another state of the music industry article

[McDuffies]

That being said, there are some cool blends that are doing some interesting things. What I find most interesting is currently the amount of bands that are taking old rock, and Country blends as a popular source of inspiration, all this new psychobilly, and straight up jazz fusion rock is amazing.

I feel that rock revival and indy pop are slowly spending out, market is already saturated with many bands that sound all alike. That might mean that we can watch out for the next big thing.
I like Beirut a lot right now, seems enough out of the synch with the rest of scene. It smells of "world music revival", which I wouldn't mind. I have a privilege of following new Serbian scene too, and seeing great new wave of bands breaking through recently.

Well we can look past the hardline bands. I think that the northern parts of Europe have always been where the hardline comes from. They reinvented metal, and practically birthed industrial from the hip-hop of the UK and france. But like you said there have been some amazing lo-fi bands, and pop bands coming out that have been mainly over looked. Aside from some of the disco stuff of the 70's and 80's. I have a dream that someday Joachim Witt and Leonard Cohen will do a project. throw in a little tom waits... and I think that it would be the best thing ever. ^_^

Sounds interesting.
The funniest thing ever, was a Japanese hc metal band that sung in German, because they claimed that German is the best language for metal.

Of course for many of the female pop singers, they come from the land of acopella and they don't want to take away from the voice. They are signed on because of the voice. Just like actors who have that "face" time, the voice of the singers are supposed to be centered. Least as far as I know this is how it works. Personally i wish the producers would wise up and throw in some great synth, and get some top performers up there.

Eh, perhaps, if they were all her voices, but I smell of a bunch of probessional studio singers instead. Anyways, I'd give her some credit if she was capable of performing a good show, but according to her concert in Serbia, she was bland and unenergetic (yet "professional") and the sung something under an hour, which to my standards is too short for a solo concert.

I I mean look at Timberlakes newest. its rocking the charts, and the synth and production of that album is top notch. I don't care for his voice very much but I've listened to a few tracks repeatedly cause the arrangements are amazing.

*shrug* didn't care much to look at it. Thought it was too kitchy, with all kinds of styles thrown together without much cohesion, so I didn't even get to look at arrangements.

[Phact0rri]

I feel that rock revival and indy pop are slowly spending out, market is already saturated with many bands that sound all alike. That might mean that we can watch out for the next big thing.
I like Beirut a lot right now, seems enough out of the synch with the rest of scene. It smells of "world music revival", which I wouldn't mind. I have a privilege of following new Serbian scene too, and seeing great new wave of bands breaking through recently.

Well its wait and see. I feel were on a crest of something new as well. course I been feeling that way for a few years. I wish I could just put my finger on it. It'll come... I hope.

Sounds interesting.
The funniest thing ever, was a Japanese hc metal band that sung in German, because they claimed that German is the best language for metal.

ha ha! I love it!

Eh, perhaps, if they were all her voices, but I smell of a bunch of probessional studio singers instead. Anyways, I'd give her some credit if she was capable of performing a good show, but according to her concert in Serbia, she was bland and unenergetic (yet "professional") and the sung something under an hour, which to my standards is too short for a solo concert.

Shows anymore seem to be getting shorter and shorter. I love to be surprised by a performer who has a good hour and half or two hour show. but it doesn't happen that often anymore. Morrissey when he played here, went over an hour and a half, plus a thirty minute opening act. it was the longest show I'd seen in some time.

[McDuffies]

Shows anymore seem to be getting shorter and shorter. I love to be surprised by a performer who has a good hour and half or two hour show. but it doesn't happen that often anymore. Morrissey when he played here, went over an hour and a half, plus a thirty minute opening act. it was the longest show I'd seen in some time.

There are very few shows I've been to that lasted under an hour, even festival performances - actually, the only two stars that visited Serbia and played about an hour or less that I know of, were said Rihanna and 50c. Otherwise, hour and 20min is a minimum that audience here expects.
Actually, the audience is always very energetic here, we'll always try to squeeze out an extre biss out of the group, and some of them react to that pretty well, dragging the performance even to two hours - usually surprised that there's so much people in Serbia listening to them.
You can see how live shows can be important, how a minor group like Kosheen has been popular for some time after giving an excellent show. And on the other side, I've seen a backlash against RHCP after they gave a pretty crappy show, I know a lot of people who stopped listening to them right there. Of course, that was just the last drop, alongside declining quality of their music, or perception of them as spoiled stars - which they pretty much confirmed with that show.

[Killbert-Robby]

I went to see a band I really liked, and they only did like 4 songs. It was AWESOME, dont get me wrong, but like Phact said, an hour woulda been nice. They DO have enough music to do so. It wasnt that they had to get off stage for the main act or anything, they were just hushed off and then the bar was quiet for another hour or so. Considering 99% of the crowd was dressed as pirates and here to see *them*, not whoever the hell it was they had playing after, they shoulda been allowed to go on a bit.

Luckily, all 4 songs were my favorites, so in the end, s'all good

[Boozeathon4billion]

Most of the bands I see live do two hour sets if they are the headlining act. Alkaline Trio did their entire "Goddamnit" cd last time I saw them, and then a bunch of other stuff. Along with a 30minute encore. That was one of the best shows I've seen recently, but I have seen some shows that have had 4 band and lasted 2 hours (which pissed me off b/c it was $30 for the ticket).

