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Postby Schissel on Mon Oct 29, 2001 2:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*snicker* Well, she's Jaqueleen. Partially modelled after the infamous bimbo five in my brother's class, and nobody ever blamed <I>them</I> of anything remotely resembling tact.
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Not asking *chuckle*
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'Rose is likely to be painfully civil, and act as if he were back in his old profession (ie sleeping fully dressed and with a dagger under his pillow, wariness incarnate), if anything. "Oh, but <I>Lady</I> Jaqueleen, surely you shouldn't...". *giggle* He's good at that.
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Erbple. *g*
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Officially 'tis Rel that does it. In practise, he gets his brother to do it for him, which just about everyone knows.
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Well, certainly Viron wasn't fooled.
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Seeing as Viron thinks the same things as rest of Haven (that may or may not be true), that there's something more than friendship between 'Rose and his nephew, I don't think he'd suspect Erinzo for trying to get 'Rose out on the Border early, rather the opposite, if anything.
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Depends I suppose on whether Erinzo thinks 'Rose's wishes to take Border guard duty early (when he learns of them, as I would assume he soon would) are more important then 'Rose's health...
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And 'Rose takes a fair deal more Guard shifts than he's scheduled to, simply showing up and telling the person out to go in.
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Not surprised, actually...
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It's something I'm trying to steal from the Pini's (of ElfQuest, best comic I've ever read, even as I don't have all of them)
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Haven't read them yet but I've certainly heard of them. Sometime I'll get ahold of some.
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is how characters act on motivation rather than on being 'good' or 'bad'. Well except for Dark Unicorns and similar, but their personality is based on <I>evil</I>, so they're still sorta acting on motivation.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Reminds me somewhat of a different, but related, long discussion I had with a writer friend which has influenced how I've experienced (and judged) every story, book, comic, movie, ... I've encountered since...<P>-Eric Schissel<P>------------------
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:30 am

*grynn* Very likely, even, that that is what Jaq is out to get. And her logics are likely based on the (incorrect) assumption all men care about what is 'manly' and that 'manly' clashes with gay. <P>Most of the other storylines mentioned are happening, at least the ones of more serious nature. And Kit's Karaoke Machine, since I need that one to introduce someone that's going to be in Fenni's Quest. *giggle* This storyline is stretching, likely going to turn out to last a year or more.<P>That joke is classic. But, yes, unfair. (Put it <I>down</I>, 'Scii, I'm not going to say anything!) Shadowrose isn't half as false as most Assassins.<P>I have no doubts that Viron has been asking Erinzo about everything between heaven and hell, nevermind the fact 'Rinzo is likely to have been very uneager to answer anything at all.<P>And I'd tend to agree that things that bear rereading are better than those that are not. A lot better.<P><P>------------------
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Postby Schissel on Tue Oct 30, 2001 3:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I didn't say it fools anyone anymore, except, ironically, their honoured father. He thinks Rel has done <I>such</I> a good job in the past, so he puts Rel on the job again.
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*chuckle*
I'll admit I find Rel very occasionally sympathetic (I think particularly of when he was looking for Nequii (EDIT: Sept. 4 2001.),) so I hope he gets a clue, so to speak, and grows as a character. But if not, not.
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Like a true friend, Erinzo is likely to value 'Rose's well-being over his strangely-motivated wishes. You are not a friend until you can tell your friend off, or something like that, I think someone said.
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Ah well, all my silly theory needed was for Viron to think otherwise. Still, this is good to know. If only this were reassuring, since what you've already said basically does assure me that Shadowrose will find a way anyway.
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Cardboard characters ceased to amuse me long ago, and that was the reason of the death of many a story of mine. Including the one where 'Thrainem is still Anya Ironhand, or the one before that, about Anya's mother. Whom, interestingly enough, Sah's and Shadow's father slain. Anya never knew that, though.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrm. Nice plots, anyhow.
