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WB · Post by WB » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:25 am

Check out the new themesongs ^__^ I think my favorites up there are Grape Ape and The Tom and Jerry Show <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Once the comics start back up - I'll dedicate the first week in December to Smurfs (theres Cartoon Network news as to why I'm doing this) and the second week in December to Snorks <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">FUN FUN SILLY WILLY! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> **cackles like a madman**Cee-joo latah! Can anyone get the cool points question? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">------------------

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ZOMBIE USER 5778 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 5778** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 3:10 am

I know the answer to the second cool points question but i can't remember it. Oh well. Here goes nothing.The two commentaators were the two mice who did the commentary in Space Jam.
The cartoon was the TOONOLYMPICS.
I have no idea what the three teams were.AAAARRRRGH!!! I CAN'T REMEMBER!!!

Slane · Post by **Slane** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 1:49 am

I already sent this as an e-mail to Dub, but oh well.A) Chuck Jones and Gene Deitch.B) Commentators were Hokey Wolf and SnagglepussEDIT: Sorry; it's Mildew Wolf, not Hokey Wolf.The show: Laff-A-LympicsThe teams: Yogi Yahooeys, Scooby Doobies, and the Really Rottens.Thank you, us.imdb.com for the Really Rottens and Gene Dietrich answers. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Also, G24, the two mice were Chuck Jones' Hubie and Bertie, voiced by Mel Blanc and Stan Freberg. Yes, I have way too much time on my hands and a lot of cartoon knowledge.Man, Hubie and Bertie were the best! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
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True Red · Post by **True Red** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 2:06 am

Yogi's team rocked!!I still never liked the fact that Scooby's team won almost all the time. I remember at one point of watching the series that the Rottens had "won" more aired episodes than Yogi's team for a brief moment, which I didn't like as I have always preferred Yogi and the chars on Yogi's team to Scooby and the chars on Scooby's any day. I never was much of a Scooby fan. It's alright, but I prefered Grape Ape, Quickdraw, Huckleberry, etc. anyday of the week. ^_^Yeah, Hubie & Bertie do rock. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">------------------
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Slane · Post by **Slane** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 5:10 am

I do prefer Yogi's team more. I mean, those were the CLASSICS! Now, I just need to remember who was on which team.Yogi Yahooeys: Yogi, Booboo, Grape Ape, Quickdraw, Huckleberry, Hokey Wolf...can't remember any others. Were Atom Ant, Magilla Gorilla, Squiddly Diddly, and Baba Looey on the team?Scooby Doobies: Scooby, Shaggy, Captain Caveman and his girls, Secret Squirrel (?), Hong Kong Phooey (?; I really liked him, though <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">), Dynomutt, Blue Falcon, Speed Buggy and Tinker...the rest is a blank.Really Rottens: Muttley, Duke Dastardly (not sure of name; that guy who looked/sounded like Dick Dastardly), the Gruesome family, the Dalton brothers...that pig...that country lady...uh...blank again.Man, WHERE did they come up with the Really Rotten characters? I remember Muttley and the Dick Dastardly rip-off from a Yogi movie, Muttley from the Dick Dastardly show and Wacky Races, the Daltons from The Good, the Bad, and the Huckleberry Hound, and the Gruesomes from the Flintstones, but where did the rest come from? That team could never win.[This message has been edited by Slane (edited 11-22-2001).]

Slane · Post by **Slane** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 5:09 am

MILDEW!!!That was the name of the other commentator, not Hokey Wolf!!! It was Snagglepuss and Mildew Wolf!!!Well, that's all. So...When's Dub gonna tell us who got the points?

WB · Post by WB » Sat Nov 24, 2001 3:34 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I JUST LOST THE WHOLE POST!!! @$*%@^!!!
Sigh...time to start over.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Welcome to my world <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Thanks for the extra info, Dub. I wish Laff-A-Lympics would come back on. Oh well; just have to wait for the next summer Olympics, I guess.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Cartoon Network and Teletoon always replay it everytime the olympics comes on. It just so happen that I had a friend tape the series for me, but I gotta find my tapes somewhere. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I hate Deitch's T&J's. They just look so crappy, and the movements and plots were about the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You aint the only one. I've grown to tolerate em, but I still dont like em.

