Oct. 31 '01

Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 3:42 am

Nice!
But unless I'm not looking carefully and she already is, shouldn't Wendy be going as a vampire?
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 31, 2001 4:19 am

Wendy? Vampire? Howso? I honestly fail to see the connection. *giggle* Also...<P><IMG SRC="http://hem.passagen.se/area13chillor/hallow1.jpg">
Is how I and my horse went. Aren't we pretty?<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 4:29 am

Wendy, a vampire- ordinarily, I'd say, because she's "out for blood" - but one could so easily take that... wrong. She does so like the look of it, though, and it seems to have been the first thing that caught her attention the once she caught up again with Shadowrose.<P>Eep!..
Erm... I mean, indeed!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Hope you had tons of fun!!!
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 31, 2001 10:58 am

Oh, makes sense then. The idea, however, falls on the point that vampires seldom are pretty, colorful, sparkly, etc. I could easily see her dressing up as Skids from <A HREF="http://boymeetsboy.keenspace.com">BmB</A>, though.<P>Or Kiki. <P>Fun, yes, for the five minutes it took to go trick-or-treating my own house. Wouldn't go anywhere else, and it was COLD out, especially dressed that lightly.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:20 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Oh, makes sense then. The idea, however, falls on the point that vampires seldom are pretty, colorful, sparkly, etc. I could easily see her dressing up as Skids from <A HREF="http://boymeetsboy.keenspace.com">BmB</A>, though.<P>Or Kiki.
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Hrm. Point. (Points. Canine teeth, even. The sharp ones.)
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Fun, yes, for the five minutes it took to go trick-or-treating my own house. Wouldn't go anywhere else, and it was COLD out, especially dressed that lightly.<P>
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Gah <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> . Well, Happy Halloween, in any event!<P>-Eric Schissel<P>When roses are about to fade,
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:27 am

*giggle* I could see the thought of silver bullets appeal to her, though. But perhaps that was werewolves? <P>(In which case Shadowrose would be happy to inform us all that strong corroders are just as good for slaying werewolves. And not as noisy.)<P>Shadowrose won't hurt you, no. He's busy trying to find a way to rid himself of a certain ghost...<P>
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Postby Schissel on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:39 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*giggle* I could see the thought of silver bullets appeal to her, though. But perhaps that was werewolves? <P>(In which case Shadowrose would be happy to inform us all that strong corroders are just as good for slaying werewolves. And not as noisy.)<P>Shadowrose won't hurt you, no. He's busy trying to find a way to rid himself of a certain ghost...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, having read today's comic (and getting back to it *g*), I suppose... yes. Of course, that's assuming that's not a <I>different</I> amber pendant ... there's a thought. (And thought #2 : if not, perhaps Irooz with Nequii around may have to be more polite than Irooz alone, Nequii being who Nequii is. Nequii doesn't "show" his divinity all that often, perhaps, but he is, nonetheless.)<P>But even after Shadowrose has quite adequately settled matters with Irooz he can handle matters of lower priority such as posting quasi-bards that he might consider somewhat taunting like yours truly <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"><P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:11 am

Nequii is, indeed. And since he doesn't have a defined area, he settles for intervening with the mortals' lives and just getting along. <P>After he's settled matters with Irooz, if ever, he's likely going to plot out a way to get hold of his creator and hurt her for putting him through hell four times a week.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:24 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Nequii is, indeed. And since he doesn't have a defined area, he settles for intervening with the mortals' lives and just getting along.
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I had been wondering what Nequii was god <I>of</I>, actually, yes, and thought I'd missed something *g*... but being "at-large" in diplomatic parlance can be a satisfactory state of affairs.
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After he's settled matters with Irooz, if ever, he's likely going to plot out a way to get hold of his creator and hurt her for putting him through hell four times a week.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Let's see how he settles matters with her (I shouldn't mind if they at least temporarily set aside their differences, I imagine Sah' might be pleased to see her even half-alive again when he returns, I might be mistaken...) and perhaps instead of trying to get even with his creator <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> he might find some way of finding the occasional joy in life instead. Though that seems a long way off for Shadowrose I suppose and the remark of somewhat more of an optimist than I at least am generally taken for being... almost certainly it would not immediately be in character and would require time- impersonalo.
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Postby Schissel on Fri Nov 02, 2001 3:11 am

