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rkolter wrote:I for one don't like it.

And I'm not talking as a postwhore, although I admit, I do postwhore some (but not as much as I did say, a year ago).

Generally it does suggest who is a regular forumite, which is important for anyone who doesn't already know the titles. The date joined is irrelevant - it's wrong for many people, and for many others, who don't post frequently but have had forum accounts for a long time, it's misleading.

Also, it's kind of fun having a postcount race with Legostar. Or finally slipping into 2nd place. DM has a location talking about his position in 11th. I really don't SEE any angst about postcounts except when something happens that actually removes them or adjusts them.

I think if this isn't a joke, it's a solution looking for a problem. So I'm not cool with the removal of the postcounts. I wouldn't be if I was in 100th position, or 2nd, or 10,000th.
Ditto to this. As I said, ranks are what I liked about the system. Now I don't know when the next rank is coming, if it's coming at all.

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Black Sparrow wrote:Frankly, I don't like it. But that's just because I'm a postwhore so no one's going to listen to me anyway. This is the second time I've been denied on the entrance to Page 1... sigh...
I agree, I hope that this is just a temporary joke.
People don't post that much simply because of postcount. People post because they like to post. Because they're bored. Because they have nothing better to do. Because they want to participate in conversation, even, sometimes, when they have nothing to say. Out of million reasons people post silly stuff on this forum, postcount is just one. People are a bit obsessed about it when they start, but eventually they stop being. As Czar said, after a few hundred posts or so, it's not interesting anymore, and that's why postwhoring isn't something you'll stop by removing postcounts.
If this really is Merc's attempt to put a stop to chattering on GD, I think it's all wrong. First of all, it will have no effect and second, it will just remove some of benefits that displayed postcount has. Third, Merc's quest to remove chattering from GD is an elusive one. These forums have always been like that, long before even I arroved here; They will not change; And even if they might change, the question is whether we'd want them to. On top of it all, I don't think that anyone would have right to remove postcount permanently without asking people what they think about it. It's a big decision and big decisions should be made in consensus, not by one authority. We used to criticize Kelly for making decisions on his own without asking us what we think about it, and I'd have to see someone who participated in that struggle acting the same.

But I still think that it's just a prank.


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If the titles go, I'll complain. I do like the titles.

However, I see no point to cling to the postcount.
Indeed, it may have something to do with the first forum I ever became active on not having any form of postcounter, but be that as it may, I think postcounts are pretty useless.
And titles aren't completely useless?
So you like the titles, I like the postcounts. We're even.
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But, so what if they're useless to you - without meaning offense, why do you have, or want to have, an opinion on something that doesn't affect you?

There are people who do like the postcounts, and the only time they ever seem to get upset is when the postcounts get revised or taken away. So... leave 'em alone and everyone who cares about them is happy, and the people who don't care about them, shouldn't care if they exist or not in the first place.

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mcDuffies wrote:But I still think that it's just a prank.
If it had been on April first I would say it was, but I'm thinking otherwise.
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I admit the original forum I hail from had it's own share of postwhores and smilie posts and competition (normally to nag the umpteenth post in a particularly popular thread, as the posts where numbered from zero to x, with x being the most recent post). The problem (if it is a problem) doesn't go away without post counts.

But I still see no viable argument to keep postcounts.
It just puts unneeded pressure on the posters.

And the titles: The titles have humour value. Numbers (mostly) do not.
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Czar wrote:But I still see no viable argument to keep postcounts.
It just puts unneeded pressure on the posters.
You don't see that people other than yourself simply like to have a postcount as a valid reason to keep them? Or that their removal has upset some people as a valid reason to reinstate them?

I've never heard of someone here say, "The pressure of posting enough to keep position 75 is really dragging on me! Can we please remove these accursed postcounts?"

In fact, if you care at all about your position in the memberlist ranking, you probably enjoy the postcounts, and aern't pressured by them.

Again, you don't think they're needed, and that's cool. But you haven't said you actually dislike them, and haven't given a reason for removing them other than the first forum you went to had problems with them, which really isn't related to our issue here.

You have no real reason for wanting the postcounts removed; the removal upsets people; why are you actively campaigning for their removal?
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Czar wrote:But I still see no viable argument to keep postcounts.
The "Possessed by Evil" title, and the Stick man title, and the 1234 "5678" are all good reasons to keep the postcounts because the humor doesn't make sense unless you see the numbers. So title overhaul might be in the works if the counts don't come back.