I think a lot of bands are just in it for the wrong reasons. They do it for money, fame, sex, drugs... and not just because they love writing, performing, and just being involved in music. It can be covered up when released on cds but it can't be hidden when you see them live.

[BrownEyedCat]

I went to see a band I liked, and they did practically their entire album, plus a few songs from their previous album. Plus an opening act.

I didn't think to time it. I don't go to see bands very often.

[Phact0rri]

well it depends on the band, but most of the shows I've seen this past year (2007) and I saw like twelve shows (I didn't get out that much) most of the shows clocked in under two hours. There were a few exceptions like the reverend/murder by death/jaxx show was a little longer, as Murder by death played about an hour themselves (and I highly recommend if you like rockabilly type stuff)

And yes, there are bands that do play longer-- but I didn't see very many of them this year.

Alkaline Trio did their entire "Goddamnit" cd last time I saw them, and then a bunch of other stuff. Along with a 30minute encore. That was one of the best shows I've seen recently, but I have seen some shows that have had 4 band and lasted 2 hours (which pissed me off b/c it was $30 for the ticket).

When I saw Alkaline Trio who were double billing with Hotwater music with Boysets fire (who didn't end up playing as they were in a plane crash coming into Atlanta) in 03 or 04... they had maybe an hour set. Course this was back when they were on Epitaph.

Course this another thing I hate, since were onto live shows now. When bands play thier whole new cd. Now if its a band whose done one or two albums thats okay. But when its someone like Alkaline trio with a ton of albums (course the hotwater/AT split is neat... if you like either of these bands look for it) I hate when I don't get at least four or five classic songs thrown into the mix. Not saying AT did just that-- but its bloody annoying when I'm hoping to hear an old favourite and everything is the new stuff.

I think a lot of bands are just in it for the wrong reasons. They do it for money, fame, sex, drugs... and not just because they love writing, performing, and just being involved in music. It can be covered up when released on cds but it can't be hidden when you see them live.

well you obviously need to see Alestorm cause they are totally sober when they get on stage!

*dux*

really I never seen them play I just like the name of the band.

[McDuffies]

I've rarely been to a show where main act plays over two hours, and it's usually underground bands, not the big stars. It is quite a lot to ask of a band, true.

[Rkolter]

I'm happy with a band playing 90 minutes or so. At the two hour mark, I start thinking "God I have to pee, why won't they take a 10 minute break?!"

But a band that quit out after four songs? I'd be angry at that. That's appalling. I'd be miffed at anything under an hour, really.

[Phact0rri]

I've rarely been to a show where main act plays over two hours, and it's usually underground bands, not the big stars. It is quite a lot to ask of a band, true.

well truthfully, larger more elaborate bands will divide longer sets into two. And I don't mind that. When I saw Rufus Wainwright play he did that. course he changed outfits a lot to. And I agree a band playing two hours is a lot. personally I'm happy if they are playing until they are just two tired to go on. I feel that when your gleaming with sweat and loosing your breath, that you've done your best.. thank you.

The underground bands mostly local and regional bands (we don't have enough of a base for popular indie bands in my area) either open up for someone, or we get a few on a bill that equates to a two hour event. about thirty minutes set or so. But I don't knock that. I expect bands playing in a bar in a club with a five dollar cover to play what they can seven or eight songs is fine.

[Boozeathon4billion]

I was counting the 30 minute encore as part of the 2 hours. And they had a slight intermission when changing up instruments and stuff when they did a few acoustic songs. Wanted to clear that up real quick.

But yeah, I haven't been to a concert in a while now. I've seen too many shows that were lackluster that cost too much. So I only go to those I really care about these days. Especially since I've been pressed for time.

[Phact0rri]

I'm happy with a band playing 90 minutes or so. At the two hour mark, I start thinking "God I have to pee, why won't they take a 10 minute break?!"

oh I use the bathroom if I have to. ha ha, I remember going to some show... I think it was maybe a Discount show (which is the band not the price), and I totally got called out on leaving after the first song. when I came back, she was all like "okay your back so can we continue now".

and they had played two songs cause I heard them through the walls!

[McDuffies]

I just wait for one of songs I like less to go to bathroom... or get a beer, whatever I want.

[Packrat]

yah. suse 10.3 here.

what i like about orr files files is that it repairs damaged cd's.

being an oldie, i remember the different formats... and stopped switching about combined vis-audo cds.

ripping with orr REPAIRS skips in my older cd's thou.

no, I don't download. It was way too much like your first website, all collections of ripped materials.

is there a cross-over thread anywhere here? writers, artists. musicians, ? one man show type things?

hey, that'd be nifty to google on youtube. i'm area163 there. think I'll go look.

packrat

[Hotep]

I listen to both mp3s and old music formats. The portability of mp3s can't be beaten, because the songs don't skip if you drive over a bump in the road or something, but at home you can go for the quality stuff because it won't get damaged. I wish I knew what ogg and flac were because they sound like a good idea... I just don't understand thing one about file types and things like that. Can anyone give me a quick explanation?

As for what era or genre of music I like, I'm really not picky. 90s is at the top of the list, but I'll listen to just about anything. Except country. Very few country songs catch my interest.

[Yeahduff]

There's an active music thread right now, no reason to bump this thing.

[TheSuburbanLetdown]

There's an active music thread right now, no reason to bump this thing.

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