(By the by, as to the caption Oct. 31 and the costumes they were actually wearing- assuming Irooz was going as a werewolf, but...- I'm not really sure I have a clue. *g*
Hope the other Haveners gave them nice candy, even if it was out of continuity. Now returning to regularly scheduled...)
(EDIT: my idea for a quiz- guessing what kind of candy the various Haveners would have in their baskets on Hallowe'en night... for I do wonder <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Would Rey even bother, e.g.- and would anyone want to try something they took from his cache? ... (scratches head. on second and edited thought, I think I was thinking of someone else...) )
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 04, 2001 2:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I don't name Neq's father? My bad. I did think I had.
'Tis Uwghlock, anyways, the fox-God, God of Nature, Hunter and Hunted. Uwghlock was originally God of the Stardust Foxes, the race all vulpines except some polar foxes belonged to prior to being rendered insentient by Camael, and he tried to outwit Camael to give his Children a considerable advantage. So Camael sent all the other animals' Gods into hibernation and took Uwghlock to serve him.
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Ahh! (Animals and Uwghlock both rendered insentient, or just animals?)
My...
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The dragons escaped insentience since they were too stupid to pose a threat. They gained in intelligence, since, and Camael lost in the ways of power, so he can't do anything against them now.<P>*snicker* Now I'm curious as to whom you meant.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Unfortunately, I don't think any regular in Haven "meets the conditions" I had in my mind at the time (too selfish to lay out candy, but malevolent enough to poison the candy if they did lay some out.) I don't... think so, anyhow...<P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:03 am

*snicker* 'Diplomatic' can be discussed... He is rather... Well... Let's just say there's a pretty symbolic reason for him to be in Haven of all places, except for his brother being there. Camael doesn't like his father. His two tails are the result of a curse Camael cast upon him. As is uncontrolled shapeshifting from almost-human (think Savrin from <A HREF="http://furfire.keenspace.com">Furfire</A> or something) to oversized two-tailed fox. But it's better than to be dead. The Curse on Haven negates the shapeshifting part of his personal Curse, though.<P>Oh, 'Rose can have fun if he wants to, but he doesn't think he deserves it, so he doesn't want to. That's the short story. The long story has to do with his very tragic past. *nod*<P>R
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:20 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*snicker* 'Diplomatic' can be discussed... He is rather... Well... Let's just say there's a pretty symbolic reason for him to be in Haven of all places, except for his brother being there. Camael doesn't like his father.
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(Nequii's father... hrm. You don't name Nequii's father on the cast page, and I assume Nequii and Sah' are half-brothers otherwise you would refer to this person in the <I>past</I> tense...
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His two tails are the result of a curse Camael cast upon him. As is uncontrolled shapeshifting from almost-human (think Savrin from <A HREF="http://furfire.keenspace.com">Furfire</A> or something) to oversized two-tailed fox. But it's better than to be dead. The Curse on Haven negates the shapeshifting part of his personal Curse, though.<P>Oh, 'Rose can have fun if he wants to, but he doesn't think he deserves it, so he doesn't want to. That's the short story. The long story has to do with his very tragic past. *nod*<P>R
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 04, 2001 12:00 pm

I don't name Neq's father? My bad. I did think I had. 'Tis Uwghlock, anyways, the fox-God, God of Nature, Hunter and Hunted. Uwghlock was originally God of the Stardust Foxes, the race all vulpines except some polar foxes belonged to prior to being rendered insentient by Camael, and he tried to outwit Camael to give his Children a considerable advantage. So Camael sent all the other animals' Gods into hibernation and took Uwghlock to serve him. The dragons escaped insentience since they were too stupid to pose a threat. They gained in intelligence, since, and Camael lost in the ways of power, so he can't do anything against them now.<P>*snicker* Now I'm curious as to whom you meant.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>The Council of Paladins has been around for a very, very long time. But they only are there because Gods don't care about politics, and Paladins are trusted enough that if a Paladin would make a statement one way or the other, everyone would follow him.
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Hrm... "politics" (half-*g*). If one's interested in definitions (my own inclinations in "philosophy of language" tend, for what little it's worth, very far away from dictionary definition and very well toward actual social use) it seems to be a word with about 5+ definitions in the online Merriam-Webster's, of which the fifth seems the most useful, the total complex of relations between people living in society. And the question of whether the Gods get involved in or even care about that - hrm. Cazhar encouraging Shadowrose's suicide on the one hand, but Camael's annoyance over Nequii's interference on the other? The evidence you're providing seems equivocal <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> (Ok, maybe not so equivocal, since Cazhar seems a doggy loose cannon) (EDIT: Eric rereads chapter 1-14 of OMW. Cazhar- Death- doggy loose cannon my horsy hoof <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Canine, though. *g* )
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So it could throw the power balance in Erigineea over pretty badly if the Council hadn't been there to make important decicions. They were the ones that made the High King forbid mercs to ride in Companies, too.
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The long-term significance of this decision is one I haven't grasped- unless it's something that just hasn't come up yet...
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The Gods decide who is going to be made Paladin, even though the heads of the temple in question nominate a few Candidates to go through training. And since R
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:40 am