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Tue Oct 30, 2001 11:07 am

I didn't say it fools anyone anymore, except, ironically, their honoured father. He thinks Rel has done <I>such</I> a good job in the past, so he puts Rel on the job again. <P>Like a true friend, Erinzo is likely to value 'Rose's well-being over his strangely-motivated wishes. You are not a friend until you can tell your friend off, or something like that, I think someone said.<P>Cardboard characters ceased to amuse me long ago, and that was the reason of the death of many a story of mine. Including the one where 'Thrainem is still Anya Ironhand, or the one before that, about Anya's mother. Whom, interestingly enough, Sah's and Shadow's father slain. Anya never knew that, though.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 5:57 am

*mock-annoyance* (not, for all that, real...)
Between the teaser and the Halloween special and the occasional but well-deserved Freefall-like leisureliness of the storytelling (just how well-deserved becomes clear as I reread and see all the telling detail that the slower pace allowed and which I'd missed that first time through; but that's getting off-track...) - it <I>might</I> just be a while before Nequii gets to say what he has to say, and we learn (if we do learn! *g*) if that pendant 'round his neck mightn't be an amber pendant serving for the nonce as the body of a werewolf shaman of our recent acquaintance?... (?!?.)
*chuckle*
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:20 am

The likelihood of Rel growing a character is, in fact, pretty good. Achira, on the other paw, now her... Owch. Not a chance.<P>Hmm... It's pretty hard to convince a homicidal semi-workaholic to take some time off and just <I>rest</I>, isn't it? We'll see if Zvee and 'Rinzo can give him other things to keep his mind on, hmm?<P>Nice plots, yes, but the way I worked them was nothing short of awful. I like a few passages, still, but most of it is crappy. But it's failures that we learn from, so...<P>*snicker* There was supposed to be two more strips before the Halloween special, but I stuck the teaser in between, and didn't see that I'd meant to have double strips last Sunday. But the story continues tomorrow, and Friday. Yes, Friday. Got to catch up with the dates I scribbled in the margins of the sketchbook, or I'll get VERY confused.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>The likelihood of Rel growing a character is, in fact, pretty good. Achira, on the other paw, now her... Owch. Not a chance.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, not every character <I>does</I>, but glad to hear the former, not to deny that any potentiality has at least two directions...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Hmm... It's pretty hard to convince a homicidal semi-workaholic to take some time off and just <I>rest</I>, isn't it? We'll see if Zvee and 'Rinzo can give him other things to keep his mind on, hmm?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I suspect that suggesting a "game of Ghost" (long car-ride-and-just-keeping-occupied word game) would be less than tactful under the circumstances, double meaning and whatnot. Sorry I mentioned it.<P>Yes, hopefully for once he can be convinced or distracted into letting his system heal a bit...<P>Especially since (not from any lingering memory of the "ghost" dropdown, which I say again I have mostly forgotten) I am a mite nervous that after Nequii has said his fill, or not too long after, another plot high-point is going to rear its head...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Nice plots, yes, but the way I worked them was nothing short of awful. I like a few passages, still, but most of it is crappy. But it's failures that we learn from, so...
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sometimes one can be one's own harshest critic, but that said, since I certainly haven't seen the stories in question I am in no position to give any independent critique of them... and everyone does seem to agree that one can learn much from one's failures. (Some also say that one can learn much not only from one's failures, but one's successes, as well, and my still-on-vacation memory is refusing to divulge to me just who it is I'm paraphrasing who said that their career after a certain point consisted in constant learning from themselves... sigh. Seemed an interesting and thought-provoking motto at the time, too.)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><P>*snicker* There was supposed to be two more strips before the Halloween special, but I stuck the teaser in between, and didn't see that I'd meant to have double strips last Sunday. But the story continues tomorrow, and Friday. Yes, Friday. Got to catch up with the dates I scribbled in the margins of the sketchbook, or I'll get VERY confused.<P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 31, 2001 10:13 am

Well, if you read LaL before CW decided to become a payservice, there were clues... And I won't say more'n that. ^_^<P>Would probably be pretty tactless, yes. (Oooh, Weeendy? You got a minute?) You'll see... Tomorrow, I think. But, yes, just because he -used- to be on his own even among "friends" doesn't mean he has to constantly care for himself when he has real friends around. The catch is getting him to realize that. "If I can move, I move" isn't going to help him heal, at all.
