Okay... America isn't being original.

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Postby DancingChaos on Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:38 pm

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Postby Risky on Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:09 pm

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Postby Checking on Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:45 am

Slight necromancy, but the forum is dead anyway...

Teen Titans originally aired in Korea. Any info about it being a US cartoon is sheer bullshit. I have the original episodes, so. :/ I'm trying to find a reputable site link, since I doubt anyone will take my word with Wikipedia...
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Postby Slacks on Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:23 am

The biggest problem I find with it is that they are basically saying other countries are better. Most kids will probably think they are American at first but once they learn they are Japanese they think japan is a lot better. Some even believe stuff like getting super powers or ninjas attacking is an everyday occurrence there. It's not the style that makes me like Anime, although it is a good style, it's the stories and the way they handle the action.
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Postby Brockway on Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:20 am

I'll have you know I've lived in Japan for the past year, and have gained and lost superpowers on 3 separate occasions. They came in handy with all the random ninja and yakuza attacks. Also, PS3's are $250 if you buy yahoo internet at the same time.
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Postby Tentoumushi on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:01 am

Um your forgetting that modern anime comes from a style taken from American animation (Walt Disney and Warner Brothers being the main inspiration for eastern cartoonists.) So if anything we're just stealing back something that was already stolen from us in the first place. Anime is no more original than western cartoons.
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Postby Risky on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:07 am

Tentoumushi wrote:Um your forgetting that modern anime comes from a style taken from American animation (Walt Disney and Warner Brothers being the main inspiration for eastern cartoonists.) So if anything we're just stealing back something that was already stolen from us in the first place. Anime is no more original than western cartoons.
Define "forgetting", that's already been said at least twice in this thread. Sput and MixedMyth both mentioned it, for example. Just saying.
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Postby Tentoumushi on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:09 am

Risky wrote:
Tentoumushi wrote:Um your forgetting that modern anime comes from a style taken from American animation (Walt Disney and Warner Brothers being the main inspiration for eastern cartoonists.) So if anything we're just stealing back something that was already stolen from us in the first place. Anime is no more original than western cartoons.
Define "forgetting", that's already been said at least twice in this thread. Sput and MixedMyth both mentioned it, for example. Just saying.


Sorry about that, was more replying to the first post than the ones after it. My bad, should have read more carefully.
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Postby Risky on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:34 am

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Postby Wendybird on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:32 pm

Prettysenshi wrote:Invader Zim would be an expection to that rule, along with Avatar: The Last Airbender. Zim was gritty, but hilarious. Avatar is like anime, but not annoying. So, while there are expections, it's not enough to help the situation overall.


I agree with this. However, my attitude is that as long as there are good things like Avatar coming out of the fusion, I'm happy.

Also, I think most American cartoons at any given time are dumb, but we only remember the exceptions. In my childhood there were almost as many cartoons on TV that I avoided as there are now. Most of the increase is my tastes becoming more discerning, but also there are just more cartoons now because it's something that adults look for too. Apologies to anyone who enjoyed Care Bears or Ren & Stimpy, but cartoons have been making me ill for years and years. And does anyone remember the Angry Beavers? May not this generation of bad cartoons pass away as well?
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Re: Okay... America isn't being original.

Postby Dreamaniaccomic on Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:26 pm

Nothing is original.
It's logical: anime/manga are becoming more popular, thus the various powers start moving towards that sort of look/feel in an attempt to cash in on that popularity.
That said, I miss bugs bunny. :( Is the age of falling anvils and momentary defiance of gravity behind us entirely?
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Re: Okay... America isn't being original.

Postby Killbert-Robby on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:16 pm

DancingChaos wrote:If this topic was already mentioned, I'm sorry.

Have you noticed???!!! America is stealing anime! Cartoons are gradually getting more and more sweatdrops!!! And then cartoons are getting those big eyes... The worst is 'totally spies'... It's so obvious.


Totally Spies is *French*
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Postby Otama Sanshiro on Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:05 pm

Tentoumushi wrote:Um your forgetting that modern anime comes from a style taken from American animation (Walt Disney and Warner Brothers being the main inspiration for eastern cartoonists.) So if anything we're just stealing back something that was already stolen from us in the first place. Anime is no more original than western cartoons.


There's the story. The Japanese want to do the Walt Disney and Warner Brothers. But, unlike their role models, they didn't have a lot of money. From this budget of the Japanese, anime was born. The rest is history.

So why is the Americans (not quite WB and Disney) doing the cheap anime style, even if they outsourced it? Money. They found out it was cheaper than theirs, so they can make more money. They have also found other ways to make money in these tough times. That's off topic.
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...also, mcDuffies already mentioned the French part.

Postby Cope on Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:09 pm

Killbert-Robby wrote:
DancingChaos wrote:If this topic was already mentioned, I'm sorry.

Have you noticed???!!! America is stealing anime! Cartoons are gradually getting more and more sweatdrops!!! And then cartoons are getting those big eyes... The worst is 'totally spies'... It's so obvious.

Totally Spies is *French*

pssst! I don't think Dancing Chaos is here anymore.
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Re: ...also, mcDuffies already mentioned the French part.

Postby Killbert-Robby on Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:39 am

Cope wrote:
Killbert-Robby wrote:
DancingChaos wrote:If this topic was already mentioned, I'm sorry.

Have you noticed???!!! America is stealing anime! Cartoons are gradually getting more and more sweatdrops!!! And then cartoons are getting those big eyes... The worst is 'totally spies'... It's so obvious.

Totally Spies is *French*

pssst! I don't think Dancing Chaos is here anymore.


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Re: Okay... America isn't being original.

Postby Risky on Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:05 pm

So's the word Anime, so... Who is Stealing From Who?
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Re: Okay... America isn't being original.

Postby Alias Pseudonym on Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:20 pm

I don't care very much about the visual style, so what attracts me most about anime is the fact that Japan is more open minded about what you can make a cartoon about. So you get things like Tokyo Magnitude 8.0, Paranoia Agent, Welcome to the NHK and Serial Experiments Lain. Western cartoons tend to either be comedy or designed to appeal to children, and you could never get away with something like Lain. But Lain actually works best in an animated format, because that way they didn't have to be limited to the way things actually look in reality, and instead could use the visuals for metaphors.

In conclusion, I don't really care what the west wants to do with the visual style of anime. Unless they suddenly start churning out animated psychological dramas, (or animated whatever the heck Lain is) in which case, yay.

On a related note, I liked Avatar and Teen Titans. Totally Spies and all of its nauseatingly-coloured cousins can burn and die. Seriously, who picked those colours? They burn my eyes.

Incidentally, I'm not talking about manga. Just anime. The anime I listed off are original, original, based on a novel and based on a video game respectively. Manga tends to have a narrower subject matter and a specific story-telling style, and I've found that most of my favourite anime aren't actually based on manga.

Long live psychological drama.
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Re: Okay... America isn't being original.

Postby Shadow Crystal Mage on Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:17 pm

Alias Pseudonym wrote:
Long live psychological drama.


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