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rkolter wrote:
Czar wrote:But I still see no viable argument to keep postcounts.
It just puts unneeded pressure on the posters.
You don't see that people other than yourself simply like to have a postcount as a valid reason to keep them? Or that their removal has upset some people as a valid reason to reinstate them?
Alright, that's one reason.
I've never heard of someone here say, "The pressure of posting enough to keep position 75 is really dragging on me! Can we please remove these accursed postcounts?"
The fact that people are striving to maintain positions in the memberlist ranking is caused by the presence of postcounts. Without postcounts no competition, no pressure. The strive to gain "rank" and have more posts than thy neighbour was completely new to me when I started frequenting phpbb forums with postcounts enabled.
In fact, if you care at all about your position in the memberlist ranking, you probably enjoy the postcounts, and aern't pressured by them.
As I said, on the forum with no postcounts, there was no competition for percieved "rank" through number of posts.
Again, you don't think they're needed, and that's cool. But you haven't said you actually dislike them, and haven't given a reason for removing them other than the first forum you went to had problems with them, which really isn't related to our issue here.
The forum (which I still frequent) recently switched over to a new system (one with postcounts, much to the protests of me and several others, but it's something one has to live with. It lacks a memberlist and a ranking). The original system didn't (and probably couldn't) support post counts.
My dislike for postcounts is that they are unneeded for the purpose of the forums, they're an excessive feature with no reason for existance (to my knowledge) other than existing. To gain rank and postcount is brought on by their existance. To keep track of the number of posts you've made is neat, but unneccessary in the long run.
You have no real reason for wanting the postcounts removed; the removal upsets people; why are you actively campaigning for their removal?
Just to be contrary, I guess.

I've seen some alternatives for the regular post counts, I think one forum uses binary code to represent the approximate number of posts made by any given member.
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Czar wrote:
rkolter wrote:I've never heard of someone here say, "The pressure of posting enough to keep position 75 is really dragging on me! Can we please remove these accursed postcounts?"
The fact that people are striving to maintain positions in the memberlist ranking is caused by the presence of postcounts. Without postcounts no competition, no pressure. The strive to gain "rank" and have more posts than thy neighbour was completely new to me when I started frequenting phpbb forums with postcounts enabled.
But is that such a negative thing? Because it doesn't seem so to me. There isn't some overarching forum hierarchy that MUST BE RESPECTED because of postcounts. It's not negative. Like you said, anyone over 100 generally gets repected, the better if they've made themselves known by what they've posted.

Everyone knows that I've been fighting to get back on page one since the Games Forum wipe... but I still don't feel any PRESSURE. It's really just for fun, because I'm bored and because I love these forums. The postcounts, to me, are just a nice little bonus.
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lack of posts isn't going to stop me from talking as much as I do. It was never my motivation in the first place to just raise my post count. I just like to talk, or in this case, write. I'm more or less like this in person, it's not particularly easy to shut me up.

Besides, I just passed warren, now I have no idea how close I am to passing kolter ;)
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Been said before, saying it again. What's wrong with a little friendly competition?

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:Shrug:

I see no reason to cling to the postcounts, and I'm not sad to see them go, if they really are gone.

And if this is an experiment, well, then it's an experiment.
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I was hoping to hit 1000 posts and be somebody, now you ruined my dream. :cry: :wink:

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mrs_rkolter wrote:I was hoping to hit 1000 post and be somebody, now you ruined my dream. :cry: :wink:
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I say bring 'em back. While I don't really care about ranking, it's kinda fun to see who's active on the forum. Or over-active like that one weirdo that wants to "haunt our nightmares" and racked up 5000 posts in a few months.
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Oh, hey...guess who just made it to page one.
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mrs_rkolter wrote:I was hoping to hit 1000 posts and be somebody, now you ruined my dream. :cry: :wink:
*Hugs beth*

And agreed about the weird guy PAL.

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PeppermintAfterlife wrote:I say bring 'em back. While I don't really care about ranking, it's kinda fun to see who's active on the forum. Or over-active like that one weirdo that wants to "haunt our nightmares" and racked up 5000 posts in a few months.
Hey I never said I'd haunt your... oh... him... riiiiiiight :shifty:
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This is really not cool. Now I'll never know when I've reached 100 posts, which is always a big "Less of a n00b" thing for me on forums.

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