Need some help with frames.

ThingfromtheDeep · Post by **ThingfromtheDeep** » Fri Feb 15, 2002 3:49 am

I've been trying to use frames, but the sites won't show up. I've used the indextemplate as the skeleton page, putting down the [frameset] tag and putting down the URL's and the column sizes, but the sites won't show up. Just blank with a fframe to the side.
<A HREF="http://thelspshow.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://thelspshow.keenspace.com/</A> Any suggestions?Later...

Linz or Char · Post by **Linz or Char** » Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:17 am

is this the first time you've used frames? your source looks kind of bare... if you want go to <A HREF="http://www.atmosphere.be/things/ime.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.atmosphere.be/things/ime.html</A> you can steal the html.... the page sucks but the frames work. it's mine so yeah go ahead.------------------
<A HREF="http://weirdosutopia.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>http://weirdosutopia.keenspace.com</A> [This message has been edited by Linz or Char (edited 02-15-2002).]

ThingfromtheDeep · Post by **ThingfromtheDeep** » Sat Feb 16, 2002 5:22 am

Cool! Now how do I load them together? LAter...

Post by **Kisai** » Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:46 pm

Frames are a bad idea since it reduces the amount of visible space on lower-resolution browsers. I've seen some poorly designed frames sites that put navigation on the ourside frame, however providing no means of scrolling the outside frame. Please don't make this mistake.

If you are using frames for page-layout only, just create css positioning(version 6 browsers) or html layout tables(ick, version 4 browsers) instead.

On the other hand, if there is some specific need for frames (remember frames are one of the top "bad web design" mistakes) by which I can't think of any useful purpose for framesets (as opposed to iframes) other than to show two web pages side by side.

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Sat Feb 16, 2002 2:24 pm

Also, frames for the indextemplate.html is a bad idea in terms of screwing up Autokeen. Sure you can do it, but getting it right all the time is very hard to do, and we don't recommend it.

ThingfromtheDeep · Post by **ThingfromtheDeep** » Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:48 am

But I see people using borderless frames in plenty of sites. It makes it look much better. Now how do I put the frames up onto the main part of my site?

Later...

Kelen · Post by **Kelen** » Mon Feb 18, 2002 9:39 am

Why not use tables? My page looks like it uses frames when it fact it uses tables instead. If you make a table, set its background to a picture, and then set the size of the table to that picture, you will have a picture you can position links and other things over. It's kinda like being able to tile things on top of one another.

It takes some tweaking to get things working exactly the way you want, but I've had success with it.

http://kelen.keenspace.com

Seven3 · Post by **Seven3** » Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:25 am

Another reason not to use frames is that you'll need to put target=_top ( or _self or _parent) in all you're links including the code for your ****some_day*** tags. It's do-able, but it's messy.

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