EOI = 23% of all traffic to Keenspace

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:34 pm

Thank you guys, the support means a lot to me. More than the traffic surge.

I think more subcategories in the guide would be awesome, I can't think of anything that would go wrong with adding more to it.

Ghastly · Post by **Ghastly** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:42 pm

If you can hold onto those numbers for a month then tell Crosby you're going independent and it'll be almost guarenteed that he'll spot you.

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:44 pm

Heh, I dunno, I sometimes wonder if my old anti-Pupkin ravings made me unspottable.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:05 pm

Sortelli wrote:Heh, I dunno, I sometimes wonder if my old anti-Pupkin ravings made me unspottable.

I heard Chris doesn't like P***** either.

Mr Ekshin · Post by **Mr Ekshin** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:41 pm

Congrats Sortelli. Nice to see.

Thingschange · Post by **Thingschange** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:29 pm

Well done, 20%... for one comic? That's... phewwf, impressive. Congratulations. Like (umm, someone) said, it's good to see a keen keenspacer doing so well.

Ahhh being on page one, something I'll never ever have to worry about with Things Change. So long as I'm on some page somewhere I'll be happy.

Speaking of which if I want to be on a page I'd better get today's update done.

::Struggles to tear himself away from the addictive forums::

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:07 pm

Wow. Congrats Sortelli.

I bet Waterguy receives every 0.0000001 in 1 hits.

Superlance · Post by **Superlance** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:15 pm

Kisai wrote:So here's a bit of a "kinda sorta" poll for people, should I diverge the "top" pages into subcategories?

Sounds cool!
In a ' it probably won't wind up happening' kind of way though...

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:27 pm

Warren wrote:
Sortelli wrote:Heh, I dunno, I sometimes wonder if my old anti-Pupkin ravings made me unspottable.
I heard Chris doesn't like P***** either.

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I beg to differ there.

Chris Crosby wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the sense that most people read the strip expecting GARFIELD or something. And that's kinda like reading LORD OF THE RINGS and expecting a Judy Blume book. You'd be screaming "Where the hell is FUDGE?" the entire time and you'd think one of the greatest fantasy novels in history was not nearly as good as FRECKLE JUICE.

I don't think Sortelli is totally screwed. If he had a few Keenspotters to vouch for him, CC would probably have to call a vote and since there's nothing in EOI that is more offensive than some of the GPF strips, I don't think there would be a problem. The trick will be getting the vote called.

Fi13r · Post by **Fi13r** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:04 pm

Ratbert wrote:Way to go, Sorty. It's amazing that PA has the power to convert a normal comic (not that EOI wasn't popular before, but still) into a huge hit...imagine if someone else got linked from them or even you!

I'll bet it wouldn't do me any good.

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:39 am

Ratbert wrote:Way to go, Sorty. It's amazing that PA has the power to convert a normal comic (not that EOI wasn't popular before, but still) into a huge hit...imagine if someone else got linked from them or even you!

I believe the last time I got plugged by Sortelli I nearly fell off my chair because my visits/per day shot up to 1000...from what... 250?

Pretty damn impressive... I say

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:46 am

Sortelli wrote:Heh, I dunno, I sometimes wonder if my old anti-Pupkin ravings made me unspottable.

Nah, business is business.

Seriously Sortelli, why don't you try to talk with Chris Crosby? I bet Skirting Danger had a reader base as large as yours when it got 'spotted.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:53 am

Congrats Sortelli!

I haven't looked at where my comic is, but I suspect it's around page 60.

So sure, do subcatagories. If you do one for 'non-fiction comics' I'd be at the top by default.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:25 am

faub wrote:I don't think Sortelli is totally screwed. If he had a few Keenspotters to vouch for him, CC would probably have to call a vote and since there's nothing in EOI that is more offensive than some of the GPF strips, I don't think there would be a problem. The trick will be getting the vote called.

But really, a comic with two 30something old people who decide to wait with sex until they're married, that's offensive to me. That's forcing unique and pretty backward moral statured to other people. But noone is asking me...

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:14 am

RPin wrote:I bet Skirting Danger had a reader base as large as yours when it got 'spotted.

Probably not even as much... But it's did have the Graphic Smash credentials that might have appealed to CC.

mcduffies wrote:But really, a comic with two 30something old people who decide to wait with sex until they're married, that's offensive to me. That's forcing unique and pretty backward moral statured to other people. But noone is asking me...

They didn't FORCE it you, know. It was their own choice.

Jeff had no qualms about Fooker and Sharon doing the same thing.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:26 am

Phalanx wrote:
RPin wrote:I bet Skirting Danger had a reader base as large as yours when it got 'spotted.
Probably not even as much... But it's did have the Graphic Smash credentials that might have appealed to CC.

I mean I DOUBT.

"I DOUBT Skirting Danger had a reader base as large as yours when it got 'spotted."

That's better. What an idiot I am.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:39 pm

Phalanx wrote:
mcduffies wrote:But really, a comic with two 30something old people who decide to wait with sex until they're married, that's offensive to me. That's forcing unique and pretty backward moral statured to other people. But noone is asking me...
They didn't FORCE it you, know. It was their own choice.

Jeff had no qualms about Fooker and Sharon doing the same thing.

Hm, I didn't come to the place wit Shannon and Fooker, I guess I quit before that.

But look at it this way: You have two adult, normal people who instantly agree on no sex policy - not kids, or with doubts, like in "It's Walky", but as if that's something that's common. Geffrey is presenting us a vision of the world where no premarital sex is a common thing (which, like it or not, isn't). Maybe unwillingly, but his comic still sends a general message, having his characters presenting normal people.
It's like with "Sex and the city": a series features four women, of various educatio, intelectual, ambition etc levels, acting like total sluts. Thus, they're giving us a picture of every woman in world acting like that. Which is, again, far from reality.

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:24 pm

Strange. I somehow managed to get the impression premaritial sex was just as common in GPF as the real world, and Ki and Nick were simply two exceptions.

Or at least, it seemed that way.

But then, the story is told mainly from their POV, which might skew things a bit.

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:29 pm

Well, the reason I've never tried to actively get myself spotted is that I consider Elf Only Inn to be just a big fat rough draft in the long run. As popular as it has become, I always look back on it and think that it's not ready for prime time because I can do better. I do plan on turning it into something I can support myself with someday, but I want to have honed it to perfection by then. So it doesn't bother me at all that I haven't been sent up to Keenspot. I still don't think I'm ready.

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:03 pm

I'm sure there are places where you could improve. Everyone has those. If you plan to support yourself with EOI or some version of it in the future you could always look at being spotted as a sort of test run for future entrepreneurship. It will give you some experience in print and help you market your comic in whatever form it should take. Keenspace is great and all, but it doesn't provide any services other than web hosting. You need to look into marketing and merchandising if you want to make any money (so says the computer guy). I don't think you should turn down any help that might be available to you just because you don't think you're ready. You may find that your comic has been ready for months and you're the only one holding you back.

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