The O.C.

Tarotreader3 · Post by **Tarotreader3** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:05 pm

I feel like I need to join some support group for twenty something males...

I saw the first episode way back when, and decided I hated the show (not realizing teh comic refferences to come), I then witnissed the art of one of the characters, and was hooked. I have since tracked down all the episodes and find the show charming with its comic refferences, and this upsets me.

do I need help. is it alright to like this show? I 'm thinking no. =)

Driving Without Pants · Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:08 pm

I hate that show. You should be ashamed for liking it. Go sit in the box.

Dutch! · Post by **Dutch!** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:00 pm

Down here Channel Ten is the mob that keep giving us this sort of crap. It's just another piece of American teeny-bopper soap shit they try to shovel into us because they are cheaper to get than to produce some home-grown drama stuff. Although to be fair a lot of our local telly drama has been pretty ordinary lately.

You can lump O.C. in with other pieces of American crap such as 90210, Melrose Place, Class of 96 and Dawson's Creek.

I mean, c'mon! They named an entire suburb or city after one whiny teenager? I am firmly of the belief that American TV is only capable of making three genres. Bad teeny-bopper dramas, bad science fiction soap operas (Stargate, I'm look at you and not even going to register the Star Trek crud), and endless series of Crime Show spin offs.

I'm resorting to BBC documentaries lately...

The Neko · Post by **The Neko** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:08 pm

It's, quite frankly, a prime-time version of a midday soap opera. Other than that, nothing worth noting.

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:21 pm

The OC? I don't get that show. Then again, I don't get the Orange County mentality either.

Although, Mischa Barton is cute.

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:27 pm

Driving Without Pants wrote:I hate that show. You should be ashamed for liking it. Go sit in the box.

Either everyone else is forgetting to capitalize The Box, or There's a cheap generic box out there that you all are throwing people in.

Luprand · Post by **Luprand** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:02 am

I think my Californian roommate phrased it best: "Orange County is like the aristocrats of Victorian England. They have a lot of money and very little to do, so of course they're going to have sex."

--Sij

JexKerome · Post by **JexKerome** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:49 am

Get help fast, tarotreader3.

Dutch! · Post by **Dutch!** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:17 am

From our perspective way over here (16 hours plus ahead of you lot cos we are fast) the Orange County (I have this thing against intiallising everything in the world) is basically just another poor little rich kid drama.

Mind you, I haven't watched it, cos I am clinging to the belief I have a life although I think I'm living three or four at the moment, but from what I've picked up here, my view is shared.

Numina · Post by **Numina** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:00 am

Dutch! wrote: I am firmly of the belief that American TV is only capable of making three genres. Bad teeny-bopper dramas, bad science fiction soap operas (Stargate, I'm look at you and not even going to register the Star Trek crud), and endless series of Crime Show spin offs.

You forgot reality shows.

Forevergrey · Post by **Forevergrey** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:12 am

But I like stargate

Tarotreader3 · Post by **Tarotreader3** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:59 pm

I dunno, I guess I'll try to defend it... It is a lame soap, but some of the characters are really well written, and their story arcs are intense at times, having rising action, climax, and a wee bit of falling action. The back and forth banter is good. if you can get your head past the fact it's a soap there's a lot any writer, or scriper could gain from it. It's something you have to watch entire story lines of at once to appreicate...

it has it's problems, such as the fact that everyone on it is an alcohoilic, and there's an insane amount of drinking and driving that goes unmentioned, but there's some very smartly planned stories, and writing. And for anyone interested in learning a thing or two about their own comic story lines (i mean, apparently it's the number one show out there, so this is what people want to see, and would want to read if you want to bring in a big crowd).

There's also a lot from a sociological point of view, but I'll leave my cultural studies major hat off right now.

Tarotreader3 · Post by **Tarotreader3** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:59 pm

/hated the show for a year and a half before giving it a shot... same with buffy... bah, foolish mistakes.

//still feels guilty for liking it.

Ian Moulding · Post by **Ian Moulding** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:07 pm

Forevergrey wrote:But I like stargate

Unclean! Unclean!

Jen_Babcock · Post by **Jen_Babcock** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:04 pm

I've lived in SoCal for my entire life (going on 23 years) and have never heard people call Orange County "The OC" until that lame show. My friends from Orange County never even called it that.

My friends from Orange County also complain about how Chino is always depicted as "the wrong side of the tracks" on that show, when such a thing doesn't exactly exist down there.

Quite honestly I wondered what this show was going to be about. Orange County is not exactly the most exciting place in the world. There's a bunch of shopping malls and fast food places... and Disneyland, but not much else. I knew there'd be sex of course- no teen drama tv series is w/o that.

The Neko · Post by **The Neko** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:52 pm

Orange County is hardly the richest area in CA. Those in SoCal mostly know "Rancho Santa Fe" as being them most wealthy and stodgy area.

DJMayhem · Post by **DJMayhem** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:32 pm

The Neko wrote:Orange County is hardly the richest area in CA. Those in SoCal mostly know "Rancho Santa Fe" as being them most wealthy and stodgy area.

Oh yeah. I had a friend who lived in that area. Thankfully, their numbers in SoCal are small, to say in the least.

And for The OC, it's a primetime soap for teens. Bleh.

Tarotreader3 · Post by **Tarotreader3** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:03 pm

i dont think the merits of the show are impacted by teh location. I don't think they're trying to realistically portray orange coutny, as much as they are showing what peoples "ideas" of california is. it's just a setting, as fictional as the characters. mmm but it's good.

/still upset abot liking it

Leko · Post by **Leko** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:06 pm

I have a number of friends who like that show.

Of course, they're all hormonal teenaged girls who only watch it cause most of the guys in it are hot.

Draw your own conclusions about tarotreader3 from that.

Dutch! · Post by **Dutch!** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:40 pm

tarotreader3 wrote:apparently it's the number one show out there, so this is what people want to see, and would want to read if you want to bring in a big crowd).

Nah. I reckon it's just everybody's watching it because they haven't found anything good to replace it. Which I think's probably even sadder...

Down here instead of alcoholic kids and sex the relative storylines would generally involve finding a way to get enough money to buy your own Torana or Datsun. Completely different culture, eh?