The plot long since went feral, and is happy to inform us all that it'll rear its ugly head wherever it sees unfit. *snicker*<P>Provided you learn Swedish first, I'll gladly let you have a look at the one about Anya. The other one was killed by a friend of my brother's, that deciding deleting my folder on the family computer along with everything in it would be a Very Good Idea.<P>A lot to look forward to, yes, and I'll get to it all when I'm done with this.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:44 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Well, if you read LaL before CW decided to become a payservice, there were clues... And I won't say more'n that. ^_^
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Of course, this is where being - hrm, maybe not quite the world's, but certainly central New York's most clueless and unperceptive reader- puts me at a disadvantage anyway. So I'll hold onto my figurative hat and await develephants, or whatever the expression is.
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Would probably be pretty tactless, yes. (Oooh, Weeendy? You got a minute?)
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And I'll start this round with the letter "I".
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You'll see... Tomorrow, I think. But, yes, just because he -used- to be on his own even among "friends" doesn't mean he has to constantly care for himself when he has real friends around. The catch is getting him to realize that. "If I can move, I move" isn't going to help him heal, at all.
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Early false friends poisoning the mental atmosphere for later real friends? Bad joss, that.
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The plot long since went feral, and is happy to inform us all that it'll rear its ugly head wherever it sees unfit. *snicker*
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Well, yes... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Provided you learn Swedish first, I'll gladly let you have a look at the one about Anya. The other one was killed by a friend of my brother's, that deciding deleting my folder on the family computer along with everything in it would be a Very Good Idea.
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At the moment, my knowledge of Swedish is mostly limited to my guessing between the words of sentences of P2 schedules, and that sort of thing. (Speaking of which, I had best <B>not</B> forget that a piece I do very much love is on tonight (well, afternoon my time) as the last work before the midnight (6pm-ditto) cut-to-overnight-programming... ! ) Not averse to trying to learn, on the other hand. My considerable sympathy about what happened to the other story, and all the other work and everything else besides in your folder at the time... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"><P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:43 am

My reaction to this when I first read it was to bounce up and down in my chair squealing "Elephants". 'Course, that was partially to confuse a certain brother of mine. <P>And my clues are generally quite hard to pick up. When I've pointed every single clue to a subject out and given a few additionall ones, it may still be hard to guess. *snicker* LaL is coming back up, btw. <A HREF="http://www.mythicshaven.com/~mythicsh/lal/lal.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mythicshaven.com/~mythicsh/lal/lal.html</A> so far. Going to move it to <A HREF="http://www.mythicshaven.com/lal/" TARGET=_blank>www.mythicshaven.com/lal/</A> whenever I get the chance. FTP was acting up a bit, see...<P>Early false friends that turned on him and hurt him, yes. And it didn't help that he was very recultant to hurt said friends back. He wouldn't have taken that same treatment from others, at that point.<P>Come to think of it, all the characters are feral, too. At least far as characters go. "Going by your creator's wishes, whazzat, hmm?" <P>P2?
P2 as in that national radio channel over here?
Ooooh...
*snicker* Not that I ever listen to it, but still.<P>Sad thing about the deleting of my files was that when I had supposedly deleted another thing, that had involved a lot less work from my brother's side, I got more of a scolding than he did after deleting my folder for the *second* time. And I hadn't even been home when his file disappeared!<P>But that's what it's like, being elder sibling.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:06 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>My reaction to this when I first read it was to bounce up and down in my chair squealing "Elephants". 'Course, that was partially to confuse a certain brother of mine.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*g*- I had a teacher once in Junior High School (what they call Middle School now, around 7th-8th grade or so) who would always rather say "paragiraffes" if he possibly could, if memory serves.<P>Of course, if I weren't already predisposed to punning from my father's influence among other things that would have just annoyed me and that would have been that *g*<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
And my clues are generally quite hard to pick up. When I've pointed every single clue to a subject out and given a few additionall ones, it may still be hard to guess. *snicker* LaL is coming back up, btw. <A HREF="http://www.mythicshaven.com/~mythicsh/lal/lal.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mythicshaven.com/~mythicsh/lal/lal.html</A> so far. Going to move it to <A HREF="http://www.mythicshaven.com/lal/" TARGET=_blank>www.mythicshaven.com/lal/</A> whenever I get the chance. FTP was acting up a bit, see...