The animation is just WAY too odd, coupled with the side effects and whatnot just make them feel really weird.My favorite is probably "The Tom and Jerry Cartoon Kit", but thats about it really. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> The problem is though, IMO - he got Tom and Jerry right in personality moreso than Jones did in a lot of cases. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I like the H-B the most, but the Jones era was good too. The ending to the one where Jerry goes invisible and the other one where Jerry and the other mouse scare Tom in his sleep got on my nerves, though. Jones' tended to rip off himself a little too much.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So you noticed that that episode "Year Of The Mouse", is a ripoff of Hubie and Bertie from Warner Bros, huh? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> Theres another one thats awfully similar to a Warner Bros. Looney tune cartoon by Friz Freleng called Mouse and Garden. The whole thing takes place on a pier at night with two cats squabbling over a mouse.The chronology goes:Tom and Jerry (H-B Theatricals)
Tom and Jerry (Chuck Jones version)
Tom and Jerry (Gene Deitch verson)
The Tom And Jerry Show (New HB Version - didnt fight much anymore)
The Tom And Jerry Show (Filmation Version) - NASTY NASTY NASTY CARTOON !!!!
Tom And Jerry Kids
Tom And Jerry the Movie - CN wont even PLAY this its so bad ^^
Tom And Jerry: Mansion Cat - First new short in A LOT of years. Pretty decent.
Tom And Jerry: The Magic Ring - New T&J movie that Cartoon Network is supervising. There will be NO TALKING in it ^^ <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Did you ever seen the Popeye's on the Family Channel? Were those by Deitch as well? Those were cool but messed up; they had to keep putting on public service messages. I remember Popeye showing us how to ice skate and telling us that his pipe didn't really have tobacco in it. YEAH, RIGHT!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
**screams** The Hanna Barbera Popeye's! @__@ Thier not bad....sometimes....but they aint great. Probably the WORST Popeye cartoon in existance is Popeye and Son where Popeye openly says he cant fight cause fighting is bad. It gives Popeye fans anuerisms.The problem with the Popeyes and T&J's of the 70's is because thats when there was this big kick with PTA groups and violence on TV. And whose more violent than T&J, Popeye, and the Looney Tunes. All three suffered MAJOR editing back in thier day. Right now some of the LT's that are shown on cartoon network had not been seen in years.As far as the Popeye's goes - the chronology goes something like this:Popeye The Sailor (Fliescher Studios - B&W: Currently being restored)
Popeye The Sailor: (Fliescher becomes Famous Studios when it goes to color)
Popeye The Sailor: (King Features Package)These are the over 200 plus cartoons done by different directors - one of whom was Gene Dietch, the other was Hanna Barbera, and a few some ex Disney directors that aired on TV and was based moreso on the Thimble Theatre comic strip.Popeye The Sailor (Hanna Barbera Version) - The various versions of this are the ones that aired on the Family channelPopeye and Son - NASTY NASTY NASTY CARTOON! EVIL!!! ^^ <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>One other thing...Deitch made those T&J's in the Czetch? Huh...This puts a whole meaning on that episode of The Simpsons where Krusty has to show those Russians rip-offs of Itchy and Scratcy. Hehe...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Doesnt it though? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">MGM commisioned Deitch to do them cause he had grown popular in animation circles back then. So his studio in Prague got the liscense to produce them when Jones finished. I cant remember though if Jones went first or Deitch went first. ------------------Dub's Sig - Version 4.2: The Signature Of The Idiot Savant!<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> <A HREF="http://chipandwalter.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>CNW & Time Trouble: My Daily Comic Strips</A>
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WB · Post by WB » Sat Nov 24, 2001 8:49 am

Slane - you got the majority of them right actually <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">I dont remember all the members of each team - but from what I can recall:The Scooby Doobies wew: Scooby Doo and Shaggy, Dynomutt and Blue Falcon, Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels, Speed Buggy and Tinker, Hong Kong Phooey and Jabberjaw, Grape Ape and Fleagle Beagle.The Yogi Yahooeys were the classic HB Characters: Yogi Bear and Booboo, Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy, Snooper and Blabber, Magilla Gorilla, Atom Ant, Squiddley Diddley, Quick Draw mcGraw and Baba Looey, and of course Huckleberry Hound. Hokey Wolf and Ding a Ling were replacement characters as were Pixie, Dixie, and Mr. Jinks. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">The Really Rottens were the Dread Baron and Mumbley (who were from "Yogi Bear and The Spruce Moose) - Dread Baron was Dick Dastardly's cousin. The Dalton Brothers were from "The Good the Bad and Huckleberry Hound", I THINK Daisy Mae was from Scooby Doo and the Ghoul School but I may be incorrect on that. I've no idea on the pig, and of course the Gruesomes were from the Flintstones. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">I got SO MANY answers mixing Mildew Wolf with Hokey Wolf ^_____^ I always liked Hokey better though. As for Tom and Jerry - Gene Deitch's T&J's, which were made in prague Chezchoslovakia, are too kitschy for me...If I were to choose between him and Chuck Jones it'd definetaly be Jones.