Animals. The animals' Gods, with the exception of Uwghlock, were sent into deep hibernation. Lately, the Deer's God woke, as did Alioda, the equine Goddess. She was, overall, not as deeply asleep as the others, since the sentient forms of horses (pegasis, unicorns, dracasis, so on) live in Lands of the Orders and unicorns and dracasis are used for mounts in Westlands and Erigineea.<P>Umm, no, I would hope noone quite -that- malicious would be made a Paladin.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:57 am

How long has the Paladin's Council been around, anyhow... Hopefully long enough to have some serious ritual going. It really is turning out to be bad enough that Rey got in...
Alioda's name is familiar (used in exclamations enough times by now, I suspect *g* ). Thanks!
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Nov 05, 2001 10:31 am

The Council of Paladins has been around for a very, very long time. But they only are there because Gods don't care about politics, and Paladins are trusted enough that if a Paladin would make a statement one way or the other, everyone would follow him. So it could throw the power balance in Erigineea over pretty badly if the Council hadn't been there to make important decicions. They were the ones that made the High King forbid mercs to ride in Companies, too.<P>The Gods decide who is going to be made Paladin, even though the heads of the temple in question nominate a few Candidates to go through training. And since R
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:56 am

Oh, no, Cazhar didn't encourage Shadow's suicide, Cazhar is Death, and came to collect his treat. So to speak. But yes, he's a dog. <P>But, yes, the definition of politics in this case would be that fifth one, people living in society and so on.<P>Mercs ride around in companies, it's easier to hire a bunch of them, and thus, easier to overthrow power balance, slay an important Lord or the King himself...<P>Definitely. And since R
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Postby Schissel on Wed Nov 07, 2001 1:22 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Oh, no, Cazhar didn't encourage Shadow's suicide, Cazhar is Death, and came to collect his treat. So to speak. But yes, he's a dog.
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Ahhh.
Well, it's true that I usually think more of a scythe, skull and crossbones when I think of Death (Neil Gaiman's and Terry Pratchett's versions aside- and Terry Pratchett's version does meet that <I>physical</I> profile...) (and I shouldn't forget about a dozen other counterexamples...) - this does make me think yet again about the events surrounding 'Rose's suicide attempt and their consequents. I'd thought Nequii and his mother were acting to prevent divine (other divine) intervention, but apparently they were the only source of it in the area. (Be it understood that- especially given the circumstances, the results, the...- I'm just sorting things out in my mind; I'm definitely glad they intervened, but while Camael has a mad-on at Nequii to begin with, his comment on 'napping him that he's been interfering is making more sense, in a way. Something else, on another topic: as to Nequii's father's name, in a way, you <I>did</I> mention it- you gave Nequii it qua surname; I didn't quite catch on...)
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But, yes, the definition of politics in this case would be that fifth one, people living in society and so on.
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Hrm... I am <B>guessing</B> this can "take in" just about everything from their abstract social structures that people have had for millennia (well, not always!) to the specifics of their particular rulers-of-the-day (or minute) and current law or lawlessness but... just guessing. So the Gods appoint the Paladins (for the most part) and the Paladins occasionally make temporal (in the archaic sense) rulings? Gotcha...
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Mercs ride around in companies, it's easier to hire a bunch of them, and thus, easier to overthrow power balance, slay an important Lord or the King himself...
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Ah <I>hah</I>. "Professional armies or assassins only need apply."
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Definitely. And since R
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