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[Phact0rri]

*caff* wolfsheim *caff caff* actually Peter Heppner's new record is 80% in german, which is why I had to import it, an pay a fortune for it *pouts*

Actually I don't know about judging music base off the language, or nationality. And I don't know if anyone's noticed the slow drive away from non-english lyrics. I mean even And One's latest album is mostly in english. And boy does it suck. Go back to the german k? thnx!

Speaking of French punk rawk... man I haven't heard any in foe-ever. I use to love Ludwig 88, The Burning Heads, and the hardcore band Noxious Enjoyment. The latter I saw play in the mid 90's with Against all Authority... good times.

[Legion]

Well, of course, you don't proclaim a song to be better or worse simply based on what country it's from or what language it's in. I'm not asking purely so I can be a snob and say 'Look, I listen to non-English music, I'm more sophisticated than you'. That'd just be stupid. (Though it is tempting when my flat's soundtrack is an endless loop of Morrissey and Alkaline Trio). I'm just wanting to know if I've missed anything good, since non-English music doesn't really feature in the mainstream music scene in Blighty.

[Phact0rri]

well for me I tend to gravitate towards the more electropop/industrial-isque types of stuff, so I hear a lot of international stuff. Of course I also listen to opera so I guess that goes without saying. but in terms of more indie kinda stuff I'm sure mcduffies is more knowledable with the outside of the UK and America stuff.

Its not so much being elitist to listen to non-english bands, the reason I said "hard to base off of" is from a recommending point of view its a bit hard to name drop, when you may not be into that sort of music.

Morrissey ya don't say? Have you heard Years of Refusal? I liked it more than I thought I would (Arms around paris single had me dreading it), but the rest of the record is really good. well better than Ringleader but that isn't saying much. *s*

[Legion]

I've heard Years of Refusal in passing many times, but I've never sat down to listen to it. It just seems fairly unremarkable to me, though that might just be the jaded once-teenage-Morrissey-fan in me talking. All I can say about it from what I've heard is that it sounds very... Morrissey. There's no new sounds or themes to it, it just sounded like Ringleader Mk. II. But, as I say, I feel I'm probably being a bit unfair since I've not yet sat down to listen to it properly yet.
I still like his Smiths stuff, and a lot of his solo work, but his newer albums seem a bit dead to me. That's not to say there aren't some good tracks on them - Last of the Gang's still one of my favorites, and even Tormentors had some I liked. I think I might just have outgrown Morrissey a bit, Rubber Rings-style. I've moved back to being an Eels person more than a Morrissey person.

[McDuffies]

I never heard thier industrial period, but I suppose its understandable.

I was thinking of that "Rock steady" album, for the lack of better word to describe, what with those thick synths and all.

But now you got me interested, and filled with ska nostalgia. Course were the same age,so I guess it makes sense that two guys who listen to indie, would have fallen into similar music types as kids.

Not neccesarily, it was the time of isolation for us, and before internet, so it was difficult to get even more popular stuff, and nearly impossible to hear them on tv. I was mostly listening to grunge and alternative rock since they were huge and shops were getting their discs even in provintial cities like mine. Luckily punk was always big deal in these parts.

Also while bouncing around Youtube listening to them, I managed to find a French punk song about Asterix, so.... score? I think?

Heh heh.

Speaking of French punk rawk... man I haven't heard any in foe-ever. I use to love Ludwig 88, The Burning Heads, and the hardcore band Noxious Enjoyment. The latter I saw play in the mid 90's with Against all Authority... good times.

French always sounds very odd set to rock music... I mean for certain uses like Air it sounds good, but punk rock or rap sound very unapealing... like how German is great for punk or industrial, but try to sing a ballad in german, it will still sound like punk or industrial. Discriminating it is, but pop-rock was tailored on English language.

