The Neko wrote:
Kisai wrote:There are no taboo topics on comicgenesis…
We can do that by not ripping into successful webcomics not hosted here.
Did I say I was going to ban and lock the topic? Did I say it wasn't allowed? The intent there is not to start threads with the sole purpose of rounding up a posse of people to back up your opinion when almost nobody here said they even read the entire thing. That would be better served on Bill's mailing list.
Should this thread exist then? Yes, I think so. If people genuinely dislike a prominent webcomic, there's a distinct benefit gained from pooling the differing insights and observations that leads to a better understanding of the comic and comics in general as well, and this directly relates to what I understand to be at least one particular function of these forums as a whole, which is to benefit webcomic creators by allowing them to better understand comics via communication amongst themselves.
Let's go back to the beginning:
"Y'know, I just killed the Bookmark for Kevin and Kell tonight. It wasn't because of the art, or the topic, or any of the usual stuff.
It's because every single animal in Bill Holbrook's Domain universe is self-aware, as fully conscious as a human being would be.
And I just watched Rudy deliberately kill one of them in order to provide the buzzards with a 'Thanksgiving' feast.
As for the matter at hand, I do read K&K occasionally, and is aware of the cannibalism issue you point out, I just choose to ignore it, because in my opinion, Holbrook has created a world were it fits nicely together that such ARE things, and he tactically do not touches the subjects a more deepgoing analysis would provide.
original poster, minus the nazi "if you don't like it don't read this thread" comment response to the second poster:
Doesn't work in the world I live in. We're supposed to care about the main characters and wring our hands along with the author when (horrors!) 'species-ism' rears its ugly head. Never mind that there ARE no separate species when they all can interbreed! No, it's that Bill wants to eat his cake and have it, too. We must care about his main characters, but ignore the fact that the deer talk, the insects talk; in fact, every creature is rational. And there is nothing but regret when murder occurs, if even that. Most of it is played off for laughs.
I read it. I like it. I think it's too wordy, every joke has to be explained because of how the world is set up, but I never put too much thought into the whole rampant murder aspect. I think that's its appeal.
All I know is I don't care about the comic. I attempted to read it a while back for about maybe long enough to see the child born but after that I dropped the comic cold turkey. Hell, I didn't even know the comic existed until it was brought up in that thread that McDuffies linked.
I guess you've got a point. The thing that got me riled was, here is this supposedly mainstream furry comic, popular with da masses (and, up until a month ago, me) and suddenly it's like everything comes into focus and the image just totally creeps me the hell out. Just from that one strip.
And no one notices! Spectacular thing going on here, subversive as hell, and it slides right past most folks. And when you bring it up, far from getting ' hey, yeah', you get folks scratching their heads or shrugging. Which is why I made the comment about most people being below, not above, such things.
Ahhh, I'm beating it to death. They went over it more thoroughly in the other thread, bless 'em. I didn't know other folks had stumbled across the creepiness until I came here.
Here the original poster made their point, they disagree with it from a moral stance. Every comment in between these were attacks directed at the original poster, or the second poster, followed by "WE CAN'T HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION" comments.
I then say lets look the moral aspect of separating fiction from reality, more points to look at the moral aspect. The original poster brought up a moral point why he didn't want to read it anymore, so it's valid.
If you have nothing to add to the debate, and are unable to discern the sarcasm from the seriousness, stop posting to the thread about OMG this discussion is too serious.
Moderator, please split out the off-topic (about trolling or this discussion is too serious) posts from this thread if it derails further and make that it's own thread.