Crash July 18/19 -- Please report login problems here.

[-Fanny pack]

Well, thanks for fixing the manual update, which works for me now at least. I would be happy if this didn't come hand in hand with the news of keenspace becoming comicgenesis (which 1)is way longer to type and say being 5 syllables instead of 2 and 2) seems like a comic version of a 70's rock band together with a Bscifi movie oh well). What is up with that?

You know, you can use ComicGen instead of Comic Genesis.

I have spent the last year and a half getting everyone who is not in the comics world to remember the name keenspace, put out banners, links, etc as much as possible to get my site publicised, printed it inside my print comics and handed out postcards everywhere I go, to be told that now that I finally have a readership the domain name will disappear? There is no way to "change" those urls. Most of the links to me, and places they have gone are totally out of my control. Livejournal strangers who have turned on more livejournal strangers etc. People who have read recent reviews of my work in international print magazines, sequential tart etc.

The URLs will redirect for some time, if not forever. I imagine that we could convince the Powers That Be to let us keep using the domain name for redirection purposes.

I have no idea what would inspire y'all to mess with that. If there are thousands of comics on Keenspace, multiply that by the thousands of readers they each have and that is a lot of people who are going to be falling through the cracks. Even telling people who have links pages that they need to change the link... many do not have direct access to their templates without going through a webmaster etc, so the updates don't happen. glll.

IIRC, the people who run KeenSPOT (that is, the people who provide your hosting and bandwidth) decided that they were annoyed at morons confusing KeenSPACE with KeenSPOT and said it had to change. There was a bit more to it but that's the basic idea. It was, therefore, almost totally out of our control.

Secondly, why are we not sent an email from keenspace when changes like this happen? Really, if the login had not been broken, there is not a reason in the world that I would have known about it til suddenly the links didn't work. Yay for lack of communication.

This is a good point but, as stated above, the links will work for some time yet, if not forever.

Well, I guess this would be a good time to start thinking about the Modern Tales offer. Really. I had been iffy on that precisely because I didn't want to lose all the hard work getting out the keenspace URL, and losing readers with a domain name change.

Again, you won't lose all your work. Also, you can just fling a big text thing on your site notifying people of the change and leave it up for a few weeks. The links might not change, but whatever.
Besides, you could always get your own domain name. That'd solve the whole problem.

New Worlds. New Dreams. um yeah. Color me peeved.

Cool off, dude. It's not the end of the world.

[Dinogrrl]

er...I can't login to siteadmin at all now o_O. Or my ftp, still.

Oh, do we need to change the ftp address to comicgen.com or something instead of keenspace.com? (I've tried that already, and it didn't work either, but just for future reference...)

[Lilianewithanose]

I'd love to think that a year is a long time. One of my printed books came out March 2004, I still have about 700 copies to sell. I recently realized when I sent someone to my geocities space to a page I made that it had been made Nov 2003, ie nearly 2 yrs ago... the time zoomed by.

I work from home. The mail redirects for one year. The last time I moved, I sent out notices six months in advance and then two weeks in advance. I was getting fedex and purolator deliveries as well as snail mail at my old address two to three years later. I haven't had my comics post office box from when I did zines since 1997, and I still get people searching me out via google, and sending me emails saying they sent snail mail there THIS YEAR and it was returned to them.

The media that addresses is in often doesn't even get printed, distributed, to the customer, and then the customer tries to look up the URL for a year. A year is zip.

cheers.

[-Fanny pack]

I'd love to think that a year is a long time. One of my printed books came out March 2004, I still have about 700 copies to sell. I recently realized when I sent someone to my geocities space to a page I made that it had been made Nov 2003, ie nearly 2 yrs ago... the time zoomed by.

I work from home. The mail redirects for one year. The last time I moved, I sent out notices six months in advance and then two weeks in advance. I was getting fedex and purolator deliveries as well as snail mail at my old address two to three years later. I haven't had my comicpost office box from when I did zines since 1997, and I still get people searching me out via google, and sending me emails saying they sent snail mail there THIS YEAR and it was returned to them.

The media that addresses is in often doesn't even get printed, distributed, to the customer, and then the customer tries to look up the URL for a year. A year is zip.

cheers.

As I said, I'd be willing to bet that we can convince someone to let us keep using the URL to redirect indefinitely, even if not to normally host. Don't worry about it for now.

[Fourthwall]

Since I didn't post my comic name, I figured thsat you'd assume it was the same as my forum name. (This is the case.) (Why else would I call myself an abstract concept?)

[STrRedWolf]

Since I didn't post my comic name, I figured thsat you'd assume it was the same as my forum name. (This is the case.) (Why else would I call myself an abstract concept?)

I can't assume that, for one reason: My comic isn't named "STrRedWolf" it's named "Stalag '99". There is no 1:1 match for comics (and I like it that way).

[Bakaneko555]

I'm still having trouble logging in because the log in page now says "this page cannot be displayed." Um..hoping this will go away soon.

On a side note, I just wanna double check about this. Will everyone have to change all of their old links to ".comicgenesis.com" in due time or just leave it as it is?

[Lilianewithanose]

fanny pack wrote]

Again, you won't lose all your work. Also, you can just fling a big text thing on your site notifying people of the change and leave it up for a few weeks. The links might not change, but whatever.

I am not worried about losing "my work" as in my comics. I am worried about losing all my work of getting the url out there, ie in places where the person listing it has no reason to come look at my page to see if it is correct. If someone who runs a "women in comics" site puts it as one of four hundred links, because someone suggested I contact them in June 2004, they are NOT going to visit my site during a week or two, to know that it needs to be changed. Neither is someone where I left my link in their comments on their blog. Nor when I gave my link as part of a signature to be attached to an excerpt printed in a print publication.

