Behind Chugworth's Doors (VERY NSFW, POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE)

[Van Douchebag]

WARNING! THIS TOPIC IS NSFW AND IS POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE!

http://www.scribblekid.org/


I bet you are all aware Davey aka Scribblekid, the creator of the popular webcomic Chugworth academy, once did hentai.
However, I bet you aren't all aware that Davey also does blatent lolicon and snuff art.

I for one find what he's done disgusting and I think you all should know about it.
For reference's sake, I dug up the archived of his site, thus if you do not believe me you can verify what I'm saying for yourselves.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www ... kid.co.uk/

Davey does lolicons. Clear and blatent lolicons - little girls!
He's even run a poll about it, asking viewers what they to happen to the poor innocent Mia.

Mia is clearly a little girl around the age of 9 or 10[/b]. If you're a parent or have small siblings I would suggest you be prepare to be disgusted.

Although Davey makes her do gross things, [url=http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/vandouchebag/20030324213811_1140.jpg]such as piss over the floor, he clearly shows her age when you see [ur;=http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/vandouche ... 0_3065.jpg]not only does she have a teddy, but also her size and body ratio in comparison to her molester[/url]. Folks, this isn't even consensual sex.

It gets worse. Davey has a darker, sicker side, as witnessed by two Digimon characters raping another and cutting her vagina with a card. Furthermore, she is also a lolicon.

That's not the worst part. Now, snuff is basicly erotic art with dead girls. Davey decided to do it with Lara Croft. But is she an adult? Nope,Lara is a lolicon all shot up.

There is also a picture of Rika from Digimon I was unfortunately unable to find. It's a two parter - the first is a nude lolicon Rika in some skimpy lingerie trying to cover her naughty bits. The second is Rika in the same manner, but with her throat slit, her arm cut off and numerous slashes across her body with lifeless eyes.
If you go to the last month of 2001 in the archive into the Hentai CG section you should find a link to "The Basement". This is where the image originally was, but unfortunately Davey removed it in the same month before the archive archived it.

I want you to look through what I've presented you and think for yourself - do you really want to be reading something done by someone who does essentially cartoon pedophilia and pedophilia-necrophilia?

I know I don't, and if I'm a bad person for that then I don't want to be right.

[Jigglyman]

Why do you post this? It isn't a secret, and you've already said everything you can about Davey on the bCx forums. What are you gaining from making this topic?

[Van Douchebag]

Not everyone attends BCX and not everyone believes me there.
I'm putting this up with irrefutable evidence to his depravity and perversity.

[Toxic]

OH DEAR GOD!

Someone should send comic social services over there. Cartoon characters are people to! (Well, not really...but you get the picture.)

[Joel Fagin]

I'm putting this up with irrefutable evidence to his depravity and perversity.

Yes, but why?

- Joel Fagin

[Soap Soaperson]

Well, gee. Anime kiddie porn?

I always saw the Chugworth icon floating around Onlinecomics.net, so I was thinking of reading it sometime. >_> Nevermind.

Jigglyman, this was news for me and I'm sure many others. There ya have it.

[Edit] When I wrote this comment, I was under the impression (because I didn't read it carefully enough) that this Chugworth comic actually had such images in it. Just for the record.

[Jackhass]

*Shakes head*...yup, that's pretty friggin' sick.

But then, Keenspace's top comic by far is one that revolves entirely around tenticle rape...so it's not like these forums are in some position to act morally righteous.

[Jeffy]

Well, gee. Anime kiddie porn?

I always saw the Chugworth icon floating around Onlinecomics.net, so I was thinking of reading it sometime. >_> Nevermind.

Jigglyman, this was news for me and I'm sure many others. There ya have it.

yeah, I didn't know either, of course, I've never heard of this guy or anything he's ever done before either

[Komiyan]

Eww, I looked at it. now my eyes are unclean
I know people are saying `So what, it's a cartoon on the internet`, but any indication of pedo tendancies is just a very disturbing and incorrect thing. Yeah, we've all been jaded by the internet, we've all seen a bunch of sick stuff worse than this and blah blah blah.. But, I mean- just stop to think. You just don't draw little kids doing that kinda stuff. I know they aren't real, but drawing it is kinda indicating that you want to see the real thing..

[Jackhass]

Yes...the drawings aren't real...

...but if he's drawing this stuff, you know he's watching the real thing, which does feature real kids getting abused.

Let's just hope he isn't actually producing or participating in the real stuff himself.

[Soap Soaperson]

...but if he's drawing this stuff, you know he's watching the real thing, which does feature real kids getting abused

Now, that's not necessarily true.

I'm not gonna sit here and shout, "HE'S A PEDOPHILE IN REAL LIFE." Sure, he uses a distasteful display of cartoon children, but for all we know, it could simply be a fantasy he likes to draw out.

[Komiyan]

It's not as bad an actual picture, no.. But it's got the same meaning behind it. Wrong and bad.

^^^ Having a fantasy about molesting a child ain't right. Putting it to paper ain't right either. The fact that this kinda stuff is about may well encourage people to go and do bad things.

I should stop editing this, but the way I worded that made it sound like I was accusing Soapy :p

[X space coyote X]

...but if he's drawing this stuff, you know he's watching the real thing, which does feature real kids getting abused.

