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I actually agree with the chihuahua. Using Mom's boobies for a study on how they look is Off Limits (Though of course it's perfectly fine to draw them as part of a large picture--putting that off limits would be silly, and Mom would probably be flattered to get a portrait of herself anyway). That's just asking for incest jokes. Even your subconscious would start making fun of you. :P Plus, why use your mom's when google, irc pervos or mv can give you good material?

Also, Link, boobies look as much like w's as they do oo's--which is to say, they don't really look like either (Not that I'm an expert breast-drawer myself, but whatever).

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EvilChihuahua wrote: Simple fact is, if I'm gonna draw a set of bre4sts, then I'm not gonna use someone I'm related to for source material.
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The poor fellow is stuck with an internet filter thingy which, tragically, he must use "leet" to circumvent. Though, sideways, breasts are kind of like fours. Or Ps. Clearly.

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What the hell sort of filter cuts out stuff you actually have on your body? Aaaagh, madness.
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green avenger review up.
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Green you say? Hmmm... I have a man on the inside redoing the webpage, but I assure you it remains green.

And thank you for being practically the first reviewer who is man enough not to request that I do a story on the origins of The Green Avenger. (Hint: She was bitten by a radioactive avenge.)

As for the new shading style, most of the flatness and jaggedyness is due to the cutting of the corners.. Hopefully I'll minimize that by changing to MF updating...
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I hate to interrupt the breasts, but my review of Fainting Spells is up.
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I have posted a very long crit of green avenger.
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Thanks for the review, Ryuko. I'd say that you're the only person in the universe who thinks the comic's moving too quickly, but I think the issue is not so much one of page-numbers-type-pacing as it is one of things happening without explanations. I'll try to make my weird imaginings a little clearer; you're certainly not the first one to say "Eh...?".

My habitual technique for distinguishing foreground from back is to take out a big brush and do a sort of outline of things in the foreground, but looking back, it's pretty shoddy. I'll see about increasing my brush size for the foreground, and shrinking it more for the back instead of just covering my laziness in the last stages of inking. XD

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Sorry that took so long, kellhound. Also, I maintain I bookmarked the comic, so I guess 3rd run through the archives was the charm!
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I'm glad you didn't go into the website too much since I mentioned in the cornstalker forum I was giving it a serious face lift.

Just curious, besides the emo comment when were words misused in your opinion?
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I'll go back through, probably tomorrow, and see if i can scope out those other things I mentioned for you.

Mon Ami, and Lego, thank you for the reviews. Both have helped me tremendously. Lego for helping me realize that I have a style that screams "Tdot" and Ami for helping me realize the importance of panel composition.

The two guys fighting the undead in the last part, Ami, are Thanatir and Ramadeur. Ramadeur's name isn't mentioned, but Thanatir is referred to directly. I can understand the mixup though. I'm still working on making people look unique. Thanks! :D
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TdotOdot2k wrote:I'll go back through, probably tomorrow, and see if i can scope out those other things I mentioned for you.
Awesome. And I'm glad you'll be reading it now. 8-) Makes me all happy inside. Also, just something to keep in mind might not be misused, might just because my ......... interesting way for spelling things.
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My review for Aldus Maycombe is up (page 2). And I'm embarassed that I couldn't find anything real to bitch about : P

(edit) Ah, looks like Ryuko beat me to it. Anyway, I have to disagree about the pacing. I think the story is going rather slowly. But that doesn't bother me, it matches the dreamlike feel of the art, I don't mind taking my time to get to know Aldus. Either way, I don't find it hard to follow at all.

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Thanks for the review, Kell. I know I have issues with backgrounds... Until my comic started I never drew them. I'm trying to get better, and use less gradient and random fill backgrounds, and I feel like I've been succeeding, but it's a gradual process. (sigh) A painful gradual process.

I kind of wanted you to clarify what you meant by not caring if one of my characters died. I feel it's kind of moot because it's not really that kind of story, but what exactly did you mean by that? You're not personally invested into the characters at all? Since I feel it's sort of a character-driven comic, I'm wondering what kept you reading the comic aside from the obligation to do the review? I mean, I agree, a character death wouldn't really fit with the theme of my story, but I'm not sure that's what you were getting at. Do you have any ideas of how to engage the reader more with my characters?