All THAT work of getting out the link will be lost. The people who go "oh let me check it out" and click on the now broken link will just be lost. So much for accumulating advertising. Yes, the daily readers will see it is changed. But that is a very very very small proportion of where a link is posted or printed.

Yeah, "chill dude". thanks. Anyways, it does seem silly that the Keenspot people didn't think of the possible confusion to start with... as it belongs to them, it seems that they might have called it something else to start with.

Anyways, not much we can do about it. Suck up and deal I guess is the order of the day.

And I really don't see how getting my own domain name will solve the problem of the URL changing. It really doesn't matter if it changes to "comicgenesis" or "beebopaloola" does it, if basically the URL will no longer be keenspace. (note, I already own my own domain and have tons of bandwidth, I did NOT move my comics there for this precise reason).

Also, note that when I posted my second reply, the reply about "it is possible it is kept indefinitely" was not yet posted. We were writing simultaneously. Keep that in mind eh.

[Subhuman]

The people who go "oh let me check it out" and click on the now broken link will just be lost.

See, that's the key point - don't you think most of the new readers you hope to rope in will click on those links within the next year? If you've got a bunch of LJ users spreading the word about your comic, eventually they're going to start linking the new URL. You can do something about this - contact the pages that link you, all of them, and give them your new URL. The printed material is another issue - just cut your losses and move on, especially if it was just that once instance.

My point is that until you're sure you can't keep your Keenspace URL for redirecting, there's no use pulling your hair out.

[Black Sparrow]

Username: operationneko
URL: operationneko.keenspace.com

I just signed up earlier this month. I got all my login emails just fine. The email announcing that my site was up said to wait two-to-five days, but day number five was on the eighteenth. I couldn't log in. I tried changing my password, but never got the confirmation email.

Sorry to repost, but I just want to make sure I'm getting taken care of. I just tried changing my password again, but the page didn't seem to be working. Still no email from the last time I did it. I think I might be stuck until I get some intervention. Sorry.

[Biccy]

lostandfound, dreamway: Okay, your login info was removed. I'm recreating it.

Thank you. When do I find out when everything is all fixed?

(e-mail: autumn_hope11@hotmail.com)

[-Fanny pack]

Again, you won't lose all your work. Also, you can just fling a big text thing on your site notifying people of the change and leave it up for a few weeks. The links might not change, but whatever.

I am not worried about losing "my work" as in my comics. I am worried about losing all my work of getting the url out there, ie in places where the person listing it has no reason to come look at my page to see if it is correct. If someone who runs a "women in comics" site puts it as one of four hundred links, because someone suggested I contact them in June 2004, they are NOT going to visit my site during a week or two, to know that it needs to be changed. Neither is someone where I left my link in their comments on their blog. Nor when I gave my link as part of a signature to be attached to an excerpt printed in a print publication.

I freaking know that. That's what I bloody meant. Good lord.

All THAT work of getting out the link will be lost. The people who go "oh let me check it out" and click on the now broken link will just be lost. So much for accumulating advertising. Yes, the daily readers will see it is changed. But that is a very very very small proportion of where a link is posted or printed.

As I said, don't worry about it just yet. We may be able to work something out. Stop fretting.

Yeah, "chill dude". thanks. Anyways, it does seem silly that the Keenspot people didn't think of the possible confusion to start with... as it belongs to them, it seems that they might have called it something else to start with.

When they started, morons didn't make such confusions. Additionally, there wasn't a stigma with the name KeenSPACE like there is now.

Anyways, not much we can do about it. Suck up and deal I guess is the order of the day.

And I really don't see how getting my own domain name will solve the problem of the URL changing. It really doesn't matter if it changes to "comicgenesis" or "beebopaloola" does it, if basically the URL will no longer be keenspace. (note, I already own my own domain and have tons of bandwidth, I did NOT move my comics there for this precise reason).

You do know that you can use Comic Genesis' hosting and bandwidth on your own domain, right? You just need to PM an admin and set your nameservers to the Comicgen ones. It's free, too. How does this solve the problem? Because the URL never changes again. People who go to other domains get redirected to your domain and never need to worry about it changing. Simple.

Also, note that when I posted my second reply, the reply about "it is possible it is kept indefinitely" was not yet posted. We were writing simultaneously. Keep that in mind eh.

And how am I supposed to keep that in mind? I don't notice everything. And even if I had, how do I know you don't just type really fast? I can't. I thought you hadn't seen my post and there was nothing indicating to me otherwise.

[Dinogrrl]

woo! I can access my siteadmin now :}. I was able to force the full update with no problem, and I've even changed my url to comicgen now.

Buuuuuut I still can't access my ftp to change the links for my images and such. meep?

[00_Rae]

Hooray, everything is working fine for me now! Thanks again.

[Fourthwall]

I'm sorry. I guess I just jump to conclusions sometimes!

[Biccy]

I was sent two passwords today and both of them don't work >.>

I'm so to be such a bother.

comic/user name: dreamway
e-mail autumn_hope11@hotmail.com

[STrRedWolf]

dreamway: Try changing your password.

[Black Sparrow]

dreamway: Try changing your password.

Is the password changing service working? I think the link on the login page sends you to http://siteadmintest.comicgenesis.com/cgi-bin/lost_password.cgi, which is no good.

http://siteadmin.comicgenesis.com/cgi-b ... ssword.cgi just refreshes when you press "Generate New password."

At least, that's what I've been getting, and I've been trying from multiple computers.

[DJKID]

username: djkid
URL: djkid.keenspace.com

I'm also new so...yeah. Sorry for bothering you @_@;

[Dinogrrl]

Haha silly me...I figured out why I wasn't able to login to my ftp . My news page still isn't working, but I'll figure that out, too. Thanks for fixing things up!