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RobboAKAscooby wrote:PETA is a joke, a bunch of self-righteous fascists who spend far more on advertising than they do on bettering the cause of animal welfare. I make my donations to small charities I know are making a difference.
You should read up on exactly what Animal Wefare is, and how it differs from Animal rights, Animal Liberation, and animal abilition. PETA does a great job as an animal welfare company. Animal welfare is all about making little battles in the hope that maybe, just maybe, one day in a billion years from now, animals will be treated as living creatures as apposed to property. so instead of taking on the task of actually making things better, they spin campaigns on things like giving water to a cow on her way to the slaughter house. cause I mean if your sentenced to death in a place that makes a concentration camp look like the a four star hotel, at least you got your thirst quenched!
I think the problem with PITA is a lot of their tactics only really appeal to people who are already on their side, and largely come off as smug/annoying/ridiculous to most other people. I get the idea of using shock to get people to notice and talk about your cause (which they are definitely good at), but I would argue that their tactics do more harm to their cause than good. If someone wants to have an actual conversation about animal rights they get brushed off by the mainstream as "just one of those PITA nuts."

It doesn't matter how legitimate an argument is, if it's being delivered by an annoying asshole, no one is going to listen.

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Phact0rri wrote: You should read up on exactly what Animal Wefare is, and how it differs from Animal rights, Animal Liberation, and animal abilition. PETA does a great job as an animal welfare company. Animal welfare is all about making little battles in the hope that maybe, just maybe, one day in a billion years from now, animals will be treated as living creatures as apposed to property. so instead of taking on the task of actually making things better, they spin campaigns on things like giving water to a cow on her way to the slaughter house. cause I mean if your sentenced to death in a place that makes a concentration camp look like the a four star hotel, at least you got your thirst quenched!
That's all fine. But when we're talking about what Peta is doing wrong and why it has such low ratings (outside of Maxim audience that is), that's practically beside the point.
The problem is something completely different: they are an absolute publicity disaster. The fact that in the era of marketing and branding they apparently don't notice how disastrous their PR are and that they've positively branded themselves as left-wing nutjobs makes me think - well noone's that oblivious.
I can get past bad branding, I'm not a pavlovian dog. But I can't get past not trusting them, not trusting that they won't spend 90% of that money on bad ideas or their own leisure.

I get pissed off by clumsy media manipulation every day: near my house is a genetics clinic, and within days of it's opening, someone glued anti-genetic engineering posters all over neighbourhood (which I can't see as anything else but vandalism, btw). Posters contain a montage of cucumber with lizard legs. Simple manipulation: do they tell me any rational arguement against genetic engineering? Do they approach to me honestly and rely on my common sence? Does a cucumber with lizard legs in any way represent genetical engineering? No, no and no. They just want to create a gag reflex in me every time I think about genetically engineered food, to make in my head a connection between two things that have nothing in common. Why not try to approach me directly and just tell me what they're for? Instead, they're addressing me as if I'm stupid, which just puts me off.

Peta is pretty much all about media manipulation, and like IV said, the kind that only appeals to those who're already in their row, and even then only extreme wings.

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Am I really going to have to be the one to bring up the fact that PeTA, an organization supposedly dedicated to the protection of all animals, systematically kills every pitbull that enters their shelters, is trying to ban the breed, and is commiting what amounts to breed-centric genocide?

Thats ignoring all the other animals they kill because they "cant afford to take care of them", though is seems they CAN afford to rent billboards all over the country. Weiiiiiird.

Peta, where its immoral for me to spend money raising and caring for a dog, but perfectly ok to use that money to tear down an animal's habitat to put up a big poster made out of trees animals lived in, which becomes a giant eyesore where some celebrity with a full-leather-interior luxury car wears no clothes. Logic.
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Okay how did we get from my offhand comment about what CDs I bought to discussing the merit of PETA?

Uh oh, this is all my fault.

Must distract them. But how?

I know...

Look at the kitty...http://youtu.be/ggwKZh6TsNU

And now we're back to what made me happy!
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Killbert-Robby wrote:Thats ignoring all the other animals they kill because they "cant afford to take care of them", though is seems they CAN afford to rent billboards all over the country. Weiiiiiird.

Peta, where its immoral for me to spend money raising and caring for a dog, but perfectly ok to use that money to tear down an animal's habitat to put up a big poster made out of trees animals lived in, which becomes a giant eyesore where some celebrity with a full-leather-interior luxury car wears no clothes. Logic.
I'd assume that their side of the argument would be that going for the "greater good," ie the money spend caring for x dogs could be spend getting their message out which will save 10x dogs.

Not that I agree with that way of thinking, but that'd be my guess as to their motives. At their core I do believe that PETA has the best interests of animals in mind, they are just terrible with their execution. [/no pun intended]

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This news story made me happy: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/wo ... 14448.html

I love when something disastrous about the cult gets leaked. This one's a doozy, and Australia is already after them for human rights violations.
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Laemkral wrote:Australia is already after them for human rights violations.
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I got to eat cheetohs and drink Cherry Coke today! THANK YOU, IMPORT STORE.

They even had dill pickles. ;n; *so...happy*
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Deep fried camembert with cranberry dipping sauce at the local market for 3 Euros.

I cannot explain the orgasmic delight that is deep fried brie/camembert, it must be tasted for oneself in all its indulgent glory. Suffice to say, if I ever plan on killing myself I shall do it by eating deep fried brie/camembert until my arteries clog and my heart stops. And it will be a glorious death.
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I had that today, pan fried at home. My reactions to cheese are more stoic, but it is pretty fuckin delicious. Even better with rowan berries.

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Check Penny Arcade's comic, when it gets loaded. Today I won the Internet.
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Irony, double post = I fail the Internet.
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Laemkral wrote:Check Penny Arcade's comic, when it gets loaded. Today I won the Internet.
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OH man, have you guys ever tried frying thin-sliced provolone cheese?

Back when I was vegetarian we'd use it as a bacon substitute and throw it on big crusty sub rolls with artichoke hearts and pesto mayonnaise and cherry tomatoes. Talk about orgasmic...

But yeah, you just throw a slice of provolone in a nonstick pan, no oil or anything, and it eventually bubbles and gets nice and golden-brown and crispy...turns into a crunchy disc of orgasmic delight. Try it! And it's actually less fatty than eating straight provolone because a lot of the oil cooks out of the cheese proper. :D
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Laemkral wrote:Check Penny Arcade's comic, when it gets loaded. Today I won the Internet.
That is fairly awesome right there. I especially like the way the lines draw the eye right to your crotch.

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IVstudios wrote:
Laemkral wrote:Check Penny Arcade's comic, when it gets loaded. Today I won the Internet.
That is fairly awesome right there. I especially like the way the lines draw the eye right to your crotch.
The responses on their forums indicate I am allowed to wear a giant codpiece should I ever cosplay as myself. Which I now REALLY want to do.
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BrownEyedCat wrote:
Laemkral wrote:Check Penny Arcade's comic, when it gets loaded. Today I won the Internet.
HIGH FIVE!
HIGH TEN! :D :D
You're just jealous because you can't get away with speaking in the third person...

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THAT'S AWESOME!!
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VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:THAT'S AWESOME!!
What cuddly said! Congrats, man!
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