[McDuffies]

I listen to a lot of music from ex-Yugoslavian countries. Yugoslavia has always had a rich pop-rock scene, during the war it halted for several years, but then got better. Here are some of my favourite bands:

-Block Out - doing heavy, grunge-like stuff. Excellent lyrics, their vocalist is making these cool animations in videos: 1 2 3 4

-Darkwood Dub - danceable blend of electronica and guitar, Phact might like. They're maybe more accessible to non-Serbian speakers since lyrics don't play such large role: 1 2 3 4

-Orthodox Celts - Pogues knock-offs, but still excellent. Though they sing in English, they're one of more important and popular bands on rock scene. 1 2 3

-Kristali - dream pop that is very dear to my heart. Too bad they don't have their videos. 1 2

-Jarboli - kind of disharmonic, whacked-out pop. 1 2

-Rambo Amadeus - Montenegrian musician residing in Belgrade, he's a staple of the scene, probably the most reckognizable musician. He plays something of jazz-rock with a bit of electronica on the side, over which he raps excellent, dark-humor and ironic stuff. His shows are a delight because they're highly improvisational and he'll often completely change lyrics. Though music is very good, it's not complete impression if you don't understand lyrics. 1 2 3 4 (highly reccomended)

-Darko Rundek - Croatian singer who resides in France, makes world music with balkanian and French influences. 1 2 3

-Pips Chips and Video Clips - one of imo best Croatian bands in last decade or few. 1 2 3

-Hladno Pivo - Croatian Punkers, old school 1

-Jinx, rather good pop. 1 2

-Chinch - the most unnepreciated band ever, I think they're defunct now because of lack of reckognition, and their poetry was pure work of genius. Still too subversive and dark humour for national tv. 1 2

-Vroom - kind of... rave, I think. There's definitely some breakbeat and dub in there. Still they haven't released anything new for years. 1 2 3

-Ognjen i Prijatelji - one of a very few bands that integrates our folk music with popular well - as oposed to thousands who are doing it awfully. 1

-Letu Stuke - great Bosnian pop 1 2 3 4

-Direktori - a bit of ska-punk from 1992 for Phact: 1

-Marchello - rap has nasty heritage in these parts of being an integral part of dreaded turbo-folk, but some folks are slaving to turn that reputation over, and this is as good as it gets. 1 2

-Laka - a song that you might know from the last Eurosong... but he's nothing special except this one song. 1

-I try to follow newest bands too... things that caught my attention include Pero Defformero (combination of progressive metal and worst, deepest gutter folk), Krsh, Elektro-Lasta, Radost, Vrelo...

As far as I know, every country around has a decent rock scene. I don't follow those that aren't in our language, but I've heard things like Polish rap, Finnish rock or Russian pop... and of course, HC punk from nearly every country, since that kind of music seems to propagate the best through alternative channels.

[Yeahduff]

And for the record, even I don't hate No Doubt.

suppose I get an elitist indie point for not being able to stomach no doubt. bwahahaha!

Eeeh, they're no less awful than dreaded Nickelback, that's sure.

Just who the hell do you think you are?

Andre gets a lot of the attention in OutKast, and deservedly so, but Big Boi is no weak link. With all the weird bullshit Dre's doing, Big Boi never feels out of place. They really were excellent foils for each other, here's hoping they get back to basics soon.

Non-English bands...

My undying love for Deerhoof is well documented in this thread. Lead singer is from Tokyo and sings mostly in Japanese. Her voice is an acquired taste but is oh so good over the catchy, heavy, and chaotic brand of rock she and the American blokes bring.

I liked the Plastiscines debut record. Four French chicks playing power pop, hard to go wrong. Their English songs aren't as strong.

Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her are one of my favorites. Imagine if PJ Harvey were Japanese and smiled once in a while. Good luck finding one of their records in the states, though.

[Risky]

Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her are one of my favorites. Imagine if PJ Harvey were Japanese and smiled once in a while. Good luck finding one of their records in the states, though.

I like them, but then I like a lot of 90s stuff. I also like French 'ip'op, if MC Solaar is any indication.