I disagree. I've drawn gay and lesbian anime porn, but I don't watch real life gay and lesbian porn, or even anime porn. Hell, my webcomic is a sci-fi manga, and I don't even read sci-fi mangas.

As for the topic of this thread... *shrugs shoulders and moves on*

[KathleenJ]

Whoa.
This is pretty sick.

But then, Keenspace's top comic by far is one that revolves entirely around tenticle rape...so it's not like these forums are in some position to act morally righteous.

This is where drawing boundaries gets nearly impossible.
Ghastly's comic, for example, is essentially good natured, and revels in gleeful, fun perviness. The tentacle monsters pretty much spoof something that's sinister and exploitative in its original context, and play off the absurdity of it for comic effect. The intent, if I read it right, is mostly to give people a laugh (and sometimes a shock), not to turn them on.
Even a darker adult comic like Sexy Losers, with characters like Shinuji the necrophiliac, and the suicide girl...that's dark humor, alongside dozens of other vignettes basically about how humans are funny creatures when it comes to sex.

But pinup style drawings of little girls getting molested and mutilated or killed...probably done specifically for a creepy little audience that gets off on that kind of thing...

I don't know where the line is drawn (and so much of it has to do with context as well as content), but that's way past it.

[X space coyote X]

^^^ Having a fantasy about molesting a child ain't right. Putting it to paper ain't right either. The fact that this kinda stuff is about may well encourage people to go and do bad things.

That's thinking along the same lines as "Violent video games and Marilyn Manson turn teenagers into killers!!"

I agree that kind of art is sick, but let's try to keep a clean line between art and reality. I've drawn some violent stuff in the past. I wouldn't want people digging up some of my old stuff and accusing me of wanting to go out and kill people.

[Zhan_Dvega]

... meh. I've seen worse.

Really, like, a five minute stroll through 5chan and you're more than guaranteed to see stuff 1,000 times worse than this if you look in the right places.

This is.. I don't think it's any big deal. I mean, if it's a fantasy of his, let him have it. As long as he's putting his energy into putting it down on paper and not louring little girls into the back of a van I don't have a problem with it.

[[AOD]]

Still, the concept seems pretty repellent. I'd like to see what Scribblekid/Dave has to say about all this, though. I mean, what's he feel about VD going through his old stuff and touting invective about him? Perhaps it was just something he did back then.

We don't know what goes on in his mind, so we're going to need more conclusive evidence of well... perversion, before we start going all "The Crucible" on him.

I hate to play the devil's advocate and all, but right now we simply don't know enough about what we're seeing, and its background, in order to make any judgment about the guy. Moreover, all that we have to base our views on are Van Douchebag's opinions, which may or may not be accurate.

Food for thought.

@~AoD

[X space coyote X]

This is what Dave said regarding his past art at another forum:

"I got bored of it, grew out of it, and now do something I think is more worthwhile and enjoyable. (Note, something more worthwhile isn't coming to a message board with the express intention of revealling "dark secrets" that everyone already knows about" =O!!!!)"

[...]

"I think my style has come on a lot faster in the last year doing Chugworth and year and a bit before that doing Lonley Hearts than it had before doing pr0n. Cos let's face it, there's only so many ways you can draw people having sex, it's bound to get stale when you leave the "hormonal middle-teen" stage."

I think we should just leave him alone.

[Komiyan]

^^^ Having a fantasy about molesting a child ain't right. Putting it to paper ain't right either. The fact that this kinda stuff is about may well encourage people to go and do bad things.

That's thinking along the same lines as "Violent video games and Marilyn Manson turn teenagers into killers!!"

I agree that kind of art is sick, but let's try to keep a clean line between art and reality. I've drawn some violent stuff in the past. I wouldn't want people digging up some of my old stuff and accusing me of wanting to go out and kill people.

`Encouraging` and `creating`are different things. While it wouldn't turn a normal person into a pedo, it might tip a person who's considered it before right into full blown pedo-ness (oh yeah, that's a word).

And I think its a different case to violence on TV and in art, because that stuff is mainstream, and you kinda learn from a young age (or at least should) that that stuff isn't a guide for life. You only find these drawings if you seek them out, and if you're seeking them out, it's not a case of an innocent corrupted by the internet, that person was already messed up to begin with.
And yeah, I know there's nothing you can do about it, good ol' internet and all, but you can't deny that drawing pre-pubescent girls being raped by big men is NOT allowable.
Ok, so it's 4am, and I'm very tired, so I think I made up a few words there. Sorry :S

edit-

Cos let's face it, there's only so many ways you can draw people having sex, it's bound to get stale when you leave the "hormonal middle-teen" stage."

Not that many people go through their childmolesting stage, though.. Bloody hell, the internet severly jades people..
Well, I'm done now.. Think I made my point.

[Hard]

I find this witch hunt very hysterical. Exploiting real life children is one thing, but this is all just lines on paper. What's funny is how some of you have tried to extrapolate it to say that he must watch real life kiddie porn or wants to go out and rape little kids. The same logic says Stephen King must want to go out and kill people, because that's what he writes about. What's truly shameful here is how people try to build a case on a guy based on some drawings he did in his past. If some of you only knew what half your favorite Japanese artists were drawing BEFORE they got famous...

Sure it's tasteless, but as I said, it's only lines on paper, and no one is telling you to look, and no one was actually harmed while drawing them.