New old Star Trek

[IVstudios]

So I just came across this and I have to say I'm surprised that I have heard absolutely nothing about it until like an hour ago. Looks like someone is making new TOS episodes on YouTube. And not just some small budget fan thing but like full length episodes with money and mid level stars and Marina Sirtis on board.

There's only one episode so far and while it's too soon to say whether or not I like it it is rather impressive. The only thing that disappointed me was the guy they got to play Bones looks, sounds and acts nothing like Deforest Kelley, but everyone else seems pretty spot on. The sets and the sound effects and the writing are all impressively… well I don't want to say "good" exactly, but true to the source.

Anyway it looked like something that deserves way more than the zero attention it seems to have gotten thus far. Even George Tekei hasn't mentioned it on Facebook and that guy will link anything vaguely Trek related.

[Komiyan]

...huh. Interesting. Probably it's not getting so much attention right now because of the Hollywood movies already doing a different take on those characters, and the crash boom blam lightshow of those is a lot more resonant with what a lot of folk seem to want from media at the moment.

Kinda wish people would drop Kirk and Spock and make some new Trek stuff, TOS wasn't even the best show, goddamnit. Where's all the DS9 love?

[VeryCuddlyCornpone]

I barged in here expecting this thread to be about the rebooted series, having just seen the new movie and been blubbering about it

welp

i'll guess i'll go back to whence i came

[McDuffies]

Don't pine for Chris.

[IVstudios]

I barged in here expecting this thread to be about the rebooted series, having just seen the new movie and been blubbering about it

welp

i'll guess i'll go back to whence i came

Well, there hasn't been anything new to say about the other new Star Trek, so you might as well talk about the movie. I, for one, agree with the Red Letter Media assessment of it, which is basically "good acting, good directing, bad writing."

[JSConner800]

I dunno, this series does seem pretty redundant, especially with the new movies. The problem is that it's too faithful to the original series. I only got about halfway through that episode, but it seemed to me like they brought absolutely nothing new to the table, and were content to simply emulate everything Star Trek has already done. At that point, why bother to remake the show when you could just watch the original, which at least has an added originality and nostalgia factor to it. I suppose it deserves some credit for being such high quality for a fan project (it's certainly better than those awful live-action Megaman and Sonic movies), and it at least deserves a George Takei shout-out.

I, for one, agree with the Red Letter Media assessment of it, which is basically "good acting, good directing, bad writing."

Agreed. It was great seeing the chemistry between the new cast again, but damn. That plot.

[Komiyan]

The plot was ok, but it needed tidied up, and at some point someone should have noticed that they forgot to give Carol Marcus a personality.

[VeryCuddlyCornpone]

The plot was ok, but it needed tidied up, and at some point someone should have noticed that they forgot to give Carol Marcus a personality.

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Her immediate reaction was pretty appropriate, though quickly dismissed, to her dad's head being popped open like a freaking Gusher.
(I think I wasn't paying attention well during that scene because I thought it was Scotty's head he was bursting and I was significantly disturbed "Mom, he crushed Scotty's head open!! He killed Scotty!! Why would they kill Scotty? ..... Ohhhh, never mind."



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I enjoyed the movie a lot, enough that I didn't really notice anything wrong with the plot until ruminating upon it later and reading feedback from others. (Tho I invariably love everything I see in theaters because I'm an easy sell in an immersive sound/big screen set up like that. I get choked up at trailers in the theater, for god's sake. A movie has to be exceptionally poor for me to not have a good time when I'm out. Later, after the spectacle and grandness fades, I can properly watch and pick apart a film like a grown up )

[JSConner800]

I enjoyed the movie a lot, enough that I didn't really notice anything wrong with the plot until ruminating upon it later and reading feedback from others.

Oh, same here. I had a great time at the theater. But the next day, after thinking about it a little bit, the whole thing sort of came apart. They did a good job of glossing over the plot holes and logical leaps in the moment, as you're swept up by the next big thing as you watch the movie, but when you go back and remember certain scenes individually (like Leonard Nimoy's jarring, unnecessary cameo), the movie doesn't hold up. It's a shame, because I love the new cast, and I generally like this new direction (never was much of a Star Trek fan to begin with), but this movie is a classic example of style over substance.

[Komiyan]

(I think I wasn't paying attention well during that scene because I thought it was Scotty's head he was bursting and I was significantly disturbed "Mom, he crushed Scotty's head open!! He killed Scotty!! Why would they kill Scotty? ..... Ohhhh, never mind."

Oh thank god, it wasn't just me! I thought that for a good ten minutes until Scotty showed up again! I was sat there horrified and wondering why Kirk wasn't freaking out more.

[VeryCuddlyCornpone]

Oh, same here. I had a great time at the theater. But the next day, after thinking about it a little bit, the whole thing sort of came apart. They did a good job of glossing over the plot holes and logical leaps in the moment, as you're swept up by the next big thing as you watch the movie, but when you go back and remember certain scenes individually (like Leonard Nimoy's jarring, unnecessary cameo), the movie doesn't hold up. It's a shame, because I love the new cast, and I generally like this new direction (never was much of a Star Trek fan to begin with), but this movie is a classic example of style over substance.

Heh, I loved the Nimoy cameo because it purely made no sense even while I was in the theater. I was like "This is when, in another movie, a character prays for guidance and their father pops into their dreams to tell them what to do or something." Was there any explanation given at all to why he was there just in the nick of time? I love Leonard Nimoy, so any excuse to put him in a movie passes muster in my book no matter how shoehorned it is, but I can definitely agree that that was shoehorned and very strange.

(I think I wasn't paying attention well during that scene because I thought it was Scotty's head he was bursting and I was significantly disturbed "Mom, he crushed Scotty's head open!! He killed Scotty!! Why would they kill Scotty? ..... Ohhhh, never mind."

Oh thank god, it wasn't just me! I thought that for a good ten minutes until Scotty showed up again! I was sat there horrified and wondering why Kirk wasn't freaking out more.

Whew, I feel less stupid now I just forgot about Bad Captain entirely, and when they all were beamed back to the Enterprise I was like "Well, that's a really cheap way for him to just magically be better?"

Any shot showing the full Enterprise, especially at the beginning of the movie, had me cooing with happiness, and I'm normally not a special effects person. I just like how it properly looks like a huge ass space ship, and through the planet's atmosphere, moves and sounds like one. Hehe, I liked the shot when it was underwater, it looked like a big whale :3

[JSConner800]

Heh, I loved the Nimoy cameo because it purely made no sense even while I was in the theater. I was like "This is when, in another movie, a character prays for guidance and their father pops into their dreams to tell them what to do or something." Was there any explanation given at all to why he was there just in the nick of time? I love Leonard Nimoy, so any excuse to put him in a movie passes muster in my book no matter how shoehorned it is, but I can definitely agree that that was shoehorned and very strange.

Yeah, that one hit me even as it was happening. It was such a blatant plot device. And as far as I can remember, there was no explanation for it. I assume they called him for help, but why they would call him and not, say, the rest of the fleet is beyond me. I also love how his only purpose, besides being Leonard Nimoy in a Star Trek movie, was to hype up Cumberbatch's character at just the right moment. Then he was gone. We don't even know where he is or what he's up to. He could have been taking that call from a beach hut in Hawaii surrounded by a harem of Star Trek fangirls, and we would never know it.

Actually, come to think of it, that's probably what Nimoy was doing when they filmed the scene.