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Ah, good luck with that. Client or server side? Hard to find a good client program nowadays (I know win machines, unlike macs, come with one built-in, though I don't know its specs...)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Early false friends that turned on him and hurt him, yes. And it didn't help that he was very recultant to hurt said friends back. He wouldn't have taken that same treatment from others, at that point.
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Helps makes sense of some later things, I think, yes.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Come to think of it, all the characters are feral, too. At least far as characters go. "Going by your creator's wishes, whazzat, hmm?"
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Which- is as it should be, after a while.
Or so I'm repeatedly told, and believe. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
P2?
P2 as in that national radio channel over here?
Ooooh...
*snicker* Not that I ever listen to it, but still.
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Yes- well, I <I>am</I> obsessed with classical music, one; P2 does stream (broadcasts over the web via realplayer), two; of the various classical and/or mostly-classical stations that do stream they're among the best imhonesto, three... and according to their online schedule, as I said, one of my very favorite pieces of music was on, in a broadcast of a 1998 live concert, at (my) 5:25 pm, last night. I already have it on recording (different performance of course, much older) but it was a true joy to hear it again, played a bit differently (but equally with feeling), to a live audience. Which is I realize far more than you wanted to know, sorry...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Sad thing about the deleting of my files was that when I had supposedly deleted another thing, that had involved a lot less work from my brother's side, I got more of a scolding than he did after deleting my folder for the *second* time. And I hadn't even been home when his file disappeared!<P>But that's what it's like, being elder sibling.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> Not good at all... <P>More elephants... wait, I should be acting in a capacity of peacemaker here- oh heck with...<P>-Eric Schissel<P>
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Postby Schissel on Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:38 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>The likelihood of Rel growing a character is, in fact, pretty good. Achira, on the other paw, now her... Owch. Not a chance.
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As I'd meant to say then but forgot *g* :
Well, asking that a story be primarily character-driven, as my friend-who-I-mentioned-earlier the writer, and later I, do...
does not at all preclude character growth. (What it <I>is</I> meant to preclude more or less, and what the whole blamed idea means if anything, is something else entirely.)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
*snicker* There was supposed to be two more strips before the Halloween special, but I stuck the teaser in between, and didn't see that I'd meant to have double strips last Sunday. But the story continues tomorrow, and Friday. Yes, Friday. Got to catch up with the dates I scribbled in the margins of the sketchbook, or I'll get VERY confused.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Hope there still <B>is</B> a Friday comic (said this 7:30 AM EST-time Friday 20 minutes before this reader has to leave for work <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> ,) but if there isn't, or if it's only there at even', that's as will happen, and good things don't get rushed! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"><P>-Eric Schissel<p>[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-02-2001).]