Thanks for the compliments and the constructive criticism.

Biev: I just feel like it's all rushing by because there's been comparatively little time for character development and so many things have come by surprise.
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CSchaefer, thanks a lot for the review!

I do plan to print it as a book eventually. You're right, it will definitely read better. You're right about the story being there to justify the art, too. This is more of a picture book than it is a comic.

I'll try to get the cursive lettering to be clearer, I thought it was a little blurry, too. Maybe if I use a really thin pen.

Ah, and thanks for the kick in the butt to get the characters section up. I wanted to take it down completely, but TRI ordered me not to : P So I guess I better start fixing it up right now, since I have free time for once.

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*looks over his review*

Oof, website problems I didn't even know I had. Serves me right for building my site entirely in Dreamweaver; I'll need to test more thoroughly in the future.

Also, that background tip? SO MUCH WIN. I spent hours trying to figure that out, which possibly goes to show that I don't have the faintest clue how to search for HTML information.

Thank you very much, Bruk. :D
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Ryuko wrote: I kind of wanted you to clarify what you meant by not caring if one of my characters died. I feel it's kind of moot because it's not really that kind of story, but what exactly did you mean by that? You're not personally invested into the characters at all? Since I feel it's sort of a character-driven comic, I'm wondering what kept you reading the comic aside from the obligation to do the review? I mean, I agree, a character death wouldn't really fit with the theme of my story, but I'm not sure that's what you were getting at. Do you have any ideas of how to engage the reader more with my characters?

Thanks for the compliments and the constructive criticism.
Okay me not caring if your character lives of dies, means that in a lot of tv shows, movies, and books the writer/director/whoever could probably get the person to cry if they killed a character. They make the character seem real enough that when they die you feel like a real person died or at least feel sad because of how the characters are reacting. So yeah not personally invested.

What kept me reader was it's a fun comic. It's light and enjoy enjoy. It's hard to explain. But it's best comparison I can think of is the Hellboy movie verse the Spiderman movie. The Hellboy movie is basically: See Hellboy. See Hellboy says a whitty line. See Hellboy fight nazis. For the most part everyone I talked agrees that the Hellboy movie is fun and enjoyable and it's down part where the part that didn't focus on being fun/badass like the romance between Hellboy and Liz (but even there was approched in a fun way so while the down part of the movie it lead to some good parts). Now the Spiderman movie has much much more to it than the Hellboy movie. And you watch it for different reasons. He has all this inner conflict and emotional stuff going on while he's fighting the goblin.

As for getting people to care about your characters much, it's a hard thing to do without completely changing the theme of the comic. But maybe putting in some inner conflict or drama. That doesn't nessacary mean angst it up. To do that and keep with the feel of the comic I'd maybe recommend renting 3rd season on of Buffy and watching the romance scenes between Xander and Anya. They are scene that manage to show a lot character depth but the dialog and character actions can't help but make you laugh. If you've never scene Buffy one of the first scene with these two alone involves Anya randomly presenting herself naked to Xander and saying all the factual reasons the two of them should have sex. It takes a bit of practice and but you can still be funny and show character depth at the same time.

Edit: It also might be that's I'm an unfeeling emotionally retarded ice bitch so it's extra to get me to care about characters.
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Oh, actually..

CSchaefer, do you mind if I post your review on my forum? Since it's the first proper critique I've gotten I think maybe my readers might like to see it so they can add their 2 cents.

And Keffria, I'd like to post the one I wrote for you on the Tinkinators forum which is a place where we review and recommend comics (uh when we're not running around acting silly), what do you say? You might pick up a few new readers.

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Bugger me dead. What the hell happened in here? I leave home this morning, come back at a reasonable hour after work, and there's six or seven pages of, let's be fair and honest here, basically nothing, to sift through!

Fair dinkum, when you fellers want to chew the fat over nothing in particular, you're world beaters!

Now that I've finally read through this thread...I'll get to reading the review Doublemint said she'd posted up way back on page three...

After all this, I hope it's generally nice. ;)
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