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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby ApparentlyTsundere on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:57 pm

*back on topic*

i agree with niko on the updating scedual. it tends to eat away at more productive matters.
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby Dreamaniaccomic on Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:32 am

Right! Time to kick into high gear with this thing. Can't watch myself falter and drop this project like the many others before it. (Rest in peace, Pro Trainer.) Going to start answering questions and responding to posts here, as well as posting about my progress and thoughts.
So, to start, lets go with Nico's suggestion.

niko2pico wrote:To keep this post on topic Jake should avoid having an update schedule cause that just causes stress and rushes him


You're correct, Nico. Deadlines of any sort can cause stress and rush work.
Of course, that's when you put them off and don't prepare for them. I want to take a much more responsible approach to the comic; if it's going to be my career, I have to treat it as such at least a little bit. I've settled on 3 days a week for the updating schedule; it was what I went with when I first started the comic, and I've learned enough to keep up the quality (hopefully!). Of course, I also plan to create a massive initial buffer for the comic (50 comics, specifically.) My goal is to keep that buffer up for one whole year without eating through it, and then I may let myself relax a bit. Humor is serious business, people :wink: .

niko2pico wrote:He should also try his hand at animating I recommend this program It's called pencil, remarkably spartan program.


Maybe. I'm a bit occupied at the moment with everything else, but I'll try it out eventually.

Will post again soon.
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby niko2pico on Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:23 pm

Dreamaniaccomic wrote:Right! Time to kick into high gear with this thing. Can't watch myself falter and drop this project like the many others before it. (Rest in peace, Pro Trainer.) Going to start answering questions and responding to posts here, as well as posting about my progress and thoughts.
So, to start, lets go with Nico's suggestion.

niko2pico wrote:To keep this post on topic Jake should avoid having an update schedule cause that just causes stress and rushes him


You're correct, Nico. Deadlines of any sort can cause stress and rush work.
Of course, that's when you put them off and don't prepare for them. I want to take a much more responsible approach to the comic; if it's going to be my career, I have to treat it as such at least a little bit. I've settled on 3 days a week for the updating schedule; it was what I went with when I first started the comic, and I've learned enough to keep up the quality (hopefully!). Of course, I also plan to create a massive initial buffer for the comic (50 comics, specifically.) My goal is to keep that buffer up for one whole year without eating through it, and then I may let myself relax a bit. Humor is serious business, people :wink: .

niko2pico wrote:He should also try his hand at animating I recommend this program It's called pencil, remarkably spartan program.


Maybe. I'm a bit occupied at the moment with everything else, but I'll try it out eventually.

Will post again soon.


Pro Trainer sucked and the fact that you killed it is a testament to your common sense. (Sorry just saying what I think there, if you want to take this any further pm me). Use it as an example of all the things wrong with your writing style

3 posts a week is very a bit stupid foolish ridiculous optimistic. Aim for it but just remember history has shown that you generally can't balance a grandiose update schedule with school.

run jokes past us for the love of god. If you are writing for yourself good luck with being a comic artist professional, if you are writing for your friends see previous statement, or try a new type of humor, if you are writing to try to get a fanbase... test your jokes.

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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby ApparentlyTsundere on Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:02 am

Kinda going off of what niko said, write jokes because they're funny. And convey them to a larger audience than our group. Also, as just a bit of advice, as I have attempted (and failed at) a simmilar venture such as this in the past, I have noticed that perfection is your greatest enemy. I spent forever trying to make things look right and eventually that was my own undoing. Stylistic perfection comes after it's initial application, don't not submit anything because it looks 'off'. I dunno if you have issues with this in particular but ive struggled with it since I started drawing.
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby niko2pico on Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:35 pm

perfection is the enemy of good enough.
A masterpiece should be perfection
A comic should be good enough
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby VonGentlemen on Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:26 pm

Jake, I am so disappointed. You seem to still have the idea that using tropes to write is okay while it would turn out that they are indeed a venom that is poisoning your work. You are not doing any justice to your comic at all with this mediocre writing. The way one could see it is that you are hanging onto the edge of a cliff right now, and you keep slipping, chip by chip with every attempt to improve writing using ineffectual means.

I know that you are capable of creating much more than this sorry jam of plot line convergence. Please, don't try to fix the soul of your comic using tropes, doing such is like buying lumber for the sake of burning a bridge. It is obvious that using pre-written ideas is the main slayer of your originality.

Without focusing on relationship between characters, the overall quality of the setting is very, very low, irregardless of however normally complex a character may be. If you only focus on the characters, instead of growth, it leads to a sorry, dizzy mess that tends to lose whatever charm it might have had in the first place.

Relating, I can see why Niko is so full of rage.
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby XIVcaliber on Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:22 pm

...Andre, I want your babies.

Jake, he's right. Characterization is a key element here, and though I've seen those designs for the new characterizations, you tend to moralize things on a black and white basis, making Niko the total jerkass when we all know he is that he provides excellent advice when it's truly needed. Also, quit shipping Shelby and I, it's annoying.
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Re: The Dreamaniac (reboot) Project

Postby niko2pico on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:01 pm

XIVcaliber wrote: Also, quit shipping Shelby and I, it's annoying.


Neverevereverever ship friends in your fiction. That is a rule of not being a complete douche and a tool. In fact until you apologize to Elliot and Shelby for that you are currently the biggest douche tool in our group without argument.
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