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:34 am

I've got a teacher who renamed a mathematical rule-thing the nougat rule. Bothers the hell out of a few of my classmates. I don't mind, though. Hmm... Wonder how develephants and paragiraffes look... I like giraffes. ^_^<P>I think it was server-side, but it may be that I'd gotten the ftp address wrong, they changed it without telling me, it seems.<P>*nods* Ought to make sense of a few things. I have a story in the works called 'Wiltering Rose' that should go up on LaL whenever I get around to finishing it. It's VERY disturbing.<P>And yes, they should write themselves. It just gets annoying when you've got everything plotted out and they constantly sidestep the plot.<P>*g* Oh, 'tis quite okay, I see where you're coming from. Which reminds me I should revise and compose my various lists of CDs I want. And add my latest discovery to it.<P>All of it happened a few years ago, mum chewed him out last time he messed with my computer. Stupid jokes he and his friends come up with...<P>*grynn* I misread that the first time you said it, missed the 'as' in 'growing as a character'. 'Growing a character' made sense to me, there's a similar expression in Swedish, sorta like 'developing a conscience', but, well, with a touch of 'maturing' to it. Hard to explain.<P>But stories are meant to be character-driven, which is why I'm redoing the first storyline, and why this one grew so long.<P>There was supposed to be a Friday comic (and likewise, there is a Saturday one coming, if late...), but business I could impossibly have planned for, involving but not limited to an extra round to town to pick up my new headset and my dad cutting himself when helping preparing dinner, so he had to be sent to the hospital. <P>Likely to be extra strips Monday and Wednesday, instead, but I won't promise something I can't keep.<P>After second semester starts, schedule is likely to be I upload as many strips as I can Saturday and Sunday, letting them run daily Sunday and forward until I run out, rinse, repeat. ^_^<P>'Cause I have too many too hard classes then, especially counting the fact I haven't had Physics before.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Sat Nov 03, 2001 4:32 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Well, if you read LaL before CW decided to become a payservice, there were clues... And I won't say more'n that. ^_^
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Speculation, then... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
I think I'm soon going to wish I'd thought to ask (or at least, think hard about) -
clues? clues to <I>what?</I>
and to regret sere that that was all you were going to say (until what happens in the story happens, of course). Ah well! *g*
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who always, ever, aye, always, realizes a week too late that he only thought he was following the filo of a thread...
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sat Nov 03, 2001 11:56 am

*nod* Makes sense, and it's very sad there's no such expression in English, it's usually pretty useful. Mhmm. We'll just have to export it from Sweden. Yup.<P>Bad joke? *innocent whistle* Who? Me?<P>Clues. Clues to 'Rose's childhood. The reason I wasn't going to say had more to do with proper subjects than with secrecy, it's out, but not widely spread, what his childhood was like. If you really want me to tell, I -could- make a new topic and label it accordingly, though.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Sat Nov 03, 2001 12:48 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I've got a teacher who renamed a mathematical rule-thing the nougat rule. Bothers the hell out of a few of my classmates. I don't mind, though. Hmm... Wonder how develephants and paragiraffes look... I like giraffes. ^_^
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<I>Nougat</I> rule... (mind flashing back on a Pratchett novel... come back, mind...)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
I think it was server-side, but it may be that I'd gotten the ftp address wrong, they changed it without telling me, it seems.
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Hrm- know what you mean- if I didn't stay on top of SYSTEM emails it would make adjusting my website rather more difficult at times (but I have a ISP who's very conscientious about informing about each change, on the other hand.)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
*nods* Ought to make sense of a few things. I have a story in the works called 'Wiltering Rose' that should go up on LaL whenever I get around to finishing it. It's VERY disturbing.
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Your filling in 'Rose's background will not I suspect in and of itself <I>decrease</I> his desire to do unfortunate things to his creator.... Still, I do hope to read it.
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And yes, they should write themselves. It just gets annoying when you've got everything plotted out and they constantly sidestep the plot.<P>*g* Oh, 'tis quite okay, I see where you're coming from. Which reminds me I should revise and compose my various lists of CDs I want. And add my latest discovery to it.
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Enjoy <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
All of it happened a few years ago, mum chewed him out last time he messed with my computer. Stupid jokes he and his friends come up with...<P>*grynn* I misread that the first time you said it, missed the 'as' in 'growing as a character'. 'Growing a character' made sense to me, there's a similar expression in Swedish, sorta like 'developing a conscience', but, well, with a touch of 'maturing' to it. Hard to explain.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The expression makes sense though I don't know of a similar expression in English. But no, that's not what I meant *g* (More important and later EDIT: as to what I did mean, though I suppose it's quite obvious- just that the growth could always be in any of a number of directions, depending.
