In Black

Nicolas Juzda · Post by **Nicolas Juzda** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:18 am

I just thought I'd mention that the FANS are now all wearing identical black uniforms.If anyone buys into my view that the FANS are veering dangerously close to becoming that which they fight, this is a nice visual touch along that line.Of course, there is still some hope. Rikk's white T-shirt stands as a symbol of individuality and such.Nicolas

Czhorat · Post by **Czhorat** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:56 am

The uniforms aren't quite identical. Tim's is a heck of a lot bigger than Rumy's! Besides, Will is dressed like an FiB agent and Shanna's dressed like a nurse. All joking aside, there are times when basic black is a good choice. I don't think this'll be a full-time new look for them. If you called this thread "Fen in Black" it would ryhme better with MiB.

Nicolas Juzda · Post by **Nicolas Juzda** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:56 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Czhorat:
The uniforms aren't quite identical. Tim's is a heck of a lot bigger than Rumy's! Besides, Will is dressed like an FiB agent and Shanna's dressed like a nurse. All joking aside, there are times when basic black is a good choice. I don't think this'll be a full-time new look for them. If you called this thread "Fen in Black" it would ryhme better with MiB.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Literary analysis is built around reading too much into things and ignoring inconvenient details. If nothing else, four years as an English minor (among other things) has taught me that.Nicolas

Blondlot · Post by **Blondlot** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:03 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Czhorat:
If you called this thread "Fen in Black" it would ryhme better with MiB.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Marsh in black?Ex animo,
m.d

Maccabee · Post by **Maccabee** » Sat Jun 02, 2001 4:03 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Blondlot:
 Marsh in black?Ex animo,
m.d<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>"Fen" is the aren't-we-cute-and-different plural of "fan." You still occasionally hear fans/fen refering to themselves that way at cons and such, and Niven, Drake and Pournelle used the term alot in their novel Fallen Angels.I originally pushed for FEN! as the name of this comic rather than FAANS! (now the less pretensious FANS!), but T wouldn't listen to me. Sometimes only being Assistant-Lord-High-Muckymuck sucks.Greg------------------
Risus est telum ultimum contra tyrranem. Nullus dictator exercitibus allibus ridiculem vulgi longe resistare potest.

Nicolas Juzda · Post by **Nicolas Juzda** » Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:03 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:

Of course, FAANS proved not much better. FEN was at least a slang term that more than ten people actually USED. People kept pronouncing it "Fonz." But at least they could tell what the word was SUPPOSED to be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I pronounced it Fah Ahns.Nicolas

T Campbell · Post by **T Campbell** » Sun Jun 03, 2001 6:59 am

Boy, some debates NEVER get settled, huh, Greg?Basically, I thought that a lot of people would give Blondlot's reaction, and it's hard to go after something when you don't understand the title (SHREK being a rare exception, but wouldn't it have been a bit MORE successful if the trailers had cleared up that Shrek was the ogre?).Of course, FAANS proved not much better. FEN was at least a slang term that more than ten people actually USED. People kept pronouncing it "Fonz." But at least they could tell what the word was SUPPOSED to be.

Muttley · Post by **Muttley** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 4:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Of course, FAANS proved not much better. FEN was at least a slang term that more than ten people actually USED. People kept pronouncing it "Fonz." But at least they could tell what the word was SUPPOSED to be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think you could define faans as people who would argue about how you pronounce "faans" <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">Isn't the term only used within SF fandom? And it isn't usually complimentary is it?Muttley

Jarnor23 · Post by **Jarnor23** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 8:58 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Of course, FAANS proved not much better. FEN was at least a slang term that more than ten people actually USED. People kept pronouncing it "Fonz." But at least they could tell what the word was SUPPOSED to be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aaaaaaaaayyy!Jarnor23

Blondlot · Post by **Blondlot** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 9:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Maccabee:
 "Fen" is the aren't-we-cute-and-different plural of "fan." You still occasionally hear fans/fen refering to themselves that way at cons and such, and Niven, Drake and Pournelle used the term alot in their novel Fallen Angels.I originally pushed for FEN! as the name of this comic rather than FAANS! (now the less pretensious FANS!), but T wouldn't listen to me. Sometimes only being Assistant-Lord-High-Muckymuck sucks.Greg<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You learn something new every day! I feel... edified.Ex animo,
m.d

Doublespeak · Post by **Doublespeak** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 11:17 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Of course, FAANS proved not much better. FEN was at least a slang term that more than ten people actually USED. People kept pronouncing it "Fonz." But at least they could tell what the word was SUPPOSED to be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I just figured FANS was taken.

Mara · Post by **Mara** » Wed Jun 06, 2001 10:24 am

I'm just glad the female Faans haven't started calling themselves "Fem-Fen."------------------
~Mara~

Gwalla · Post by **Gwalla** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 9:45 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mara:
I'm just glad the female Faans haven't started calling themselves "Fem-Fen."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Since the fan->fen plural comes from man->men, shouldn't female fans be called wofen (pronounced "whiffen'")?------------------
"Sun Ra? He's out to lunch, all right...same place I eat at!"
- George Clinton

Maccabee · Post by **Maccabee** » Fri Jun 08, 2001 5:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by gwalla:
 Since the fan->fen plural comes from man->men, shouldn't female fans be called wofen (pronounced "whiffen'")?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And then the adjective could be "fenimine."Greg------------------
Risus est telum ultimum contra tyrranem. Nullus dictator exercitibus allibus ridiculem vulgi longe resistare potest.

Wish · Post by **Wish** » Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:09 am

That one's a tongue twister, Greg.. Try this one... 'unique New York.'I... can't say I'd really be thrilled about a masculine/feminine version of 'fen.' Like 'fan,' it's so beautifully non-gender specific. It's like 'artist.' The non-specific gender word is one of the best things about the English language. Speaking in French or Spanish, everything has to be one or the other, with weird, random sexes assigned all helter-skelter. Give me a simple, ambiguitous 'fan' rather than fanette and fano. Women always get the short end of the stick in gender-specific titles anyway.. we always get the longer word. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is 'husband' and 'wife.'-Wish
Whistling in the Dark. Literally.

Maccabee · Post by **Maccabee** » Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wish:
 The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is 'husband' and 'wife.'-Wish
Whistling in the Dark. Literally.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You can thank the Vikings. "Husband" is of Norse origin. And then there was the annoyance of grammatical gender -- I need to look this up to make sure, but I think "woman" took masculine adjectives because it was a compound word ("wif"+"man" = "wifman") and "man" is masculine. Silly Germanic linguistic conventions... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/tongue.gif">Greg, watcher of PBS------------------
Risus est telum ultimum contra tyrranem. Nullus dictator exercitibus allibus ridiculem vulgi longe resistare potest.