This is me recommending MC Solaar. He sings hip hop, in French, some of it pretty cerebral stuff if you are into that kind of thing. Deja vu... did I recommend him here before?

(also O-zone had at least one good single)

[KWill]

*caff* wolfsheim *caff caff* actually Peter Heppner's new record is 80% in german, which is why I had to import it, an pay a fortune for it *pouts*

Actually I don't know about judging music base off the language, or nationality. And I don't know if anyone's noticed the slow drive away from non-english lyrics. I mean even And One's latest album is mostly in english. And boy does it suck. Go back to the german k? thnx!

Speaking of French punk rawk... man I haven't heard any in foe-ever. I use to love Ludwig 88, The Burning Heads, and the hardcore band Noxious Enjoyment. The latter I saw play in the mid 90's with Against all Authority... good times.

Eh? This is news to me...

[McDuffies]

With greated possibility of breaking into international market than, say, etn years ago, more local bands indeed decide to write lyrics in English.

[Phact0rri]

*caff* wolfsheim *caff caff* actually Peter Heppner's new record is 80% in german, which is why I had to import it, an pay a fortune for it *pouts*

Actually I don't know about judging music base off the language, or nationality. And I don't know if anyone's noticed the slow drive away from non-english lyrics. I mean even And One's latest album is mostly in english. And boy does it suck. Go back to the german k? thnx!

Speaking of French punk rawk... man I haven't heard any in foe-ever. I use to love Ludwig 88, The Burning Heads, and the hardcore band Noxious Enjoyment. The latter I saw play in the mid 90's with Against all Authority... good times.

Eh? This is news to me...

which bit? the import or the english lyrics? I thought about asking you up on the german export... but wasn't really sure how easy it was to find it at a store or what ever.

BTW MCD... I have been exposed to Darkwood Dub. They are quite good.

[McDuffies]

Yeah, they were one of my favourites in high school and first years on university. Where'd you hear of them anyways?
(Hopefully my little presentation was interesting)

[Phact0rri]

I want to go through more of those bands MCD, would have done it yesterday but time was tight.

As to the exposure, a friend on another forum showed em to me a few years ago.

[Levi-chan]

PA-RA-CHUTE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbfLycuhhjI

[KWill]

which bit? the import or the english lyrics? I thought about asking you up on the german export... but wasn't really sure how easy it was to find it at a store or what ever.

BTW MCD... I have been exposed to Darkwood Dub. They are quite good.

English lyrics. I'd say there's been a drive in favor of German lyrics from what I see and hear.

[Prettysenshi]

Stupid question, but its for the older folks on the board.

Is "Like a Prayer" by Madonna about sex? O_o My boss was listening to it and I was like...I don't think she's actually talking about praying to God. What a slutty song hahaha.

[Yeahduff]

Going over the lyrics in my head, going with definitely.

An argument can be made that it's more an exploration of the spirituality of sex, or sex as religious experience. These are the buttons Madonna pushes.

[Risky]

Stupid question, but its for the older folks on the board.

Is "Like a Prayer" by Madonna about sex? O_o My boss was listening to it and I was like...I don't think she's actually talking about praying to God. What a slutty song hahaha.

There was a comedy routine once with the lyrics "I'm down on my knees because I like it there" complete with pelvic thrusts. I think the singer in question agrees with your interpretation... I think it was that "history of dance" guy.

[Yeahduff]

Trying to tell me Keffria hasn't heard the new Sunset Rubdown song?

[Prettysenshi]

Stupid question, but its for the older folks on the board.

Is "Like a Prayer" by Madonna about sex? O_o My boss was listening to it and I was like...I don't think she's actually talking about praying to God. What a slutty song hahaha.

There was a comedy routine once with the lyrics "I'm down on my knees because I like it there" complete with pelvic thrusts. I think the singer in question agrees with your interpretation... I think it was that "history of dance" guy.

Sounds like a Weird Al Yankovich? parody.

Also, I think 80s Madonna was better than 90s Madonna and way better than 00's Madonna by far.