I bought a book once, whose stated purpose was to introduce phrases into the English language for which there was no sufficiently exact equivalent - not for novelty or amusement or "sounds nice at parties" value, but because thinking-shape shapes thinking-content ... the terms and phrases one is drawn to have some influence on (the author hoped expanding, not contracting, influence) what one is inclined to think. Not sure I'm conveying this clearly here... just a train of thought set on my poorly-maintained, hazardous-to-trains tracks by your mention of that "growing a character" expression for which I don't think English has exactly an equivalent but which I do think is thoughtworthy. End EDIT.)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
But stories are meant to be character-driven, which is why I'm redoing the first storyline, and why this one grew so long.<P>There was supposed to be a Friday comic (and likewise, there is a Saturday one coming, if late...), but business I could impossibly have planned for, involving but not limited to an extra round to town to pick up my new headset and my dad cutting himself when helping preparing dinner, so he had to be sent to the hospital.
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Eep and my sympathy (re cutting, of course, not the headset) ...
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Likely to be extra strips Monday and Wednesday, instead, but I won't promise something I can't keep.
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Understood! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
After second semester starts, schedule is likely to be I upload as many strips as I can Saturday and Sunday, letting them run daily Sunday and forward until I run out, rinse, repeat. ^_^
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(ack, bad joke *g*)
Sounds to work.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
'Cause I have too many too hard classes then, especially counting the fact I haven't had Physics before.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I held off on that one until my last year of high school, myself...<P><I>Nougat</I> rule... hrm... (chases mind off stage left)<P>Eric Schissel<P><p>[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-03-2001).]
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Postby Schissel on Sat Nov 03, 2001 12:51 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*nod* Makes sense, and it's very sad there's no such expression in English, it's usually pretty useful. Mhmm. We'll just have to export it from Sweden. Yup.
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Oh-oh, I sense a linguistic invasion in progress *g*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Bad joke? *innocent whistle* Who? Me?<P>Clues. Clues to 'Rose's childhood. The reason I wasn't going to say had more to do with proper subjects than with secrecy, it's out, but not widely spread, what his childhood was like. If you really want me to tell, I -could- make a new topic and label it accordingly, though.<P>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I <B>am</B> rather interested, but I think it can wait until its own proper time.
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 04, 2001 2:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Of course! I am the proverbial guerilla!
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oy vey's mir. That pun took me three hours to get. Not nearly as bad as a novel I was reading for weeks (Foster's <I>Chorus Skating</I>) where I didn't get the fact that the title was a pun for, well... yes... weeks (and given that there were reasons for that word to have associations for me, I felt particularly embarrassed! )... but still... still.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
It doesn't have a proper time, per se. With 'if you REALLY want me to say' I rather meant that it's quite disturbing, and I wasn't sure if you -wanted- to hear it.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrrrmmm.
I don't regard myself, typically, as easily disturbed. On the other hoof, I'm sometimes a good deal surprised by how much it takes to disturb me, what disturbs me, and <B>why</B>. But on consideration...
Sure.<P>-Eric Schissel (who on that other subject of trying to learn a sufficient amount of Swedish - remembering your earlier comment to that effect - notes that if anything his number of jobs <I>may</I> soon (yay? actually, considering the details rather than just the fact itself, yay!) be increasing, but is still seriously considering it...)
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:28 am

Of course! I am the proverbial guerilla!<P>It doesn't have a proper time, per se. With 'if you REALLY want me to say' I rather meant that it's quite disturbing, and I wasn't sure if you -wanted- to hear it.<P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Nov 05, 2001 8:01 am

Well, if it makes you feel better, I only realized it was a pun -after- I wrote it. *snicker* A very nice pun, at that.<P>The topic's there, although the text is a bit sparse at the moment, I was using my computer class for replying to posts and such, since I'd forgotten the papers I was supposed to bring. Going in to edit it and add after six. It's more expensive to be online before six, I'm just kinda checking in... Naughty Alex...<P>*nods* I'm going to record a sound file for an English guy learning Swedish, find something to read to him or something, mostly to hear the flow of the language. Just tell me if you want it, too.<P>
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