Deitch's were odd. The same goes for his Popeye cartoons as well (which are in the Kings Features package that has never aired on Cartoon Network).------------------

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Slane · Post by **Slane** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 8:49 am

Okay...this is strange. I just hit the quote button to have it quote your message, Dub, so that I could see what to reply to, but it only quoted from "Doesn't it though? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">" down. Sigh...computers haunt me during my homework, haunt me in Yearbook, haunt me over Thanksgiving weekend. May I please have permission to smash my computer to bits?I thought the Cartoon Kit was okay; I still avoid Deitch like the plague, though. You're right, however; he did capture Tom and Jerry better than Jones. In some, Jones made the cat and mouse a little too buddy buddy.I don't think I've seen Mouse and Garden. I'll have to look for that one. I just remembered that McKimson (I believe) rip-offed the same Hubie and Bertie cartoon as well; it was where the Goofy Gohpers kept tricking the Barnyard Dog from Foghorn Leghorn. I really liked that cartoon, though; the ending has the best payoff. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin ... P>Speaking of rip offs, was anyone watching Cartoon Network while I was posting this? Toonheads is doing a one-hour special talking about cartoons ripping off on another! They'll talk about Freling's Rabbit Rhapsody ripping off Hanna-Barbera's Tom and Jerry short (or was it the other way around...didn't MGM release the Tom and Jerry one sooner so they could beat Warner Bros. for the Oscar?), and something about Marvin the Marvin. What did he rip off of? The Romans and Flash Gordon?I'm trying to remember some of the different Tom and Jerry's. I don't remember the new HB and the Filmation. I saw some new version of it on television back in the early 90s or so; all I remember are security guards singing and Bigfoot (who only had one big foot) becoming a forest ranger stomping out fires. Tom And Jerry Kids was cool, although some of the new characters they kept creating got REALLY annoying! At least I got to hear Phil Hartman as that door-to-door selling cat. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> I didn't think Tom and Jerry the Movie was so bad, except that it didn't follow the shorts in any way and the voices for our favorite duo were pretty messed up. The voice of Kit Cloudkicker from Tails Spin as Jerry...God help us all. Does Miramax still own the movie?Where can I find Mansion Cat?Wait...there was a version of Popeye where he wouldn't beat people up? LOL!!! That's just messed up!Screw the violence people. Those cartoons were not the worse I have ever seen. I mean, ones where the characters killed themselves (like that one with Daffy and the Nazi bird spy, where Hitler's men kill themselves) were pretty messed up, but the violence wasn't THAT bad! Then again, I remember watching Titus this week where his brother, Dave, painted a tunnel on the wall thinking he could run through it. Moron. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">BTW, I was watching UPN today and they had this Hanna-Barbera produced Pink Panther cartoon series, except it stared panther children and only had Pink in it once. That, and this episode had some genie and two lions. Has anyone seen this? What's the title of it?Whew! Long enough, everyone?[This message has been edited by Slane (edited 11-24-2001).]

Slane · Post by **Slane** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 10:34 am

I JUST LOST THE WHOLE POST!!! @$*%@^!!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/mad.gif">Sigh...time to start over.Thanks for the extra info, Dub. I wish Laff-A-Lympics would come back on. Oh well; just have to wait for the next summer Olympics, I guess.I hate Deitch's T&J's. They just look so crappy, and the movements and plots were about the same. I like the H-B the most, but the Jones era was good too. The ending to the one where Jerry goes invisible and the other one where Jerry and the other mouse scare Tom in his sleep got on my nerves, though. Jones' tended to rip off himself a little too much. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">Did you ever seen the Popeye's on the Family Channel? Were those by Deitch as well? Those were cool but messed up; they had to keep putting on public service messages. I remember Popeye showing us how to ice skate and telling us that his pipe didn't really have tobacco in it. YEAH, RIGHT!!!One other thing...Deitch made those T&J's in the Czetch? Huh...This puts a whole meaning on that episode of The Simpsons where Krusty has to show those Russians rip-offs of Itchy and Scratcy. Hehe... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">[This message has been edited by Slane (edited 11-24-2001).]

True Red · Post by **True Red** » Sun Nov 25, 2001 3:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Slane:
Sigh...computers haunt me during my homework, haunt me in Yearbook, haunt me over Thanksgiving weekend. May I please have permission to smash my computer to bits?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I know this technically isn't relevant to the current discussion in this topic, but you just reminded me of a "fortune" I read during my 4 days of basically living seemingly 24/7 in a computer lab (long story).Anyway, it said:For every error blamed on the computer there are at least two human errors, one of which is blaming it on the computer.It's not your computer, it's just how the UBB is coded in this version. If you try to quote someone's post that is filled with someone previously quoting, it doesn't work "properly" (or in the way you want it to do so). That's not your computer's fault, but the fault of the people who created this script.Okay, I'm done on the computer kick for now. ^_^------------------
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Slane · Post by **Slane** » Sun Nov 25, 2001 8:59 am

Oh...Well, that's different then. May I have permission to cuss out the person who coded this UBB? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">I try not to blame equipment for my problems, TR, but it's difficult. I'm the computer editor/tech person for my school's yearbook, and there is always some problem. I've had about three laptops not work after starting up (probably due to the new program I put on them), have to answer about twenty questions from four different people about how to get colors, clip art, page numbers, etc., go to the school's technician so he can remove the security system for a second so I can install upgrades, AND make by own deadline by having to make layouts for senior ads that want a full page that is supposed to have about ten pictures and eight paragraphs of text!Now you can see a little bit why computers are starting to annoy me.Oh, and my art program keeps running out of RAM and I lose my work. Crap. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">